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On June 01 2011 16:14 eggs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 16:13 MuseMike wrote:On June 01 2011 16:10 eggs wrote:On June 01 2011 16:05 MuseMike wrote:On June 01 2011 16:01 Chicane wrote:On June 01 2011 15:58 MuseMike wrote:On June 01 2011 15:56 Pekkz wrote:On June 01 2011 15:55 hunts wrote:
I can't speak for everyone, but I certainly would never watch SOTG again if destiny was on it. Let me guess. You know someone who has been raped? Or maybe they would rather have another person who is more knowledgeable? Destiny is good, but he is not a Tyler, IdrA, or Incontrol. I'd be happy if IdrA became a regular. How is Destiny not knowledgeable? He is actually a solid player despite what many people think, and he contributes intelligently to conversations. MORE knowledgeable. There is a difference. his point is he is MORE knowledgeable that you are giving him credit for. your comment made the assumption that he wasn't one of the MORE knowledgeable people in the SC2 community. No my comment had the assumption that he was less knowledgeable than Tyler, Idra or Incontrol. Reread the post if you had a moment where you skipped part of my post. I gave him credit for being good in other posts, but he is not in GM and more importantly has not produced results at tournaments yet. You are making assumptions about my post that are not true. idra, tyler, and incontrol (well no loner incontrol) are already on the show. how could you rather have someone replace incontrol who is already on the show? you make no sense.
...I hope to jesus you are trolling. You would want to replace Incontrol with someone of equal knowledge that he or his fellow panelists have. NOT someone with less knowledge and experience. Is that hard to understand?
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KESPA really tried to argue that Blizzard can't control their IP which they own and created....?
Are they stupid?
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On June 01 2011 16:18 MuseMike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 16:14 eggs wrote:On June 01 2011 16:13 MuseMike wrote:On June 01 2011 16:10 eggs wrote:On June 01 2011 16:05 MuseMike wrote:On June 01 2011 16:01 Chicane wrote:On June 01 2011 15:58 MuseMike wrote:On June 01 2011 15:56 Pekkz wrote:On June 01 2011 15:55 hunts wrote:
I can't speak for everyone, but I certainly would never watch SOTG again if destiny was on it. Let me guess. You know someone who has been raped? Or maybe they would rather have another person who is more knowledgeable? Destiny is good, but he is not a Tyler, IdrA, or Incontrol. I'd be happy if IdrA became a regular. How is Destiny not knowledgeable? He is actually a solid player despite what many people think, and he contributes intelligently to conversations. MORE knowledgeable. There is a difference. his point is he is MORE knowledgeable that you are giving him credit for. your comment made the assumption that he wasn't one of the MORE knowledgeable people in the SC2 community. No my comment had the assumption that he was less knowledgeable than Tyler, Idra or Incontrol. Reread the post if you had a moment where you skipped part of my post. I gave him credit for being good in other posts, but he is not in GM and more importantly has not produced results at tournaments yet. You are making assumptions about my post that are not true. idra, tyler, and incontrol (well no loner incontrol) are already on the show. how could you rather have someone replace incontrol who is already on the show? you make no sense. ...I hope to jesus you are trolling. You would want to replace Incontrol with someone of equal knowledge that he or his fellow panelists have. NOT someone with less knowledge and experience. Is that hard to understand?
both of you shut up, jesus. serious last-word-on-the-internet syndrome
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On June 01 2011 16:03 baumer wrote:
It felt very hypocritical to hear the response to Destiny using "rape" when every other word on the show was "s*@t", "f@#k" and "Jesus Christ" and "F@#$ you, Huck", all while "representing" the community. (Apologies for so many quotes)
the thing is ... Destiny is popular because he does this if he stops his popularity will drop dramatically his stream is not for everyone but he has loyal fans
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On June 01 2011 16:19 elmizzt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 16:18 MuseMike wrote:On June 01 2011 16:14 eggs wrote:On June 01 2011 16:13 MuseMike wrote:On June 01 2011 16:10 eggs wrote:On June 01 2011 16:05 MuseMike wrote:On June 01 2011 16:01 Chicane wrote:On June 01 2011 15:58 MuseMike wrote:On June 01 2011 15:56 Pekkz wrote:On June 01 2011 15:55 hunts wrote:
I can't speak for everyone, but I certainly would never watch SOTG again if destiny was on it. Let me guess. You know someone who has been raped? Or maybe they would rather have another person who is more knowledgeable? Destiny is good, but he is not a Tyler, IdrA, or Incontrol. I'd be happy if IdrA became a regular. How is Destiny not knowledgeable? He is actually a solid player despite what many people think, and he contributes intelligently to conversations. MORE knowledgeable. There is a difference. his point is he is MORE knowledgeable that you are giving him credit for. your comment made the assumption that he wasn't one of the MORE knowledgeable people in the SC2 community. No my comment had the assumption that he was less knowledgeable than Tyler, Idra or Incontrol. Reread the post if you had a moment where you skipped part of my post. I gave him credit for being good in other posts, but he is not in GM and more importantly has not produced results at tournaments yet. You are making assumptions about my post that are not true. idra, tyler, and incontrol (well no loner incontrol) are already on the show. how could you rather have someone replace incontrol who is already on the show? you make no sense. ...I hope to jesus you are trolling. You would want to replace Incontrol with someone of equal knowledge that he or his fellow panelists have. NOT someone with less knowledge and experience. Is that hard to understand? both of you shut up, jesus. serious last-word-on-the-internet syndrome
Or explaining the post I made to a person didn't understand what I was getting at.
