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im a roc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States745 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-02 02:02:10
July 02 2010 02:02 GMT
#21
Well Blizzard (by means of Karune) have confirmed that there are actually Xel'Naga unit models that will be used in the single player campaign. You're right, though, the fact that that line has been removed indicates that they might not be the bad guys. Either way, I'm just super excited to learn more about them and see how they look in WoL.
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SonKiE
Profile Joined March 2010
United States167 Posts
July 02 2010 02:40 GMT
#22
the xelnagal is returning to combine protoss and zergin into a hybrid, they are then reborn
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Windblade
Profile Joined July 2009
United States161 Posts
July 02 2010 03:20 GMT
#23
Blizzard already said that the hybrids and Xel'Naga will be part of the MAIN StarCraft II story (meaning they will play a role in each of the 3 games).

I dont think they are the antagonists, it goes against everything the lore has stated about them - good beings.

I honestly think Duran works for an evil faction - probably the arch-nemesi of the Xel'Naga race, i mean come on every race has its own evil alternate; Protoss had Zerg, Terran have themselves/Kerrigan, in Warcraft is was Human/Orc, Night Elf/Undead/Burning Legion. It would continue with Blizzard's fundamental "two sides to a coin" overall design.

Blizz also said in an interview that you will interact with the hybrids, they are however a 'neutral' race.
im a roc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States745 Posts
July 02 2010 03:39 GMT
#24
On July 02 2010 12:20 Windblade wrote:
Blizzard already said that the hybrids and Xel'Naga will be part of the MAIN StarCraft II story (meaning they will play a role in each of the 3 games).

I dont think they are the antagonists, it goes against everything the lore has stated about them - good beings.

I honestly think Duran works for an evil faction - probably the arch-nemesi of the Xel'Naga race, i mean come on every race has its own evil alternate; Protoss had Zerg, Terran have themselves/Kerrigan, in Warcraft is was Human/Orc, Night Elf/Undead/Burning Legion. It would continue with Blizzard's fundamental "two sides to a coin" overall design.

Blizz also said in an interview that you will interact with the hybrids, they are however a 'neutral' race.

I've seen Karune say that they have Xel'Naga unit models in the single player campaign, and I assumed there were hybrids, but can you actually show me a link where it declares them to be neutral? I'm admittedly skeptical, but I'd be interested if this were actually true.
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Windblade
Profile Joined July 2009
United States161 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-02 04:31:19
July 02 2010 04:30 GMT
#25
It was one of the older ones, it might have been an interview id link it but...it was a long time ago and tbh i dont have the time to go digging through every interview T.T
to be on the safe side, i know for a fact he never said good or bad, im quite confident he said they will be doing their own things or something, but i do remember for sure he said that you will meet and have some interactions with them in the single-player
Keren
Profile Joined June 2010
United States67 Posts
July 02 2010 05:07 GMT
#26
My instinct tells me the main drama will probably revolve around the Xel'Naga's Phoenix creatures and/or the strange Void creature, perhaps to destroy said energy creature things. It would make sense that the artifacts that Zeratul talks about may have to do with shutting down these Xel'Naga temples and in fact, the vortex Zeratul falls in that was created by the energy creatures may well be the way he got to the temple in the Old Rivals video.
Windblade
Profile Joined July 2009
United States161 Posts
July 02 2010 06:01 GMT
#27
The problem with that would be the fact that these artifacts seems to be keys to the xel'naga temples, if anything Zeratul could literally mean that the artifacts are the key to a Xel'Naga device that could very well be needed to be activated to initiate the final sequence of the Cycle or complete it entirely.

Wow...maybe the XN are coming to activate said device? Considering Zeratul knows of the Cycle, i find it hard to believe he would try to prevent it, he just doesnt know if the protoss will be destroyed immediately or if it will be gradual me thinks.
Loverman
Profile Joined September 2007
Romania266 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-02 06:16:49
July 02 2010 06:15 GMT
#28
Ok so did everyone miss the "but do they come to save or destoy?" in the Old Rivals cinematic?
Also:
the protoss referred to the xel'naga as the Ihan-rii, the "Great Teachers", the "Makers", and the "Guardians",[5] as well as "gods".

During their journeys, they learned of the Voice in the Darkness, a Void-based entity which consumed entire civilizations. The xel'naga, who cherished life, imprisoned it with an Argus crystal beneath a barren world at KL-2.
From the wiki.

I think everyone is jumping to conclusions to quickly, the phoenix type energy beings could just be collecting samples of zerg/toss energy imprints/dna or w/e is needed for the merge. Although the xel'naga will affect the zerg and protoss races I doubt they want to destroy them for good as most people imply. Kerrigan might be after they're knowledge for personal gain, zeratul's just trying to keep his people safe, and the terrans are gonna get caught up in the middle as usual.
im a roc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States745 Posts
July 02 2010 13:10 GMT
#29
On July 02 2010 14:07 Keren wrote:
My instinct tells me the main drama will probably revolve around the Xel'Naga's Phoenix creatures and/or the strange Void creature, perhaps to destroy said energy creature things. It would make sense that the artifacts that Zeratul talks about may have to do with shutting down these Xel'Naga temples and in fact, the vortex Zeratul falls in that was created by the energy creatures may well be the way he got to the temple in the Old Rivals video.


