EPTthat being said, i don't like the fact that they keep talking about irrelevant stuff like day9's comic collection, or being hydrated from redbull or some crap. JP needs to tighten up the show
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JimSocks
United States968 Posts
that being said, i don't like the fact that they keep talking about irrelevant stuff like day9's comic collection, or being hydrated from redbull or some crap. JP needs to tighten up the show | ||
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Cybren
United States206 Posts
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Demonace34
United States2493 Posts
On October 06 2011 01:59 Kevan wrote: I like pretentious people who think they are intelligent and then they make generalizing comments about things they obviously don´t know much about. Anyone who knows when the MP3 will be up? I'm guessing this is about the other guy who I was responding to? Or maybe I'm trying to oversimplify MMA? I actually don't know much about it but I do know that most fighters have unique styles and excel in different areas of their "game". If I did mess up my example then I'm sorry. | ||
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Klonere
Ireland4123 Posts
On October 06 2011 02:02 JimSocks wrote: world series of poker on espn did explode poker bro, everybody i know who's into poker now still talk about moneymaker. that being said, i don't like the fact that they keep talking about irrelevant stuff like day9's comic collection, or being hydrated from redbull or some crap. JP needs to tighten up the show thats funny because a lot of other people were complaining about how stiff the show has become with the lack of "banter" and what not and that JP was being too strict as a host. different strokes. | ||
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Darksoldierr
Hungary2013 Posts
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blagoonga123
United States2068 Posts
On October 06 2011 01:35 Cyrak wrote: The confluence of its introduction into popular culture, the televised WPT and the introduction of online poker were all arguably equally important. That's just for poker. Let's compare it to starcraft now. Despite how difficult it is to play well, poker is very easy to understand. The drama and tension surrounding poker are easy to quantify (you can see the cash on the table!). It's easy to understand which player is 'winning' and what they are playing for. It is simple yet dramatic and interesting for even casual observers due to the ease of understanding what is going on. Starcraft is complicated, difficult to assess and understand even for people who have played it their entire lives and has no pop culture appeal because it's played by a bunch of nerdy kids. There I fixed your post to make you seem like less of a pretentious douchebag. | ||
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Kevan
Sweden2303 Posts
On October 06 2011 02:03 Demonace34 wrote: I'm guessing this is about the other guy who I was responding to? Or maybe I'm trying to oversimplify MMA? I actually don't know much about it but I do know that most fighters have unique styles and excel in different areas of their "game". If I did mess up my example then I'm sorry. No I meant the other guy.  I agree with what you wrote. | ||
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TORTOISE
United States515 Posts
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Bulkers
Poland509 Posts
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
On October 06 2011 01:35 Cyrak wrote: This is why I hate posting on forums infested with teenagers and college dropouts. Can you not parse a sentence? This assertion implies that there weren't a myriad of factors equally important to TV that contributed to the "poker boom". The confluence of its introduction into popular culture, the televised WPT and the introduction of online poker were all arguably equally important. That's just for poker. Let's compare it to starcraft now. Despite how difficult it is to play well, poker is very easy to understand. The drama and tension surrounding poker are easy to quantify (you can see the cash on the table!). It's easy to understand which player is 'winning' and what they are playing for. It is simple yet dramatic and interesting for even casual observers due to the ease of understanding what is going on. Starcraft is complicated, difficult to assess and understand even for people who have played it their entire lives and has no pop culture appeal because it's played by a bunch of nerdy kids. Asserting that the only difference between SC2 blowing up and Poker is that one was put on TV is a hilarious oversimplification and displays a level of real-world analytical ability that I've come to expect from the simpletons of the SC2 community. yeah dude calm down were on an internet forum not at university of course we all want starcraft to grow because were the community of that AWESOME GAME on your points i think it is quite true what riksen said about poker becoming much more popular because it was put on tv ( noone can argue about that i think) also i dont think starcraft is that hard to get into (watching and kinda understanding whats going on) its just as soccer or something like that 2 parties battle it out and in the end you have a clear score determining who won EDIT: also : why would you bash the community on a community sit thats really quite dumb | ||
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Ranir
413 Posts
 now my way to school is boring. | ||
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Tapppi
Finland70 Posts
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NoobSkills