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Destiny actually came off as an intelligent person on this episode. That's not the impression I got of him when watching some of his streaming. I'd actually like to see him more on SotG. He is easy to listen to, he doesn't stutter, and he speaks clearly.
Also on the subject of using the word "rape". Someone really close to me was raped when she was 13, and I don't mind people using that word what so ever, I even use it myself sometimes. It's just stupid people who get bothered with those kinds of words.
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On June 01 2011 16:21 MuseMike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 16:19 elmizzt wrote:On June 01 2011 16:18 MuseMike wrote:On June 01 2011 16:14 eggs wrote:On June 01 2011 16:13 MuseMike wrote:On June 01 2011 16:10 eggs wrote:On June 01 2011 16:05 MuseMike wrote:On June 01 2011 16:01 Chicane wrote:On June 01 2011 15:58 MuseMike wrote:On June 01 2011 15:56 Pekkz wrote:
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Let me guess. You know someone who has been raped? Or maybe they would rather have another person who is more knowledgeable? Destiny is good, but he is not a Tyler, IdrA, or Incontrol. I'd be happy if IdrA became a regular. How is Destiny not knowledgeable? He is actually a solid player despite what many people think, and he contributes intelligently to conversations. MORE knowledgeable. There is a difference. his point is he is MORE knowledgeable that you are giving him credit for. your comment made the assumption that he wasn't one of the MORE knowledgeable people in the SC2 community. No my comment had the assumption that he was less knowledgeable than Tyler, Idra or Incontrol. Reread the post if you had a moment where you skipped part of my post. I gave him credit for being good in other posts, but he is not in GM and more importantly has not produced results at tournaments yet. You are making assumptions about my post that are not true. idra, tyler, and incontrol (well no loner incontrol) are already on the show. how could you rather have someone replace incontrol who is already on the show? you make no sense. ...I hope to jesus you are trolling. You would want to replace Incontrol with someone of equal knowledge that he or his fellow panelists have. NOT someone with less knowledge and experience. Is that hard to understand? both of you shut up, jesus. serious last-word-on-the-internet syndrome Or explaining the post I made to a person didn't understand what I was getting at.
you responded to a post simply saying to stop making pointless arguments with a pointless argument. good job! you proved both of our points!
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On June 01 2011 16:17 eggs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 16:10 emesen wrote:
SC2 does not equal the NBA. SC2 equals "basketball"
MLG, NASL, IPL, GSL those are analogous to the NBA.
the NBA employed Michael Jordan. Like how MLG and the
other esports leagues employ the casters you listed.
SC2 does not employ Destiny. He uses SC2 as a means to make a living.
not according to the recent Blizzard-Kespa negotiations. Kespa tried to argue that Blizzard can't control starcraft because starcraft is like "basketball" and not the NBA, but that didn't work out so well for them.
the rights over intellectual property has nothing to do with what I was trying to say...
unless you are arguing that SC2 actually is an entity like the NBA and employs people
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can someone link the "hey were really shy, but FUK HUK" video they were talking about.
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On June 01 2011 16:23 Gnax wrote:
Destiny actually came off as an intelligent person on this episode. That's not the impression I got of him when watching some of his streaming. I'd actually like to see him more on SotG. He is easy to listen to, he doesn't stutter, and he speaks clearly.
