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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
May 20 2011 17:09 GMT
#21861
Just finished the show and it was fantastic. Had me stifling my laughs at work while sirl'ing throughout the entire thing. I'm just happy it's almost Tuesday again :D

p.s. Want more Hot_Bid
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
May 20 2011 17:41 GMT
#21862
Ok, then everyone has gotten death threats. When someone loses a game against me it doesnt surprise me when they say something like "i'm gonna kill you" or "die of cancer", it happens. But that's just the internet being the internet, and i wouldnt call them death threats...


I'm pretty sure the death/rape threats she's referencing were things she received in an e-mail, which is a little different from someone making a post about her. Someone posting "god she should just die" on a forum is pretty easy to ignore, but someone going out of their way to e-mail you is different. Her home and work address were both public at the time (since she was living at the GOM house), too, which makes the threats a little less empty.

I'm not saying it's some huge deal, since it's most likely trolls just trying to scare her out of the job, but it's still not the same as someone saying "diaf" on a forum.
From the void I am born into wave and particle
elitesniper420
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada135 Posts
May 20 2011 18:11 GMT
#21863
On May 20 2011 06:59 Ballack wrote:
When you recieve death threats, obscure hate and vile sexism for commentating a league to the best of your ability, then there is something wrong.

Seems to me like the only thing wrong is that the "best of your ability" isn't enough. People get dissatisfied with low quality.
Nineball
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway163 Posts
May 20 2011 18:35 GMT
#21864
On May 21 2011 03:11 elitesniper420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 06:59 Ballack wrote:
When you recieve death threats, obscure hate and vile sexism for commentating a league to the best of your ability, then there is something wrong.

Seems to me like the only thing wrong is that the "best of your ability" isn't enough. People get dissatisfied with low quality.
That is what you got out of that? Oh my god

People: death threats, hate, all that, its wrong! Some people seriously need to wake up!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 20 2011 19:09 GMT
#21865
On May 21 2011 03:11 elitesniper420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 06:59 Ballack wrote:
When you recieve death threats, obscure hate and vile sexism for commentating a league to the best of your ability, then there is something wrong.

Seems to me like the only thing wrong is that the "best of your ability" isn't enough. People get dissatisfied with low quality.


And somehow "Man this sucks" = "I hope you die in a fire so GSL will be good again" is your life? If your response to the "low quality" casting makes you post/email things that would get you arrested, you need to ajust how your repond to thing.

I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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geNis
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
113 Posts
May 20 2011 19:11 GMT
#21866
On May 21 2011 02:09 mordek wrote:
Just finished the show and it was fantastic. Had me stifling my laughs at work while sirl'ing throughout the entire thing. I'm just happy it's almost Tuesday again :D

p.s. Want more Hot_Bid


I agree! If Hot_Bid were to be on the show more often, State of the Game would be even better (who could have thought it could get better?).
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
May 20 2011 19:18 GMT
#21867
On May 21 2011 04:09 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 03:11 elitesniper420 wrote:
On May 20 2011 06:59 Ballack wrote:
When you recieve death threats, obscure hate and vile sexism for commentating a league to the best of your ability, then there is something wrong.

Seems to me like the only thing wrong is that the "best of your ability" isn't enough. People get dissatisfied with low quality.


And somehow "Man this sucks" = "I hope you die in a fire so GSL will be good again" is your life? If your response to the "low quality" casting makes you post/email things that would get you arrested, you need to ajust how your repond to thing.



Stop blowing people's comments out of proportion if you don't even understand them. He said the only thing wrong was the part about the "best of her ability" and that he thinks someone doing their best isn't necessarily acceptable if their "best" still isn't up to par with the league's standards.

In no way shape or form is he condoning the threats or hate or sexism, if anything he's saying he's not okay with it.
From the void I am born into wave and particle
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-20 19:41:15
May 20 2011 19:40 GMT
#21868
On May 20 2011 06:39 Shiladie wrote:
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On May 20 2011 06:29 DataMiner wrote:
What kind of alias is "ItmeJP" It's really retarded IMO

User was temp banned for this post.