Well, the energy creatures are thought to be in the direct service of the Xel'Naga; they were probably created by them, too. The energy creatures will only be hostile if the Xel'Naga themselves are hostile, and they can only be awoken from their respective temples if one of the races the Xel'Naga created are present. So if any Protoss or Zerg go wandering by a temple, then yes, they will be absorbed by the energy creature which will then fly away, but they wouldn't intentionally go attack some huge Protoss city or anything.

The Voice in the Dark aka Void Creature aka Eternity is a different story. We already know that he is evil, and in every likelihood he could be prompted to attack or possess and destroy populations of whole planets, regardless of race. The Xel'Naga had contained him for many millions of years, but given that he is now able to contact Zeratul through telepathy, as well as possess random individuals on different planets, he might be getting close to freeing himself, if he hasn't already. It is certainly possible that he will represent the main antagonist in the SC2 story.
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moon`
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States372 Posts
July 02 2010 13:29 GMT
#30
Great read! I never knew about Xel'Naga reproduction "Cycle."
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ValM
Profile Joined May 2010
India408 Posts
July 02 2010 18:35 GMT
#31
The book Twilight of the Dark Templar Saga made it clear that Samir Duran was NOT an agent of the Ihanrii or the Xelnaga. On the other hand whoever was trying to create the Protoss and Zerg hybrids through genetic modification were actually trying to stop the Xelnaga forever because the Xelnaga depend on protoss and zerg evolving into one single race for their successful recreation.

Also do other readers of the novel recall those creatures that Zeratul was following in the last stages of the book? Were they actually Xelnaga or an another race altogether?

So from what I follow from the game story and the novels...there are now FIVE faction..
1. Terran
2. Protoss
3. Zerg
4. Xelnaga (creator of the above 2)
5. Someone from the above 4 or an another race altogether which is trying to eliminate Xelnaga and destroy everything

and please ignore the smaller conflicts within a race(e.g Terran) and conflicts among the top 3 as the issue regarding the Xelnaga is on a much larger scale.
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titan55
Profile Joined July 2009
United States227 Posts
July 03 2010 08:25 GMT
#32
What I don't understand is how the Terran survived post-BW???

Didn't the UED come and whoop the dominion's ass and utterly destroyed them? After UED ruled them for whoever knows how long, the zerg came along and wiped out the UED. So how in the hell did the terran survive??? Like, the word dominion has even been heard since like likre 5 or 6th mission in Terran in BW
divinesage
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore649 Posts
July 03 2010 10:05 GMT
#33
Actually I don't even recall the Xel'Naga's "Cycle" of reproduction being explained in the SC/SCBW series. Was that written in a novel or something?
ValM
Profile Joined May 2010
India408 Posts
July 03 2010 10:33 GMT
#34
yup it was explained in the novel Twilight of the Dark Templar Saga and as for the survival of the Terran dominion Kerrigan after defeating the combined fleet of the protoss, the dominion and the UED. General Dugalle killed himself, Kerrigan spared Arcturus which was in itself a punishment for him and she spared Zeratul as well because that was the best form of torture for him due to the things he had to do.
The Terran Prince is now the king. Maru | MMA | Mvp forever
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-03 18:44:30
July 03 2010 18:40 GMT
#35
On July 03 2010 19:05 divinesage wrote:
Actually I don't even recall the Xel'Naga's "Cycle" of reproduction being explained in the SC/SCBW series. Was that written in a novel or something?



It's still kind of ambiguous. The Xel'Naga have been portrayed as having an obsession with creating and nurturing races to what they call purity of essence and purity of form. The Xel'Naga are also said to have lifespans even longer than those of the protoss. I'm suspecting the interest in creating new races is because the Xel'Naga are not a race with physical bodies, but possess the bodies of other species as part of their reproductive cycle. This is why Samir Duran could be a Xel'Naga, and why, if he is, he's trying to experiment with hybrids. The Zerg have purity of essence and the protoss have purity of form, merging the two would hypothetically result in a new "perfect" race for the Xel'Naga to inhabit. How come we never see physical depictions of the Xel'Naga, and why have they been so obsessed with growing, creating, and nurturing other races to their idea of perfection? Why were the so reluctant to fight back against the protoss and zerg when both races turned against them on separate occasions? I would further guess that the Xel'Naga raising the protoss and zerg to eventually "steal" their bodies would adversely affect the autonomy of the protoss and the zerg and this will be the main conflict behind sc2, where the terran once again get stuck in the middle of everything.

http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Xel'naga

This page kind of suggests that's what the Xel'naga's reproductive cycle is about. I think the Xel'naga never had physical forms and only persist by raising races they can then posses and be reborn as; they've had multiple physical incarnations throughout their existence and are constantly seeking to nurture a more perfect race to become. In this way they sort of parallel the zerg in that they assimilate other races into their own faction.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
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Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
July 03 2010 19:28 GMT
#36
If this void creature evil being thing is true then it looks like SC is taking even more from wh40k.
Chaos vs Order and Xelnaga vs Void Creature
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