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On June 02 2011 06:29 thee telescopes wrote:
Seems like the only reason Incontrol gets this irrational level of hate is because he actually engages in the community and these frustrated people think they're more likely to get a response out of him than they would another player. Kinda sad.
I have no idea how the best podcast I listen to also seems to have the worst vocal following of any of them.
tyler talks to the community alot and yet almost noone dumps on him
jinro has one of the highest post counts on the site and yet people are civil to him.
ive also seen people like drewbie, naniwa and huk all post a reasonable amount. none of these people get dumped on. just simply saying that engaging in the community gets you a lot of crap isnt fair.
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On June 02 2011 06:32 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 06:29 thee telescopes wrote:
Seems like the only reason Incontrol gets this irrational level of hate is because he actually engages in the community and these frustrated people think they're more likely to get a response out of him than they would another player. Kinda sad.
I have no idea how the best podcast I listen to also seems to have the worst vocal following of any of them.
tyler talks to the community alot and yet almost noone dumps on him jinro has one of the highest post counts on the site and yet people are civil to him. ive also seen people like drewbie, naniwa and huk all post a reasonable amount. none of these people get dumped on. just simply saying that engaging in the community gets you a lot of crap isnt fair. Tyler himself said he engages in the community less these days on the last SOTG, none of those guys are nearly as prominent as Incontrol is right now. This thread reaches super infantile levels every week it seems and I really doubt most of the people involved on either side are really that way in general; people just seem to like to use this thread to take out their frustrations on others.
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Seems like the only reason Incontrol gets this irrational level of hate is because he actually engages in the community and these frustrated people think they're more likely to get a response out of him than they would another player. Kinda sad.
When he says things like "this team is better than that" or "that team isn't good enough" or "i'm better than X player, look at my results" OF COURSE people are going to reply...
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On June 02 2011 06:34 thee telescopes wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 06:32 turdburgler wrote:On June 02 2011 06:29 thee telescopes wrote:
Seems like the only reason Incontrol gets this irrational level of hate is because he actually engages in the community and these frustrated people think they're more likely to get a response out of him than they would another player. Kinda sad.
I have no idea how the best podcast I listen to also seems to have the worst vocal following of any of them.
tyler talks to the community alot and yet almost noone dumps on him jinro has one of the highest post counts on the site and yet people are civil to him. ive also seen people like drewbie, naniwa and huk all post a reasonable amount. none of these people get dumped on. just simply saying that engaging in the community gets you a lot of crap isnt fair. Tyler himself said he engages in the community less these days on the last SOTG, none of those guys are nearly as prominent as Incontrol is right now. This thread reaches super infantile levels every week it seems and I really doubt most of the people involved on either side are really that way in general; people just seem to like to use this thread to take out their frustrations on others.
Perhaps you should take note of the things that Incontrol gets into arguments over and then see if any of the pros with higher post counts act the same way.
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tyler doesn't make claims that he's better than players that have similar or better results than him so he doesn't get shit storms. Jinro can say w.e cause he got 4th at 2 gsl's which is better than anyone on TL. Only reason for the inc hate is cause of his statements about FXO
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On June 02 2011 06:29 thee telescopes wrote:
Seems like the only reason Incontrol gets this irrational level of hate is because he actually engages in the community and these frustrated people think they're more likely to get a response out of him than they would another player. Kinda sad.
I have no idea how the best podcast I listen to also seems to have the worst vocal following of any of them.
Yes, please ignore the entire conversation that occurred, we're just the worst vocal following, obviously...
He doesn't get "hate" because he engages in the community, at least that's not what's happening here, he's getting responded to for being abrasive and dismissive after starting a topic in regards to EG/FXO himself.
There are plenty of players who engage in the community and are well liked. Even inControl is generally well liked, he just said some dumb stuff here and is getting called out on it.
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On June 02 2011 06:37 ditkaordie wrote:
tyler doesn't make claims that he's better than players that have similar or better results than him so he doesn't get shit storms. Jinro can say w.e cause he got 4th at 2 gsl's which is better than anyone on TL. Only reason for the inc hate is cause of his statements about FXO
and how he is better than sheth and moonan because of ONE result which is debatable in the first place (MLG)
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when was the last time day9 got hate? hes way more prominent than Incontrol.
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On June 02 2011 06:36 GuiMontag wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 06:34 thee telescopes wrote:On June 02 2011 06:32 turdburgler wrote:On June 02 2011 06:29 thee telescopes wrote:
Seems like the only reason Incontrol gets this irrational level of hate is because he actually engages in the community and these frustrated people think they're more likely to get a response out of him than they would another player. Kinda sad.
I have no idea how the best podcast I listen to also seems to have the worst vocal following of any of them.
tyler talks to the community alot and yet almost noone dumps on him jinro has one of the highest post counts on the site and yet people are civil to him. ive also seen people like drewbie, naniwa and huk all post a reasonable amount. none of these people get dumped on. just simply saying that engaging in the community gets you a lot of crap isnt fair. Tyler himself said he engages in the community less these days on the last SOTG, none of those guys are nearly as prominent as Incontrol is right now. This thread reaches super infantile levels every week it seems and I really doubt most of the people involved on either side are really that way in general; people just seem to like to use this thread to take out their frustrations on others. Perhaps you should take note of the things that Incontrol gets into arguments over and then see if any of the pros with higher post counts act the same way.
