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Croatia7457 Posts
Knowing how much has passed from the start of the game would be really great. A good player knows what the opponent can throw at him and at what time. 4 gate pushes, baneling busts, fast banshee or void rays all have a certain time of apperance. Anyone else that would really like this feature? Tell blizzard then please! | ||
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PaJaMaJaM
United States30 Posts
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Ndugu
United States1078 Posts
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cloudJR
United States266 Posts
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Puosu
7104 Posts
At least MBS and automining had the good sides of making the game more appealing to the casual audience which will help the competitive scene as the amount of spectators will be higher. However a timer would hardly be something a casual player is going to care about, sure they will see the amount they've been in the game, but a casual player is probably not going to be too keen about having to remember when a specific timing is going to happen. | ||
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Schnake
Germany2819 Posts
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kajeus
United States679 Posts
On July 19 2010 00:49 Puosu wrote: Timing is a skill, it's something that a lot of good players can feel in their mind. They know the timings when a certain attack is coming and when it might be a good time to do a specific thing. Taking away this skill would be another step to making the game less competitive, something we certainly don't want to happen. At least MBS and automining had the good sides of making the game more appealing to the casual audience which will help the competitive scene as the amount of spectators will be higher. However a timer would hardly be something a casual player is going to care about. It would hurt the competitive scene while hardly adding anything to the casual players, that's how I see this. I'm with this guy. Although anybody can start a stopwatch, the standardization of an in-game timer would hurt the competitive scene without benefiting casual players. Learn to feel the timings out -- don't lean on some clock. | ||
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ckw
United States1018 Posts
On July 19 2010 00:49 Puosu wrote: Timing is a skill, it's something that a lot of good players can feel in their mind. They know the timings when a certain attack is going to be knocking the door on their natural and when it might be a good time to do a specific thing (expand, start a new unit production round). Taking away this skill would be another step to making the game less competitive, something we certainly don't want to happen. At least MBS and automining had the good sides of making the game more appealing to the casual audience which will help the competitive scene as the amount of spectators will be higher. However a timer would hardly be something a casual player is going to care about, sure they will see the amount they've been in the game, but a casual player is probably not going to be too keen about having to remember when a specific timing is going to happen. /End thread. | ||
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JohannesH
Finland1364 Posts
On July 19 2010 00:55 kajeus wrote: I'm with this guy. Although anybody can start a stopwatch, the standardization of an in-game timer would hurt the competitive scene without benefiting casual players. Learn to feel the timings out -- don't lean on some clock. You still need to have a feel for it, clock or not. | ||
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pilsken
Germany441 Posts
Or alternativly you're saying that putting a clock on your desk is actually cheating? | ||
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kajeus
United States679 Posts
On July 19 2010 00:59 JohannesH wrote: You still need to have a feel for it, clock or not. Sort of, yeah. But it becomes much more clunky with the clock. Really good players still won't need the clock, but it will be too easy for less-good players to predict timings successfully just by watching the clock. If you know how many seconds it takes for a good player to make something, then the clock is a huge step up over not having the clock. So it's not like it completely levels the playing field in this respect, but it does make the game a lot clunkier at high levels. Too many "not great" but good players will benefit too much from it. | ||
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Puosu
7104 Posts
On July 19 2010 01:06 pilsken wrote: So you think adding something that can be done by putting a clock on your desk does take away skill. Or alternativly you're saying that putting a clock on your desk is actually cheating? Yes indeed I am saying that. A third party source for information be it clock, a friend on vent or sight to the other players screen all go in the same box of cheats. I am absolutely sure the KeSPa referees wouldn't allow one of their players to bring a clock in to the booth either just like a referee of a more casual tournament wouldn't like one of their players to have such an advantage over the other players. Hard to make sure nobody is doing it online obviously. As is the case for maphack. It's easier to enforce it in a live environment, fortunately. | ||
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TwilightStar
United States649 Posts
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Croatia7457 Posts
And no matter how good is your gamesense a timer beats that each time. And any pro player with one will have an advantage. They might as well let us turn on an ingame one. | ||
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
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surraymb
Austria114 Posts
Sure, it would *help*, but do we really want the game to get easier to play? Where would you draw the line? If you add a clock to help you then what's next? A list of enemy units inside your vision? A warning message telling you that your Nexus has max energy? A command button to make a unit retreat to your HQ? A list of barracks not producing anything? I'm obviously exaggerating a bit but you get the idea. I just think that the game is easy enough to play already and going even further might hurt the game. | ||
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OPSavioR
Sweden1465 Posts
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On July 19 2010 01:24 surraymb wrote: This not a good comparison. In game timer will only give you a useful feature that you can have without it if you want to. I don't want this. Sure, it would *help*, but do we really want the game to get easier to play? Where would you draw the line? If you add a clock to help you then what's next? A list of enemy units inside your vision? A warning message telling you that your Nexus has max energy? A command button to make a unit retreat to your HQ? A list of barracks not producing anything? I'm obviously exaggerating a bit but you get the idea. I just think that the game is easy enough to play already and going even further might hurt the game. Everything else you mention you cannot have outside of the game. | ||
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andeh
United States904 Posts
or a timer that dings every 25 seconds to inject larva | ||
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Lightswarm
Canada967 Posts
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