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On September 29 2011 04:06 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
i have to agree with xsebt here. im active in both forums and the bw section rarely talks about sc2...and if you do expect to get hate comments.
The funny thing is, this whole discussion started off with the critique that Sean always talks about BW on the show primarily about SC2. I'm up for taking what we can from BW (I played back in the day) and relating it but let's not go overboard and jump on our high horses for the guy asking Day9 to provide more insight in SC2 terms.
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On September 29 2011 04:17 mordek wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 04:06 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
i have to agree with xsebt here. im active in both forums and the bw section rarely talks about sc2...and if you do expect to get hate comments.
The funny thing is, this whole discussion started off with the critique that Sean always talks about BW on the show primarily about SC2. I'm up for taking what we can from BW (I played back in the day) and relating it but let's not go overboard and jump on our high horses for the guy asking Day9 to provide more insight in SC2 terms.
I have to admit I really enjoy it when they talk about bw. Simply because their bw talk almost always consists of hilarious / funny anecdotes (which, despite beeing a semi-active follower of bw for almost 10 years now, I oftentimes missed), and as much as I like to watch/listen to SOTG because of SC2 pro discussion, I primarily like it because of a high entertainment value, and those bw tidbits do enjoy me quite a lot. And the focus on the show still is SC2, its not like bw would make such a big part of the show.
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Due to the magic of technology, the VOD will be up later today. Love it when encodes fail.
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On September 29 2011 02:42 itmeJP wrote:
You people are so needy!
The video was 94gb which has to be transferred from the Tricaster to an external HD, copied over again to a new PC, converted to mp4, and then uploaded. It takes time. Sorry for wanting to sleep a couple hours. It'll be finished processing within the hour I've been told.
you should be more than sorry for sleeping wow ill let itm slide......................................because you jp <3
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On September 29 2011 04:38 itmeJP wrote:
Due to the magic of technology, the VOD will be up later today. Love it when encodes fail.
Vehicle of ESPORTS, can't do anything about it
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On September 29 2011 04:16 ForeverAzerG wrote:
this is getting annoying wheres the vod >(
You sure are getting annoying.
On September 29 2011 02:42 itmeJP wrote:
You people are so needy!
The video was 94gb which has to be transferred from the Tricaster to an external HD, copied over again to a new PC, converted to mp4, and then uploaded. It takes time. Sorry for wanting to sleep a couple hours. It'll be finished processing within the hour I've been told.
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failing technology is killing esports!
btw thanks JP! <3
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Thanks JP 
I am eagerly awaiting the VOD <3
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On September 29 2011 04:38 itmeJP wrote:
Due to the magic of technology, the VOD will be up later today. Love it when encodes fail.
You should just do a tweet about it and don't bother answer to the impatients on TL^^. Many thanks for what you're doing for us JP.
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On September 29 2011 04:46 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 04:16 ForeverAzerG wrote:
this is getting annoying wheres the vod >( You sure are getting annoying. Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 02:42 itmeJP wrote:
You people are so needy!
The video was 94gb which has to be transferred from the Tricaster to an external HD, copied over again to a new PC, converted to mp4, and then uploaded. It takes time. Sorry for wanting to sleep a couple hours. It'll be finished processing within the hour I've been told.
your annoying trying to pick fights on the net
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On September 29 2011 04:01 XsebT wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 03:43 Kordox wrote:
It's not just one troll though. I come across such "elitist" BW fans on Teamliquid, Reddit and youtube every single day. When there's a discussion about Brood War, several people will inevitably start bashing sc2 and especially its fans, out of the blue and completely unprovoked. I've almost completely stopped reading the BW section of TL because people have become so intolerant. Now I really don't want to start a BW vs SC2 war here too. Just wanted to say that JP really is on to something. There is a problem out there. Pro tip: Don't read reddit. (Or at the very least don't take anything you read there to heart) You've stopped reading the bw section? What? No, you don't come the bw section and talk about sc2 (if you do, yes, expect intolerance). Lucky, I pretty much never see sc2 being discussed in the bw section. We don't come to the bw section to discuss sc2 man. Yes, there are exception, but luckily TL has great moderators + report function, which can keep it clean.
Why do you assume it's me who's doing something wrong? I'm not talking about sc2 in the BW section, because I know it's not the place for it. I'm talking about BW threads where BW people start bashing sc2 completely out of the blue. You mention mods, but I've seen even mods do it, and then go on to warn and ban other people who respond to those hateful comments trying to earnestly defend themselves. I was shocked that I kept seeing such bias, and that's what made me stop going there. You may not have witnessed such behavior, but I have. Many times.
On September 29 2011 04:07 GreyKnight wrote:
are you new to the internet? this sort of elitism exists through all of videogames. it's not specific to brood war or starcraft. it's just the same "old don't like the new" attitude people always have. it's not a legitimate problem for sc2 to really address because it's so insignificant and EVERYWHERE.