InControl is actually opinionated and invested in where the community goes. It is in his nature to debate points and actually engage in discussion. Most of the other pros ignore everyone or they aren't active on the site.
How exactly does he act unlike other people?
On June 02 2011 06:38 GuiMontag wrote:
when was the last time day9 got hate? hes way more prominent than Incontrol.
When he got into a balance discussion with IdrA. Day9 is a neutral character at all times, and doesn't want to directly tell people they are wrong. So he is less as less likely to be hated on.
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On June 02 2011 06:38 nvs. wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 06:37 ditkaordie wrote:
tyler doesn't make claims that he's better than players that have similar or better results than him so he doesn't get shit storms. Jinro can say w.e cause he got 4th at 2 gsl's which is better than anyone on TL. Only reason for the inc hate is cause of his statements about FXO and how he is better than sheth and moonan because of ONE result which is debatable in the first place (MLG)
Yup I agree with this. That is an example of one more thing that he has said to piss people off (which I addressed but was at the very bottom of the page...  I will quote it below in the spoiler)
And of course that is only referring to VERY recent things. He does this kind of stuff all the time. For example go look up his posts on the Demuslim thread and tell me he isn't asking for a response.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 02 2011 06:31 Chicane wrote:
Oh iNcontroL... I was actually really happy you got 4th last MLG, even though you seem to ignore the fact that the seeding is skewed (and I see you ignore it by putting yourself above Moonan given Sigur's argument)... but now I really can't wait for you to get a reality check. Unfortunately you are now in what is easily considered by everyone to be the easiest group at Columbus, so you will still likely do quite well, but when compared to all the players at Dallas and your results there, I don't think you truly deserved 4th.
That's just my opinion. You can prove me wrong with consistent results in the future. Either way, it is disappointing to see that you can't simply acknowledge that your results were due to your opportunity to attend every MLG (as we have seen though your responses).
Also, I really hate how you are now talking down on other players for having "no accomplishments" when you were recently in the position of having none, but you were saying it was an unfair judgment to make due to how hard it is to post good results.
Well the fact is Moonan has actually won quite a decent amount of events if you look at his TLPD (with many good players in those events like Axslav, CatZ, dde, sheth, fenix, vibe, cruncher etc.) yet you immediately dismiss him as having no accomplishments. What a fucking joke... seriously. Someone who was in your position of having to defend himself from being criticized for having no accomplishments is now taking the opportunity to put himself above other players who don't have accomplishments now that you do (even though they also have accomplishments). I seriously lost a lot of respect for you... though I know that doesn't matter.
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How exactly does he act unlike other people?
By making controversial statements and then plugging his ears and going NONONONO when people bring up contrary evidence.
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On June 02 2011 06:40 Demonace34 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 06:36 GuiMontag wrote:On June 02 2011 06:34 thee telescopes wrote:On June 02 2011 06:32 turdburgler wrote:On June 02 2011 06:29 thee telescopes wrote:
Seems like the only reason Incontrol gets this irrational level of hate is because he actually engages in the community and these frustrated people think they're more likely to get a response out of him than they would another player. Kinda sad.
I have no idea how the best podcast I listen to also seems to have the worst vocal following of any of them.
tyler talks to the community alot and yet almost noone dumps on him jinro has one of the highest post counts on the site and yet people are civil to him. ive also seen people like drewbie, naniwa and huk all post a reasonable amount. none of these people get dumped on. just simply saying that engaging in the community gets you a lot of crap isnt fair. Tyler himself said he engages in the community less these days on the last SOTG, none of those guys are nearly as prominent as Incontrol is right now. This thread reaches super infantile levels every week it seems and I really doubt most of the people involved on either side are really that way in general; people just seem to like to use this thread to take out their frustrations on others. Perhaps you should take note of the things that Incontrol gets into arguments over and then see if any of the pros with higher post counts act the same way. InControl is actually opinionated and invested in where the community goes. It is in his nature to debate points and actually engage in discussion. Most of the other pros ignore everyone or they aren't active on the site. How exactly does he act unlike other people? Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 06:38 GuiMontag wrote:
when was the last time day9 got hate? hes way more prominent than Incontrol. When he got into a balance discussion with IdrA. Day9 is a neutral character at all times, and doesn't want to directly tell people they are wrong. So he is less as less likely to be hated on.
As mentioned above, there are numerous pros with higher post counts.
Day9 had Idra fans declaring Idra won, there wasn't anywhere near the commotion Geoff gets lol
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On June 02 2011 06:40 Demonace34 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 06:36 GuiMontag wrote:On June 02 2011 06:34 thee telescopes wrote:On June 02 2011 06:32 turdburgler wrote:On June 02 2011 06:29 thee telescopes wrote:
Seems like the only reason Incontrol gets this irrational level of hate is because he actually engages in the community and these frustrated people think they're more likely to get a response out of him than they would another player. Kinda sad.