United States1603 Posts
On October 06 2011 02:12 Tapppi wrote: Well.. I hate to see this go on MLG.tv but guess theres nothing to do.. Podcast only is decent anyways, if it gets uploaded.. which i hope it does, or it screws up the whole idea of the show for europeans.. Yes, I know the show devalues if the VOD/MP3 is uploaded an extra day after than the actual cast. I don't know how you can live for that extra day. On October 06 2011 02:10 Ranir wrote: JP we need the audio! normally I have to go to sleep during the show but while I'm taking the bus/metro I'm listening to sotg! now my way to school is boring.Now you have something to listen to on Thursday when going to school. Enjoy my logic. Edit: I do agree that MLG as far as their site is concerned is a waste of space. | ||
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templar rage
United States2509 Posts
On October 06 2011 01:35 Cyrak wrote: This is why I hate posting on forums infested with teenagers and college dropouts. Can you not parse a sentence? This assertion implies that there weren't a myriad of factors equally important to TV that contributed to the "poker boom". The confluence of its introduction into popular culture, the televised WPT and the introduction of online poker were all arguably equally important. That's just for poker. Let's compare it to starcraft now. Despite how difficult it is to play well, poker is very easy to understand. The drama and tension surrounding poker are easy to quantify (you can see the cash on the table!). It's easy to understand which player is 'winning' and what they are playing for. It is simple yet dramatic and interesting for even casual observers due to the ease of understanding what is going on. Starcraft is complicated, difficult to assess and understand even for people who have played it their entire lives and has no pop culture appeal because it's played by a bunch of nerdy kids. Asserting that the only difference between SC2 blowing up and Poker is that one was put on TV is a hilarious oversimplification and displays a level of real-world analytical ability that I've come to expect from the simpletons of the SC2 community. Well, since you admit that you don't play or like poker, I'll assume you're fairly ignorant of it. There is a reason the poker boom was referred to as the "Moneymaker effect". Watching him (an amateur) win the WSOP main event on TV vs a pro is pretty much unanimously agreed upon as the single biggest catalyst for the poker boom. I don't think it's a coincidence that the main event was won pretty much exclusively by amateurs for the next several years, and then young online pros the last few (who were probably members of the boom themselves). I very much doubt poker would be where it was today without that original broadcast in 2003. I agree with your points about viewability, to an extent. I think Starcraft can be viewed similarly to mainstream sports like baseball, football (both kinds), etc. Tbh, do many people watch sports and really even bother with the underlying strategy? I don't. I mean, I know it's there, and I even know a little about it, but I don't really care about it. I feel like a lot of people can't really make that leap with Starcraft because they're also players. As such, you can't really separate the strategy, but that's not a bad thing anyway. Knowing what's going on enhances the viewing experience for me in Starcraft, but at the same time, it doesn't detract for me at all in other sports where I'm much less knowledgeable. I'd love to hear opinions on the game of people who watched the game without playing. I don't think I ever really had that experience with SC2, so I can't really pass judgment. | ||
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Sockso
United States57 Posts
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Elefanto
Switzerland3584 Posts
Keep it up! | ||
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
3 hours later nothing there >.> | ||
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thee telescopes
321 Posts
On October 06 2011 02:06 Bulkers wrote: Now we even dont have mp3, JP McFail have sold SotG to MLG... thats all We should request a full refund. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 06 2011 01:35 Cyrak wrote: This is why I hate posting on forums infested with teenagers and college dropouts. Can you not parse a sentence? This assertion implies that there weren't a myriad of factors equally important to TV that contributed to the "poker boom". Yet you keep posting. And you attempt to sound like a mature adult, but miss the mark. From someone who watches Starcraft with people who don't play quite often, I can tell you that you are totally incorrect. My friends and girl-friend do not care about builds, unit cost or the abilities of each unit. They understand that the guy with more stuff is winning, that taking an early expansion is risky and banelings are awesome when they explode. What they don't get, the casters take care of. You are correct on one fact though, they do care about the drama and the tension. They know Idra, HUK and all the other characters in the community. They know that HUK makes hearts with waypoints in the opening and has excellent control. They cheer for MKP beause of how emotional he is. Football is complicated, ask anyone who has a fantasy football team. That doesn't stop it from being the one of the most popular sports in the US. Starcraft can find its place on TV too. Why? Because there was room for poker and national spelling-Bs. | ||
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Fadetowhite
Korea (South)302 Posts
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