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yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
October 05 2011 12:28 GMT
#33001
On October 05 2011 18:04 ragingfungus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 17:38 Hall0wed wrote:
On October 05 2011 15:51 jalstar wrote:
On October 05 2011 15:44 ketomai wrote:
On October 05 2011 15:37 nvs. wrote:
On October 05 2011 15:28 Hall0wed wrote:
On October 05 2011 15:21 nvs. wrote:
and has much fewer variables and depth than SC.


omg. this might be the most ignorant statement ever. there are 500 page books on one variation of one opening.


If you REALLY wanted to you could write a 500 page book on 1 SC opening... I think.

Also post a link to said book you speak of, sounds quite exaggerated.


http://www.amazon.com/Chess-Openings-White-Explained-Winning/dp/1889323209/ref=sr_1_29?ie=UTF8&qid=1317796568&sr=8-29

500+ page book on one white opening (e4)


I could probably write a shit load on the possibilities after 15 hatch 16 pool too..-.-.

What Artosis is saying is that starcraft involves another factor, and that's REAL TIME. Chess can be simplified to a few moves, starcraft's moves are pretty much nearly infinite, so theoretically, it has the potential to be much, much deeper and more complex.

Try thinking how one would "solve" chess (similar to how people have solved checkers), then think about how one would "solve" starcraft.


Neither can be solved, there are more possible chess games than atoms in the observable universe.


If you are going to throw random crap like that around atleast provide a link to where you get this information. -_-

I don't care if this is true or not I just want a link because this sounds like there should be an interesting article to read out there.


It's only true because a chess game can literally go on forever. So the amount of games is infinite. Realistic games that someone would actually play and not involve people running in circles forever with pieces and it's nowhere near true.


It's not infinite. It's 10^120. Number of atoms in the observable universe is 10^80.
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yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
October 05 2011 12:41 GMT
#33002
On October 05 2011 20:10 KadaverBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 19:01 iRaYP wrote:
Kinda annoyed the mp3 or vods dont seem to be up yet , if they want to host it on mlg.tv fine, if they want to split it into 5 parts to be able to host it on mlg.tv fine but atleast get it up quickly




JP stated on his twitter that he was super tired and was gonna upload the MP3 and Vod after he got some sleep.

It has nothing to do with MLG.


Well I think it has something to do with MLG, since they've chosen to host it there (for ad revenue, no doubt). Blip uploading seems to be much less hassle, and JTV vods are near-instantaneous.

I'm not saying I disapprove of them making money off their own intellectual property, but I think it's disingenuous to pretend the new method isn't slower.
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
Pipeline
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1673 Posts
October 05 2011 12:49 GMT
#33003
SOTG MP3 page down/unavailable makes me a sad panda!
duartesito
Profile Joined March 2010
Dominican Republic32 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 13:04:18
October 05 2011 13:02 GMT
#33004
i get that the VOD is not ready, but where is my MP3!! >

Edit: No show on October 4, WTF!? why is this not on the OP or the blog?
Im just out buying soy souce
zocktol
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1928 Posts
October 05 2011 13:07 GMT
#33005
What you people do not realize is, that JP withholding the MP3 because of sleep is just a elaborate ruse. This actually is the next wave of the SotG crew trolling the EU community.

Think about it, the people in the US can just watch SotG when it is live, europeans have to wait for the VOD or the MP3.

Well played JP, well played.

+ Show Spoiler +
If you take this seriously, please rethink. This post is actually not meant to be taken seriously.
Furycrab
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada456 Posts
October 05 2011 13:14 GMT
#33006
On October 05 2011 22:07 zocktol wrote:
What you people do not realize is, that JP withholding the MP3 because of sleep is just a elaborate ruse. This actually is the next wave of the SotG crew trolling the EU community.

Think about it, the people in the US can just watch SotG when it is live, europeans have to wait for the VOD or the MP3.

Well played JP, well played.

+ Show Spoiler +
If you take this seriously, please rethink. This post is actually not meant to be taken seriously.


I know this is more or less a joke, but I'm in NA and SOTG is really kinda late for most people here except the west coast. I still wait for the MP3 on wednesday mornings like all of you.
Too tired to come up with something witty.
jarod
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania766 Posts
October 05 2011 13:16 GMT
#33007
great show!
Maru | Life | herO
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
October 05 2011 13:53 GMT
#33008
also awaiting mp3 ~_~
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
October 05 2011 13:54 GMT
#33009
I think someone else has to record their screen in the future when they're watching SOTG so they can release an unofficial VOD at a decent time. JP's EU hate is seriously getting out of hand, this isn't funny at all anymore...
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3DGlaDOS
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany607 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 13:57:14
October 05 2011 13:56 GMT
#33010
On October 05 2011 22:54 Choboo wrote:
I think someone else has to record their screen in the future when they're watching SOTG so they can release an unofficial VOD at a decent time. JP's EU hate is seriously getting out of hand, this isn't funny at all anymore...

I normally just listen to the show, not reading the thread. I didn't think people seriously think that way o.O
Hello Sir, do you have a minute for atheism?
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
October 05 2011 13:57 GMT
#33011
On October 05 2011 22:54 Choboo wrote:
I think someone else has to record their screen in the future when they're watching SOTG so they can release an unofficial VOD at a decent time. JP's EU hate is seriously getting out of hand, this isn't funny at all anymore...


