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nekuodah
Profile Joined August 2010
England2409 Posts
May 18 2011 23:52 GMT
#21781
On May 19 2011 08:48 ellirc wrote:
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On May 19 2011 08:05 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On May 19 2011 06:59 ellirc wrote:
All publicity is good publicity. Nuff said.

maybe true for people that just want to make money but not really true for others

Or a community that wants to grow. You sound so bitter.


Kinda hard for a community to grow properly when labelled as raging sexist death threatening nerds
Serious J
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada14 Posts
May 18 2011 23:53 GMT
#21782
Last night's episode is easily one of my favourites so far, lots of laughs were had. Thanks to everyone involved.
Durn
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada360 Posts
May 18 2011 23:55 GMT
#21783
On May 19 2011 08:48 zeru wrote:
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On May 19 2011 08:45 zull wrote:
incontrol taking a cheap shot at desrow is not very professional. He said people need to be more mature for esports to grow, maybe he should change his behavior first...

I can't help but laugh at posts bringing up professionalism and "FOR ESPORTS". It would be a pretty damn boring show if they just talked about minerals being mined for 2 hours.

Super true that, sir. Geoff is a stand-up guy with a big sense of humor that I feel like people misconstrue too often. To say he's "taking shots" is pulling that out of context and incorrect all around.

Big respect to all you guys, especially Hot_Bid for representing e-sports hard. Keep it up guys. Sick episode, as per usual. <3
"Even if I lose 100 games, that's 100 different arrows pointing me in the wrong direction." - Sean Day[9] Plott
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
May 18 2011 23:56 GMT
#21784
On May 19 2011 08:52 nekuodah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 08:48 ellirc wrote:
On May 19 2011 08:05 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On May 19 2011 06:59 ellirc wrote:
All publicity is good publicity. Nuff said.

maybe true for people that just want to make money but not really true for others

Or a community that wants to grow. You sound so bitter.


Kinda hard for a community to grow properly when labelled as raging sexist death threatening nerds

If people wouldn't act as such it would be better. Where does a label come from? Right... Stupid discussion.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
May 18 2011 23:58 GMT
#21785
On May 19 2011 08:48 ellirc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 08:05 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On May 19 2011 06:59 ellirc wrote:
All publicity is good publicity. Nuff said.

maybe true for people that just want to make money but not really true for others

Or a community that wants to grow. You sound so bitter.


why bitter.but hes right. and i respect teeler for staying "true" as stupid as it sounds.

the growth is killing the mom&pop stores. if you know what i mean
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
gregnog
Profile Joined December 2010
United States289 Posts
May 19 2011 00:02 GMT
#21786
On May 19 2011 08:48 ellirc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 08:05 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On May 19 2011 06:59 ellirc wrote:
All publicity is good publicity. Nuff said.

maybe true for people that just want to make money but not really true for others

Or a community that wants to grow. You sound so bitter.


A random half naked girl just kind of makes fun of the gaming community. Basically the interview put a spotlight how we are sexist and "psycho". Maybe even a hint of racism since her reply to the backlash was "I didn't know I had an accent". Was the word Starcraft even used?

I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 00:07:55
May 19 2011 00:03 GMT
#21787
On May 19 2011 09:02 gregnog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 08:48 ellirc wrote:
On May 19 2011 08:05 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On May 19 2011 06:59 ellirc wrote:
All publicity is good publicity. Nuff said.

maybe true for people that just want to make money but not really true for others

Or a community that wants to grow. You sound so bitter.


A random half naked girl just kind of makes fun of the gaming community. Basically the interview put a spotlight how we are sexist and "psycho". Maybe even a hint of racism since her reply to the backlash was "I didn't know I had an accent". Was the word Starcraft even used?



I think the funny thing is, regardless of how you feel about kelly, given the reaction she got as a caster and from that thread it's hard to say she wasn't that far from the truth. Maybe it's time the standard TL user looked in the mirror good and hard.

slight edit: I'm not saying the majority are, but the internet has a way of spawning insecurities and trolling from everybody. At some point people have to grow out of it. The sooner the better.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
eXain
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden6 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 00:08:51
May 19 2011 00:06 GMT
#21788
On May 19 2011 08:52 Korlinni wrote:
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On May 19 2011 08:45 zull wrote:
incontrol taking a cheap shot at desrow is not very professional. He said people need to be more mature for esports to grow, maybe he should change his behavior first...