You're right that such behavior is not exclusive to the Starcraft community, but it's irrelevant. I only responded to the poster who was dismissing JP's comment about said behavior, to make it clear that it's not just him who's feeling this way. Even here from you guys I'm feeling a lot of negativity, which I feel is completely unwarranted. It does frustrate me that other people can't just calm down and enjoy the e-sports without having to create drama every chance they get.
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On September 29 2011 05:20 ForeverAzerG wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 04:46 Grettin wrote:On September 29 2011 04:16 ForeverAzerG wrote:
this is getting annoying wheres the vod >( You sure are getting annoying. On September 29 2011 02:42 itmeJP wrote:
You people are so needy!
The video was 94gb which has to be transferred from the Tricaster to an external HD, copied over again to a new PC, converted to mp4, and then uploaded. It takes time. Sorry for wanting to sleep a couple hours. It'll be finished processing within the hour I've been told. your annoying trying to pick fights on the net
Saying you want the VOD won't make it ready faster, just fyi
If you can't live without SotG just listen to the mp3 you won't miss much
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Haaa Artosis, you disappoint me each week more and more man >< This week Artosis doesn't know about the WCG on OGN, doesn't even know that the vods are on fucking GOM site, say he saw Sage's games but think it's a 12-16 DT drop (4 in the shuttle and 4 warped, it's pretty hard to not remember if you actually saw the game)
Talk about Oz games as "terrible builds by Oz" (wat ??)
I'm sure he doesn't even know that Oz, JYP and Sage are in ro8...then he talks about people in esport just for the money that disgust him xD
He's totally disconnected with the scene now, the funny thing is he keeps talking about "the korean metagame" like he is at the avant-guarde on this subject 
I'm very critical because I'm mostly disappointed, Artosis was one of the few I liked to hear talking because he watched the games but now not only he doesn't know but he tries to make it look like he does. Now we have zero community figure left that can actually talk about Korean game/metagame. (we have Wolf/DOA or even Moletrap, but they don't appear anywhere but GOM)
Anyway, that was a very good show this week, I'll re-listen to it I think.
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On September 29 2011 05:29 MrCon wrote:Haaa Artosis, you disappoint me each week more and more man >< This week Artosis doesn't know about the WCG on OGN, doesn't even know that the vods are on fucking GOM site, say he saw Sage's games but think it's a 12-16 DT drop (4 in the shuttle and 4 warped, it's pretty hard to not remember if you actually saw the game) Talk about Oz games as "terrible builds by Oz" (wat ??) He's totally disconnected with the scene now, the funny thing is he keeps talking about "the korean metagame" like he is at the avant-guarde on this subject I'm very critical because I'm mostly disappointed, Artosis was one of the few I liked to hear talking because he watched the games but now not only he doesn't know but he tries to make it look like he does. Now we have zero community figure left that can actually talk about Korean game/metagame. (we have Wolf/DOA or even Moletrap, but they don't appear anywhere but GOM) Anyway, that was a very good show this week, I'll re-listen to it I think.
He said that he thinks JYP is a little better than Oz, but that PvP they played was hard to judge as a measure of skill because JYP's builds were so bad. He didn't talk shit on Oz.
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He didn't really talk shit, he said that JYP is perhaps a little better than Oz (I agree about this), then he talked about Oz terrible builds while laughing.
Perhaps I missunderstood.
edit : ha ok, it was about JYP's builds. Which I still don't understand but perhaps.
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On September 29 2011 05:29 MrCon wrote:Haaa Artosis, you disappoint me each week more and more man >< This week Artosis doesn't know about the WCG on OGN, doesn't even know that the vods are on fucking GOM site, say he saw Sage's games but think it's a 12-16 DT drop (4 in the shuttle and 4 warped, it's pretty hard to not remember if you actually saw the game) Talk about Oz games as "terrible builds by Oz" (wat ??) I'm sure he doesn't even know that Oz, JYP and Sage are in ro8...then he talks about people in esport just for the money that disgust him xD He's totally disconnected with the scene now, the funny thing is he keeps talking about "the korean metagame" like he is at the avant-guarde on this subject I'm very critical because I'm mostly disappointed, Artosis was one of the few I liked to hear talking because he watched the games but now not only he doesn't know but he tries to make it look like he does. Now we have zero community figure left that can actually talk about Korean game/metagame. (we have Wolf/DOA or even Moletrap, but they don't appear anywhere but GOM) Anyway, that was a very good show this week, I'll re-listen to it I think.
I agree, I wish we'd see Wolf and Rotterdam in more shows since they seem to be the only ones right now who follows their respective scene properly (Rotterdam EU and Wolf KR).
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On September 29 2011 05:38 MrCon wrote:
He didn't really talk shit, he said that JYP is perhaps a little better than Oz (I agree about this), then he talked about Oz terrible builds while laughing.
Perhaps I missunderstood.
edit : ha ok, it was about JYP's builds. Which I still don't understand but perhaps.
Ya, he just said JYP in his mind is a better player. Then said JYP vs Oz was disappointing because JYP's builds were so bad. Didn't say anything about Oz's builds. If you watch the games, JYP's builds were very vulnerable. He took tons of damage from early aggression.. his builds did not look very refined. (which is a must for top level PvP)
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