I can't tell if you are serious or not, and it makes me sad
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
October 05 2011 13:57 GMT
#33012
On October 05 2011 22:54 Choboo wrote:
I think someone else has to record their screen in the future when they're watching SOTG so they can release an unofficial VOD at a decent time. JP's EU hate is seriously getting out of hand, this isn't funny at all anymore...

Can't tell if troll.. or just another idiot on the internet.
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
October 05 2011 14:00 GMT
#33013
On October 05 2011 22:57 Megatronn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 22:54 Choboo wrote:
I think someone else has to record their screen in the future when they're watching SOTG so they can release an unofficial VOD at a decent time. JP's EU hate is seriously getting out of hand, this isn't funny at all anymore...

Can't tell if troll.. or just another idiot on the internet.



All of the above
Darksteel
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland319 Posts
October 05 2011 14:13 GMT
#33014
On October 05 2011 23:00 magnaflow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 22:57 Megatronn wrote:
On October 05 2011 22:54 Choboo wrote:
I think someone else has to record their screen in the future when they're watching SOTG so they can release an unofficial VOD at a decent time. JP's EU hate is seriously getting out of hand, this isn't funny at all anymore...

Can't tell if troll.. or just another idiot on the internet.



All of the above


First they joke about hating europe, last week they didn't give us VOD, now they don't even give us MP3 ! Soon they will hold WhiteRa as hostage and require payments for SOTG !
3DGlaDOS
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany607 Posts
October 05 2011 14:21 GMT
#33015
On October 05 2011 23:13 Darksteel wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 05 2011 23:00 magnaflow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 22:57 Megatronn wrote:
On October 05 2011 22:54 Choboo wrote:
I think someone else has to record their screen in the future when they're watching SOTG so they can release an unofficial VOD at a decent time. JP's EU hate is seriously getting out of hand, this isn't funny at all anymore...

Can't tell if troll.. or just another idiot on the internet.



All of the above


First they joke about hating europe, last week they didn't give us VOD, now they don't even give us MP3 ! Soon they will hold WhiteRa as hostage and require payments for SOTG !

He will free himself with speshul taktiks!
Hello Sir, do you have a minute for atheism?
TORTOISE
Profile Joined December 2010
United States515 Posts
October 05 2011 14:40 GMT
#33016
I want my MP3
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 14:41:43
October 05 2011 14:41 GMT
#33017
Was the episode good ?
Well, going to watch it now anyway xD
edit : oh, no mp3 yet TT
Madera
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
October 05 2011 14:45 GMT
#33018
I'm waiting eagerly for the MP3!
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
October 05 2011 14:47 GMT
#33019
On October 05 2011 23:41 MrCon wrote:
Was the episode good ?
Well, going to watch it now anyway xD
edit : oh, no mp3 yet TT


Episode was amazing
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
legatus legionis
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands559 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 14:55:47
October 05 2011 14:53 GMT
#33020
What Choboo said is pretty much similar to how "they troll EU." It's a tiny truth spun around and exaggerated to be provocative. I don't mean anything bad with that, I love the jokes they make with Europe and I hope they continue to do so. For Choboo, I really don't think saying it like that has any real meaning other than to take a tiny stab to show how much he cares while doing it in a bit of a playful manner so it isn't that bad.
I'd be lying if I said I am more bothered by his comment than the stream of irrelevant clutter that follows.

--

On the State of the Game blog I noticed there is a new news post.
http://sotg-sc2.blogspot.com/
You will have to read it for yourself but I need to comment on that. Because I dislike it a lot. I can understand that you want to move the distribution platform to mlg.tv. I really don't care as long as releases stay timely and the player isn't garbage.

What I do mind is that you would actually explain to us any technical details about what is going on. Reason being, the only purpose they serve is to create sympathy (they are written like that) for your side of the situation that has occurred. And I just don't think that's a fair thing to do.
If you "plan" on changing the distribution you can actually plan it in advance before making a change. For this there has been a lot of time now and in the future where you can do them simultaneously. And when it works, that's the moment where you disable the blip.tv and the jtv and you will know how the process will go for the next week. I don't think it's unreasonable at all to expect such a method of operation and that is exactly why I don't like to hear what is happening, because you didn't plan like that, they have become "a problem".

Another note to make is that when you mention a 100GB file in a lossless file, I wonder what benefit that brings. I'm guessing it will allow for 16GB 1080p VODs right? But does anyone care about that? Isn't it much more valuable to limit it to 720p, since it's practically the same, because you get so much more value in terms of efficiency, as can been seen now. The small webcam windows aren't interesting or spectacular enough to warrant such excessive quality. They have been serving emotions and interactions perfectly fine since it's inception.
I was also under the impression that you encode it yourself. It will be like 3-4GB for a 3 hour show and you can have it encode and upload 247 while you sleep. Obviously I don't know if that is feasible and if it isn't you can easily dismiss it but wouldn't it be better if it was feasible? Can it then not be made feasible?

I know this will come over incredibly bitchy to many of you and even though I have been listening and re-listening to JP podcasts since 2008 starting with Arenacast. It is my concern for the future that I feel the need and value to actually write this down. Things like one person having to edit and upload everything makes it limited and creates these kind of queues. Then how will they ever be avoided or sidestepped? It can give the impression it might not.

As a closing, I realize some parts are in reality just unfair and misplaced from me. I hope you can see past them and pick out anything you think is tangible for improvement. Because that has been the only thing I've been trying to aim at with this text.

I'll leave it to a psychologist to analyze why I've gotten in such an emotional state I would post something so seemingly misguided like this.

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