It's quite obvious incontrol is still bitter at desRow for that youtube vid.


Couldn't agree more. I don't understand why he's bashing another coach when he barely knows the guy.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
May 19 2011 00:07 GMT
#21789
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BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 00:12:19
May 19 2011 00:10 GMT
#21790
On May 19 2011 09:03 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
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On May 19 2011 09:02 gregnog wrote:
On May 19 2011 08:48 ellirc wrote:
On May 19 2011 08:05 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On May 19 2011 06:59 ellirc wrote:
All publicity is good publicity. Nuff said.

maybe true for people that just want to make money but not really true for others

Or a community that wants to grow. You sound so bitter.


A random half naked girl just kind of makes fun of the gaming community. Basically the interview put a spotlight how we are sexist and "psycho". Maybe even a hint of racism since her reply to the backlash was "I didn't know I had an accent". Was the word Starcraft even used?



I think the funny thing is, regardless of how you feel about kelly, given the reaction she got as a caster and from that thread it's hard to say she wasn't that far from the truth. Maybe it's time the standard TL user looked in the mirror good and hard.


whole kelly drama is stupid³ anyways.

i didnt like her casting much at first and her voice was literally unbearable for me when i used my headset. i actually made a blog entry how to edit the gom players equalizer so her voice isnt that high pitch (and i think gom did exactly the same later just at their side of things). later i found it ok and sometimes happily watched code a.

but at no time i was "OMFG BBQ KELLY FUFUFU" which is plain retarded. give that girl a break. and that the totally irrelevant fhm thread resulted in a drama shitstrom just shows that way more idiots then ever before populate this forum now.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
May 19 2011 00:12 GMT
#21791
Are you people really that oblivious to the internet?

The TL community is what, 50~100k? With around 10k logged in at any given time?

There is no community in the world that big that doesn't turn into a shit-fest when that many people are present. Be thankful that this community is on the extreme low-end of this.

Are you hurting ESPORTS? Find out today - http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=232866
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 00:16:05
May 19 2011 00:15 GMT
#21792
On May 19 2011 09:12 Mailing wrote:
Are you people really that oblivious to the internet?

The TL community is what, 50~100k? With around 10k logged in at any given time?

There is no community in the world that big that doesn't turn into a shit-fest when that many people are present. Be thankful that this community is on the extreme low-end of this.



we that were here before the big wave of '10 know how TL was before all those idiots registered. yeah i guess its totally normal and more on the low end. but still its sad to see.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
itmeJP
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1101 Posts
May 19 2011 00:20 GMT
#21793
State of the Game EP39

Blogger Link // MP3 // Video VOD
Twitter.com/itmeJP -- Twitch.tv/itmeJP -- YouTube.com/itmeJP
Zeri
Profile Joined March 2010
United States773 Posts
May 19 2011 00:21 GMT
#21794
On May 19 2011 09:20 itmeJP wrote:
State of the Game EP39

Blogger Link // MP3 // Video VOD



ty sir ^^
You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to quit thinking.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
May 19 2011 00:22 GMT
#21795
On May 19 2011 09:20 itmeJP wrote:
State of the Game EP39

Blogger Link // MP3 // Video VOD


jp someone else already did the mp3! i dont need you hah!

but gonna DL from you too so you get your numbers ~
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Turbo.Tactics
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany675 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 00:25:44
May 19 2011 00:25 GMT
#21796
JP got a question for your trip to Blizzard! Speaking for every Zerg who cares about the race design: could you PLEASE ask them if there finally will be an adjutant portrait for Zerg? I know so many guys who are just annoyed to see an overlord when they click the hatch... sounds silly since you normally don't even notice the portrait in multiplayer but once you noticed, it just drives you mad -.-
Zerg - because Browders sons hate 'em
simme123
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Sweden810 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 00:39:08
May 19 2011 00:30 GMT
#21797
On May 19 2011 07:05 Crazyeyes wrote:
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On May 19 2011 06:37 simme123 wrote:
I'd like to state that the reason that Kelly isn't getting the good response while Nada has a whole thread of praise. Isn't sexist not from my point of view at least. The reason for me is that I just can't stand her accent and therefore I didn't enjoy what she contributed to the starcraft community. However I think we all can agree that nada in BW was godly and deserves all the praise in the world. And also it's hard to be cheerful when the article bashes the community, just as Tyler said.

