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TedJustice
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1324 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 20:20:28
November 28 2011 20:19 GMT
#36261
On November 29 2011 04:00 Condor Hero wrote:
1) They will never remove smart fire tanks. Browder said he will never make a change that "dumbs" down the AI such as units clumping together to produce balls etc.

Which is kind of silly because ball armies aren't realistic at all. If anything, if they want smart AI, armies should move in realistic formations like in most RTS's. Sure it wouldn't be starcrafty, but neither are army balls.

Also I hope we can get Artosis' opinions on the TSL changes, since he's the most familiar with the korean teams and their operations and whatnot.
rfoster
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1005 Posts
November 28 2011 20:20 GMT
#36262
Ugh I cant stand the constant complaints about one race being too weak. It was dumb when protoss were saying it a month or two ago, and it is dumb now that apparently Terran are complaining. But I have not heard any top level Terran complain so where is this coming from all of a sudden.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
November 28 2011 20:25 GMT
#36263
Maybe worth mentioning during the next show that Gus is, in fact, a scum bag? You guys didn't want to speak about it "until the facts come out" last time, but by this point they have.
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
November 28 2011 20:26 GMT
#36264
DeMusliM is in the U.K right now, so i doubt he will be at SOTG.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
November 28 2011 20:46 GMT
#36265
On November 29 2011 05:25 Jibba wrote:
Maybe worth mentioning during the next show that Gus is, in fact, a scum bag? You guys didn't want to speak about it "until the facts come out" last time, but by this point they have.

You shouldn't get your hopes up with them giving it any airtime.
Remember this is a show that started out with one of the strengths being pro players or people deep in the esports scene sharing their opinions and wisdoms that spectators just don't have.
I have no idea what they can say about the whole Gus thing that hasn't already been said or an average TL user can't also say.
Sure it might feel good but it's a shitty reason for that to be on the show (especially since the show is now MLG property and MLG is rivals with IPL).
Soleron
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1324 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 20:48:46
November 28 2011 20:48 GMT
#36266
On November 29 2011 05:25 Jibba wrote:
Maybe worth mentioning during the next show that Gus is, in fact, a scum bag? You guys didn't want to speak about it "until the facts come out" last time, but by this point they have.


Read Tyler's post in this thread on this subject.
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 23:22:35
November 28 2011 23:22 GMT
#36267
On November 29 2011 03:51 0neder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 03:21 Whitewing wrote:
On November 28 2011 14:59 0neder wrote:
I know we can't make any assessments now, because Terran's haven't had a chance to re-adapt to the metagame, but if they ever buff terran, it better not be bio...how about restoring the now impotent seige tank to its former glory?


Buffing the siege tank would break TvZ.

Not if you removed combat shield or smart firing tanks, or...etc. There are lots of ways to improve current TvX from a spectator's point of view.

I think we also forget that Blizzard's flawed maps have catalyzed lots of perceive balance issues that aren't there. Sure 60 dmg tanks were imba on the early 2010 maps that were nothing but chokes. What if some ladder maps actually had carrier micro zones or really open areas like tal-darim? Then, they'd be more viable. Then, buffed tanks become less of a problem. Etc...


They will never remove smart fire tanks, they don't want to dumb down the AI. Carriers in their current design literally cannot be micro'd like that: the interceptors fly back to the carrier immediately when you try to pull them away. TvZ is already really closely balanced with marine/tank vs. muta/ling/bling (or infestors in place of mutas). If you buff the tanks, Terran is going to annihilate zergs left and right.

Not needing +1 mech weapons to one shot zerglings with +1 armor would make terran initial pushes stronger, among other things.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
November 29 2011 00:09 GMT
#36268
You know how SotG does questions at the end of the show? Where do you send these questions in? And when? During the week or during the show?
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NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
November 29 2011 00:14 GMT
#36269
On November 29 2011 09:09 KevinIX wrote:
You know how SotG does questions at the end of the show? Where do you send these questions in? And when? During the week or during the show?

If I'm not mistaken, you tweet them to JP (@itmejp) during the show. If it's a good one, he might pick it.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
ZorBa.G
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia279 Posts
November 29 2011 00:17 GMT
#36270
How about getting a Terran on SOTG for once?
FatkiddsLag
Profile Joined May 2010
United States413 Posts
November 29 2011 00:21 GMT
#36271
even though i feel the balance of the game if quite good at the moment, i would note that terran has always had and still has a prominent spot in the gsl finals.
Kharnage
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia920 Posts
November 29 2011 00:25 GMT
#36272
On November 29 2011 09:17 ZorBa.G wrote:
How about getting a Terran on SOTG for once?


Maybe Drewbie would be good to get on?

Everyone would love to hear a Terran perspective, especially now that the reign of terran "seems" to be over.
Dumboprime
Profile Joined March 2011
985 Posts
November 29 2011 00:42 GMT
#36273
Is there a SOTG tonight?
FoeHamr
Profile Joined December 2010
United States489 Posts
November 29 2011 00:43 GMT
#36274
On November 29 2011 09:42 Dumboprime wrote:
Is there a SOTG tonight?

idk is it Tuesday?
I got 99 problems and a Terran ain't one
Kharnage
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia920 Posts
November 29 2011 00:53 GMT
#36275
On November 29 2011 09:43 FoeHamr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 09:42 Dumboprime wrote:
Is there a SOTG tonight?

idk is it Tuesday?


It's Tuesday here. What day is it there?
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
November 29 2011 00:54 GMT
#36276
On November 29 2011 09:53 Kharnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 09:43 FoeHamr wrote:
On November 29 2011 09:42 Dumboprime wrote:
Is there a SOTG tonight?

idk is it Tuesday?


It's Tuesday here. What day is it there?

still monday in us
CoolSea
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States236 Posts
November 29 2011 00:55 GMT
#36277
It's Monday in the States. SOTG will most likely be on tomorrow unless they're skipping this week for whatever reason.
MasterKush
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom568 Posts
November 29 2011 01:05 GMT
#36278
On November 29 2011 05:26 Noocta wrote:
DeMusliM is in the U.K right now, so i doubt he will be at SOTG.


Hmm, I'm sure he could wake up for it and go back to bed after if he really wanted too. After all, Artosis is frequently on it nowadays and the time difference must be just as crazy for him in KR as it is for us brits.
"Because, maybe, unlike what every whining kid on the internet thinks, terran actually isn't the easiest race? Shocking, I know." - Liquid`Jinro
nGBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
United States914 Posts
November 29 2011 01:11 GMT
#36279
On November 29 2011 10:05 MasterKush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 05:26 Noocta wrote:
DeMusliM is in the U.K right now, so i doubt he will be at SOTG.


Hmm, I'm sure he could wake up for it and go back to bed after if he really wanted too. After all, Artosis is frequently on it nowadays and the time difference must be just as crazy for him in KR as it is for us brits.


The time its on in the US is like afternoon Korea iirc. It's like Noon-1pm when it starts I believe.
Engore
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1916 Posts
November 29 2011 01:22 GMT
#36280
On November 12 2011 17:08 MorroW wrote:
good episode
i wish you talked more about sc2 strategy, its the most interesting parts imo


QFT I hope Day9 is on this week and has some strat talk. If he isn't, Artosis best bring some in.
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