I have no idea how the best podcast I listen to also seems to have the worst vocal following of any of them.
tyler talks to the community alot and yet almost noone dumps on him jinro has one of the highest post counts on the site and yet people are civil to him. ive also seen people like drewbie, naniwa and huk all post a reasonable amount. none of these people get dumped on. just simply saying that engaging in the community gets you a lot of crap isnt fair. Tyler himself said he engages in the community less these days on the last SOTG, none of those guys are nearly as prominent as Incontrol is right now. This thread reaches super infantile levels every week it seems and I really doubt most of the people involved on either side are really that way in general; people just seem to like to use this thread to take out their frustrations on others. Perhaps you should take note of the things that Incontrol gets into arguments over and then see if any of the pros with higher post counts act the same way. InControl is actually opinionated and invested in where the community goes. It is in his nature to debate points and actually engage in discussion. Most of the other pros ignore everyone or they aren't active on the site. How exactly does he act unlike other people?
Well, there's nothing wrong with being opinionated and invested in the community... When you say something cool or smart, you'll get tons of support and when you say something stupid, you'll get a little flaming.
When you belittle another team, and then abrasively respond to someone speaking positively of that team, labeling them an "EG hater" despite their comments being moderate at worst, then you're obviously going to get called out, and when you attempt to further your point of my team is better, we would do better in korea even though we aren't going to korea with shoddy reasoning, you're putting yourself in a silly situation.
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On June 02 2011 06:40 Demonace34 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 06:36 GuiMontag wrote:On June 02 2011 06:34 thee telescopes wrote:On June 02 2011 06:32 turdburgler wrote:On June 02 2011 06:29 thee telescopes wrote:
Seems like the only reason Incontrol gets this irrational level of hate is because he actually engages in the community and these frustrated people think they're more likely to get a response out of him than they would another player. Kinda sad.
I have no idea how the best podcast I listen to also seems to have the worst vocal following of any of them.
tyler talks to the community alot and yet almost noone dumps on him jinro has one of the highest post counts on the site and yet people are civil to him. ive also seen people like drewbie, naniwa and huk all post a reasonable amount. none of these people get dumped on. just simply saying that engaging in the community gets you a lot of crap isnt fair. Tyler himself said he engages in the community less these days on the last SOTG, none of those guys are nearly as prominent as Incontrol is right now. This thread reaches super infantile levels every week it seems and I really doubt most of the people involved on either side are really that way in general; people just seem to like to use this thread to take out their frustrations on others. Perhaps you should take note of the things that Incontrol gets into arguments over and then see if any of the pros with higher post counts act the same way. InControl is actually opinionated and invested in where the community goes. It is in his nature to debate points and actually engage in discussion. Most of the other pros ignore everyone or they aren't active on the site. How exactly does he act unlike other people?
Well here is just ONE example. Let me repeat that it is just a single example but he does this kind of stuff all the time.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=214795¤tpage=12
Let me also say that I read this thread when I had much more respect for him. When I read this thread I was surprised that anyone thought it was an acceptable way to behave here, especially with teammates. A thread that came up later with demuslim in it had no hint that it was ever a joke... in fact there was only more proof that it was a legitimate conversation when Incontrol responded "STFU plz" to someone who brought it up.
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On June 02 2011 06:42 nvs. wrote:By making controversial statements and then plugging his ears and going NONONONO when people bring up contrary evidence.
By engaging in a debate? What controversial statements has he made recently? I think he actually backs up his points quite well.
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I have no idea what I've done to earn such rampant fucking haters. I can't get a word in without 10 responses. Half of them are mannered and level headed and the other are flaming sacks of shit.
I'm out of here.
So long to this thread. Thanks guys.
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On June 02 2011 06:38 GuiMontag wrote:
when was the last time day9 got hate? hes way more prominent than Incontrol.
you have to remember that day9 is basically jesus
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On June 02 2011 06:46 iNcontroL wrote:
I have no idea what I've done to earn such rampant fucking haters. I can't get a word in without 10 responses. Half of them are mannered and level headed and the other are flaming sacks of shit.
I'm out of here.
So long to this thread. Thanks guys.
Shame it had to end like this.
Best in luck in your ventures.
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On June 02 2011 06:46 Demonace34 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 06:42 nvs. wrote:How exactly does he act unlike other people? By making controversial statements and then plugging his ears and going NONONONO when people bring up contrary evidence. By engaging in a debate? What controversial statements has he made recently? I think he actually backs up his points quite well.
??? have you seen the show???????
User was temp banned for this post.
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On June 02 2011 06:38 nvs. wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 06:37 ditkaordie wrote:
tyler doesn't make claims that he's better than players that have similar or better results than him so he doesn't get shit storms. Jinro can say w.e cause he got 4th at 2 gsl's which is better than anyone on TL. Only reason for the inc hate is cause of his statements about FXO and how he is better than sheth and moonan because of ONE result which is debatable in the first place (MLG)
how are sheth and moonan better than incontrol, then? is that one result of incontrol so inflated that it's somehow an anti-result now and makes players like sheth and moonan more accomplished than he is? i don't get it.
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