I was just checking his post history before reporting for that post, mods are too on top of things!



That guy was trolling JP's stream chat as well. I just don't understand how people get their jollies from doing obnoxious stuff like that.

on topic: Hopefully Xsplit gets fixed/stabilized – It's kind of fun to see everyone's facial expressions.
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
May 21 2011 09:20 GMT
#21869
A childish scrawl of my current thoughts after reading about Tyler and thinking of SotG:

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[image loading]


Crazyeyes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1342 Posts
May 21 2011 10:05 GMT
#21870
On May 21 2011 18:20 Full.tilt wrote:
A childish scrawl of my current thoughts after reading about Tyler and thinking of SotG:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



Inc is awefully happy considering he's slipping into the depths of hell. =D
WeeEEeeEEEeeEEEeeeEEee!!
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
May 21 2011 10:39 GMT
#21871
His feet are on the slope though so one powereful flex of his mighty legs and everyone will be safe
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
May 21 2011 13:07 GMT
#21872
JP please get 2GD onto the podcast. The guy is hilarious.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Dystisis
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway713 Posts
May 21 2011 13:14 GMT
#21873
On May 21 2011 18:20 Full.tilt wrote:
A childish scrawl of my current thoughts after reading about Tyler and thinking of SotG:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



Strangely apt illustration... Good job.
eAzydaman
Profile Joined May 2010
83 Posts
May 21 2011 14:56 GMT
#21874
Sorry for a dumb question, but i can't seem to find the option for MP3 format on blip.tv. Theyve seem to changed the design of it. Can't use the video here at work on these crappy IE 8.0 comps.
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-21 20:41:17
May 21 2011 20:38 GMT
#21875
Will Day9 be on next week's episode despite being in Korea visiting Tasteless?
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
May 22 2011 01:46 GMT
#21876
I'm a bit concerned by some of the feedback i'm reading...

"Bring X on!"
"Bring Y on!"

Just because someone is hilarious or the stuff of recent news - they're hardly ideal candidates for this show. Competence and insight must be the deciding factor in the selection of guests.

Don't get me wrong, i love the fact that listening to SotG often brings many laughs, but does that make the show pure entertainment? Laughing at Geoff trolling Gretorp with a story on "the state of the bunker" is great, it's in line with the theme of the show.

Guess my post becomes too unspecific without some examples. 2GD - a great entertainer no doubt but what insight would he bring? He's not really a representative of anything (Stunlock studios) SC2 related and his thoughts on the state of the game are likely limited to what he's currently casting. What would it take to make 2GD a good guest? Well, just have him announce something Dreamhack related, share some behind the scenes stories or do a themed show where you bring on guests with a non-broodwar background who are active in the scene or players and ask for their (outside) take on it.

Kelly? If Kelly becomes the front face and main caster for that Chinese (Taiwanese?) star league, by all means, bring her on and let her enlighten us with inside info and a peak into a scene of which we know little.

Don't let entertainment value determine the direction of the show. Let 'the state of the game' remain the lead theme of the show, not 'the state of the metagame'.

Anyways, think this is my first post in the thread so don't want to sound too negative, will end on a positive note:

Love the show, appreciate the efforts of guests to entertain listeners and big props for putting this whole show together. Also a huge shoutout to Geoff whom i must admit truly finds his right forum here - i was never a fan of his somewhat brusque approach but oneliners and forum posts don't give an accurate portrayal, when given a chance to voice his opinions he does so in a convincing way. I still disagree with him most of the time but who cares? I listen and i enjoy and accept that there are those of differing opinion - well represented indeed.
confusedcrib
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1307 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-22 17:01:19
May 22 2011 16:59 GMT
#21877
I'm sure people will read this and just dismiss it as some random flamer, but I've listened to every episode of the show and what I have to say is that, lately, I don't like it nearly as much. The show has gotten way too "SC center"-esque where you guys spend nearly the whole show talking about whatever the latest tournament results are, and Tyler is the only one who bothers to go into gameplay discussion beyond "good" or "bad" anymore.