But then I again I haven't bashed her for it as I see no reason to. It's great that she got into FHM not only for her but just for the publicity it brings to the sc2 community although it might mostly be bad at least from the point of view of teamliquid.

Just cause you dont like her doesnt mean she didn't contribute to the community. I think all of it is unwarranted, but I'm surprised people wernt expecting it. This is the internet, afterall. People are just dicks ;(

As for todays SotG, it was fucking awesome. There were some times where I coudlnt tell who was talking (have a bit of trouble differentiating hot bid and sheths voice) and ofc no cameras... but it was great anyways. ^__^


Key words are "my point of view".. and "I didn't enjoy". I didn't enjoy it but other clearly did. And I just state my thoughts on the matter. I don't say that she didn't contribute, otherwise I wouldn't have called it a contribution. It's just that I like many didn't enjoy it but we did enjoy nadas play in brood war = to me a praise thread for him is much more logical to me than a praise thread for her. And as for publicity I mean that it brings attention to the sc2 community which is great but them bashing teamliquid indirectly by saying nerds on the internet which most likely translates to people on a forum, which most likely is teamliquid since it's the biggest sc2 community site out there.


On May 19 2011 08:05 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
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On May 19 2011 06:59 ellirc wrote:
All publicity is good publicity. Nuff said.

maybe true for people that just want to make money but not really true for others

Agree with you Tyler. As I state above I think the publicity was beneficial for the sc2 community but for teamliquid specifically.
andyf
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom87 Posts
May 19 2011 01:21 GMT
#21798
On May 19 2011 01:53 ellirc wrote:
SC Center benefits from being max 15 minutes, nobody has time to watch anymore daily news. But I forgot he is not partner on YT.


Uploading longer than 15 minutes isn't locked into being a partner now - its being rolled out to everyone with good account standing.
what up
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
May 19 2011 01:23 GMT
#21799
On May 19 2011 08:48 ellirc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 08:05 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On May 19 2011 06:59 ellirc wrote:
All publicity is good publicity. Nuff said.

maybe true for people that just want to make money but not really true for others

Or a community that wants to grow. You sound so bitter.

There are many motivations that don't directly care about identity or reputation. They are all foolish except for making money. The adage "all publicity is good publicity" is primarily about business. Advertising is a way to inform people about your business with a positive spin and bad publicity is a way to inform people about your business with a negative spin. The adage is just saying that informing people about your business is the important part. The spin doesn't matter so much. The FHM article barely has any good information. It's essentially just negative spin about our community. That's bad publicity plain and simple.

The adage is called into question so often that if you googled it right now, most of the results are of people questioning it and qualifying it. So you really have to look at the specific situation. It's not a legitimate move to avoid examining the publicity by falling back to the adage.

What's the point of telling me you think I sound bitter. You sound judgmental. Who cares? Write things that you think readers will find useful and omit everything else.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
moltenlead
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada866 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 01:27:40
May 19 2011 01:24 GMT
#21800
I just listened to the state of the game recently, and there were some parts of the show that did trouble me when looking at the community as a whole. The one that I will focus on is at the end, at around 1:59:30, where Incontrol decides to make a mention of desrow leaving vVv.

While I do understand that in any community, there will always be inside jokes floating around, and there are people who will inevitably have jokes made about them by their peers; the snide way in which those comments were made happened to run counter to the professional side this community has been striving to portray was slightly upsetting.

I fully believe that when one person has another comment to say about another, they should do it to their face, rather than attacking them behind their back on a show that they most likely won't have a chance to defend themselves on. Unfortunately, today desrow was a victim of that. I understand that there may have been some sort of history between the two players given a youtube video posted in another TL thread, but I also understand that thread was posted very long ago. It started off amusingly, but as the joke progressed it seemed to transcend that boundary into an attacking territory.

TLDR: Whatever bad blood there is between players should be sorted out personally, not publicly, and this community does need to present a better face to the world. Consider whether we want gamers to be portrayed as bickering school children or courteous professionals.

Just a few thoughts on an instance that did concern me.
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