Also on the subject of using the word "rape". Someone really close to me was raped when she was 13, and I don't mind people using that word what so ever, I even use it myself sometimes. It's just stupid people who get bothered with those kinds of words.
He is a well-spoken person when he is focusing on his subject and not talking about it while playing SC2. 
On another note, just because you feel that way doesn't mean other people do. I agree with Destiny on the issue, but anecdotal evidence doesn't really do much for the argument at hand.
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On June 01 2011 16:10 emesen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 15:54 bode927 wrote:
Inc stated that if you're going to be a spokesperson for sc2, you have to censor yourself. Destiny's response was something like, i don't try to be a spokesperson for sc2.
Let me ask this... Did Michael Jordan have a choice as to whether or not he represented the NBA when he was a player? No. His actions were closely watched. SC2 does not equal the NBA. SC2 equals "basketball" MLG, NASL, IPL, GSL those are analogous to the NBA. the NBA employed Michael Jordan. Like how MLG and the other esports leagues employ the casters you listed. SC2 does not employ Destiny. He uses SC2 as a means to make a living.
So to follow up with your analogy ... if you play "Basketball" for fun with others, do you expect them to respect you or are you ok with them doing all dirty tricks and fouls which might even injure you?
Even though it isnt for profit the people who say stupid things IN PUBLIC can still hurt / damage their viewers.
On June 01 2011 15:54 bode927 wrote:
I know that Destiny's claim is that he doesn't want this kind of notoriety, or that he doesn't want to gain the kind of fans that are offended by his language, but I want to know if it's worth it to potentially hold back the whole SC2 E-sports scene, just to maintain his image among his current stream fans.
So to reverse the conclusion you are making Destiny only wants fans who like / ignore / dont think much about using swear words. In short: its all about publicity and being cool for the kids because he dares to use bad words ... Sex sells and so does using dirty words, its all about the money in our capitalist societies and never ever about creating a better future.
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On June 01 2011 16:23 eggs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 16:21 MuseMike wrote:On June 01 2011 16:19 elmizzt wrote:On June 01 2011 16:18 MuseMike wrote:On June 01 2011 16:14 eggs wrote:On June 01 2011 16:13 MuseMike wrote:On June 01 2011 16:10 eggs wrote:On June 01 2011 16:05 MuseMike wrote:On June 01 2011 16:01 Chicane wrote:On June 01 2011 15:58 MuseMike wrote:
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Or maybe they would rather have another person who is more knowledgeable? Destiny is good, but he is not a Tyler, IdrA, or Incontrol. I'd be happy if IdrA became a regular. How is Destiny not knowledgeable? He is actually a solid player despite what many people think, and he contributes intelligently to conversations. MORE knowledgeable. There is a difference. his point is he is MORE knowledgeable that you are giving him credit for. your comment made the assumption that he wasn't one of the MORE knowledgeable people in the SC2 community. No my comment had the assumption that he was less knowledgeable than Tyler, Idra or Incontrol. Reread the post if you had a moment where you skipped part of my post. I gave him credit for being good in other posts, but he is not in GM and more importantly has not produced results at tournaments yet. You are making assumptions about my post that are not true. idra, tyler, and incontrol (well no loner incontrol) are already on the show. how could you rather have someone replace incontrol who is already on the show? you make no sense. ...I hope to jesus you are trolling. You would want to replace Incontrol with someone of equal knowledge that he or his fellow panelists have. NOT someone with less knowledge and experience. Is that hard to understand? both of you shut up, jesus. serious last-word-on-the-internet syndrome Or explaining the post I made to a person didn't understand what I was getting at. you responded to a post simply saying to stop making pointless arguments with a pointless argument. good job! you proved both of our points!
That was never your point, you spoke nothing of it. I also never said it was pointless, again, maybe you don't read the posts all the way through? Either way I won't be responding to your trolling anymore. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are trolling.
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On June 01 2011 16:25 MuseMike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 16:23 Gnax wrote:
Destiny actually came off as an intelligent person on this episode. That's not the impression I got of him when watching some of his streaming. I'd actually like to see him more on SotG. He is easy to listen to, he doesn't stutter, and he speaks clearly.
Also on the subject of using the word "rape". Someone really close to me was raped when she was 13, and I don't mind people using that word what so ever, I even use it myself sometimes. It's just stupid people who get bothered with those kinds of words. He is a well-spoken person when he is focusing on his subject and not talking about it while playing SC2. On another note, just because you feel that way doesn't mean other people do. I agree with Destiny on the issue, but anecdotal evidence doesn't really do much for the argument at hand.