I just miss the in depth discussion of the matchups, what builds everyone is trying out, what interesting thing they saw someone else do. For me, that was why I listened to state of the game, and I just miss it. I'm going to keep watching, just because it's one of the few places to still get pro gamer insight, but I would really love it if it wasn't so focused on covering all of the latest news, and was more focused on the game itself.

"SC Center" is a great show, just please don't turn State of the Game into a weekly version of it.

On a side note: I'm also getting tired of not having a legitimate question every week, I love cocks and horses as much as the next guy, but the "what kind of soap do you use" questions are just getting old.

And now that everyone thinks I'm just a grumpy pants, I'll just go back to my cave and let everyone go back to talking about the latest thing that iNcontroL shouldn't have said.
I'm a writer for TeamLiquid, you've probably heard of me
Grantiere
Profile Joined March 2011
United States129 Posts
May 22 2011 17:46 GMT
#21878
On May 23 2011 01:59 confusedcrib wrote:
I'm sure people will read this and just dismiss it as some random flamer, but I've listened to every episode of the show and what I have to say is that, lately, I don't like it nearly as much. The show has gotten way too "SC center"-esque where you guys spend nearly the whole show talking about whatever the latest tournament results are, and Tyler is the only one who bothers to go into gameplay discussion beyond "good" or "bad" anymore.

I just miss the in depth discussion of the matchups, what builds everyone is trying out, what interesting thing they saw someone else do. For me, that was why I listened to state of the game, and I just miss it. I'm going to keep watching, just because it's one of the few places to still get pro gamer insight, but I would really love it if it wasn't so focused on covering all of the latest news, and was more focused on the game itself.

"SC Center" is a great show, just please don't turn State of the Game into a weekly version of it.

On a side note: I'm also getting tired of not having a legitimate question every week, I love cocks and horses as much as the next guy, but the "what kind of soap do you use" questions are just getting old.

And now that everyone thinks I'm just a grumpy pants, I'll just go back to my cave and let everyone go back to talking about the latest thing that iNcontroL shouldn't have said.


I think some of the issue is that since most of the participants only have time for or choose to watch a handful of tournament games a week, they end up discussing overall tourney results and not interesting or enlightening games in those tournaments, and their potential implications.
quiet noise
Profile Joined May 2011
599 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-22 21:54:55
May 22 2011 21:51 GMT
#21879
People who hate on Kelly are sad and pathetic individuals. How can you dislike a person who has done nothing wrong? she is a good person. She has not misbehaived in any way. She is a decent caster. there are dozens of other casters (khaldor, TLO etc) that gets away with having sometimes-hard-to-understand-accents. If you are a man, its OK to have an accent as long as you love starcraft and have decent understanding of the game (khaldor is not exactly Idra, he barely even plays the game but nobody dislikes him for that. he can even get away with having an accent because hes a man and looks like vin diesel) and if you actually listened to kellys casting you would notice that her understanding of the game is decent and that she is a very observant caster.

People in this community feel threatened by kelly because she is a young outgoing female. ESPORTS is not a place for women, its a place where socially inept and insecure young men can hide from the real world and obsess over their simple little game and avoid interaction with the oppopsite gender. When an outgoing, threatening woman enters this little male comfort zone, people feel confronted with the opposite sex and their own fear of interaction with females. That is why kelly gets hate. As a conscious, educated person i feel ashamed to be associated with a community that practice and celebrates sexism and hate against certain individuals.
Headshot
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1656 Posts
May 22 2011 21:53 GMT
#21880
On May 23 2011 06:51 quiet noise wrote:If you are a man, its OK to have an accent as long as you love starcraft and have decent understanding of the game

What? People hate on TotalBiscuit for the exact same reason and he's a guy. Kelly isn't hated because she's a girl, it's because people don't like her casting. Stop.
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