Well at least it nullifies the argument that you can't use the word "rape" because people who listen might have been raped or know someone who was raped. If they get bothered by it, it's because of their personality. So with that said. rape, fuck, ass, shit, cancer, nigger etc is all the same thing.
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Years from now, these early episodes of SotG will be the time capsule of insight into the pre-emperor of the known universe days of incontrol, with idra at his side like that little winged thingy that laughed by jabba's side...that I can't remember the name of atm...but I digress.
Your searing dialogues and sometimes ludicrous rants that brighten my life weekly shall be sorely missed, sir. Best of luck with all the madness going on right now and in the future.
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On June 01 2011 15:48 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 15:46 coolcor wrote:On June 01 2011 15:42 Phenny wrote:On June 01 2011 15:40 oncearunner wrote:
someone answer this question, why is incontrol leaving!? Because he is doing so much stuff, NASL, coaching, playing, life stuff, etc. No it is to do youtube videos he said he was getting more time soon to do youtube videos so that time must be coming from SOTG! I doubt any of the other stuff is stopping soon. (If it did he might even have time for youtube and SOTG! ) No, he said that is a project that he would like to work on when he gets more time, not that he is leaving sotg for his youtube stuff. And Destiny better not replace Geoff. That would be terrible
"incontroltv there It's a project to be worked on when I get some more time on my hands... which is fairly soon actually!"
He did not specifically say it was from sotg but where else would he be getting more time soon unless he is also quitting one of the other projects people listed? He was quitting SOTG in a week and getting more time soon seems like a strange coincidence.
I'm surprised nobody asked him to put his youtube time he's getting soon into staying on SOTG. (I think youtube is better should be awesome!)
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On June 01 2011 16:26 Rabiator wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 16:10 emesen wrote:On June 01 2011 15:54 bode927 wrote:
Inc stated that if you're going to be a spokesperson for sc2, you have to censor yourself. Destiny's response was something like, i don't try to be a spokesperson for sc2.
Let me ask this... Did Michael Jordan have a choice as to whether or not he represented the NBA when he was a player? No. His actions were closely watched. SC2 does not equal the NBA. SC2 equals "basketball" MLG, NASL, IPL, GSL those are analogous to the NBA. the NBA employed Michael Jordan. Like how MLG and the other esports leagues employ the casters you listed. SC2 does not employ Destiny. He uses SC2 as a means to make a living. So to follow up with your analogy ... if you play "Basketball" for fun with others, do you expect them to respect you or are you ok with them doing all dirty tricks and fouls which might even injure you? Even though it isnt for profit the people who say stupid things IN PUBLIC can still hurt / damage their viewers. Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 15:54 bode927 wrote:
I know that Destiny's claim is that he doesn't want this kind of notoriety, or that he doesn't want to gain the kind of fans that are offended by his language, but I want to know if it's worth it to potentially hold back the whole SC2 E-sports scene, just to maintain his image among his current stream fans. So to reverse the conclusion you are making Destiny only wants fans who like / ignore / dont think much about using swear words. In short: its all about publicity and being cool for the kids because he dares to use bad words ... Sex sells and so does using dirty words, its all about the money in our capitalist societies and never ever about creating a better future.
fouling is against the rules, a proper analogy would be a player on the other team swears every time he misses a shot
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On June 01 2011 15:05 kedinik wrote:
Oh look, a bunch of straight white guys circle jerking each other about the intellectual and cultural progressivism of being willing to talk about raping faggot niggers.
Get over yourselves.
You want to say shit like that, it's a free country; by all means.
But don't pretend you're some kind of shining intellectual light for having the courage to talk like a klan member for sake of talking like a klan member.
User was warned for this post
All due respect, I'd like to respond to this warning and the reasons for which I received it.
I think there are some serious and deep rooted issues with this community relating to how it treats damn near every minority.
I was attempting to point out how tonight's SotG showcased these problems.
I don't think it's accurate to characterize my post as flaming or ad hominem.
I did not personally insult anyone (which defines ad hominem flaming), I only express anger and disbelief at the outrageous things they argued for on the show tonight and pointed out the ridiculous context in which they made those claims.
Again, with all due respect, and I apologize if I was over the top or out of bounds in some respect.
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I CAN'T STOP CRYING. GEOFF WE WILL MISS YOU SO MUCH T_______T
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