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United States47024 Posts
On May 11 2010 22:16 Senx wrote:
Such an arrogant attitude towards the europe and US server, "So tester, whos the best player in the world? On Korean server obviously since thats where you play."
Really ticks me off when you make these bold statements when there is zero proof that koreans are actually better than the european/US top players.
You mean other than the fact that Tester, who doesn't even consider himself to be the best player on the Korean server, just wiped the floor with some of the best (if not the best) non-Korean players without even losing a single game?
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On May 11 2010 16:11 Skyze wrote:
Geez, from reading the other terran threads on this forum, you'd think Terran was not even viable to play! So many "im not playing until a patch fixes zerg and protoss" type terrans in the other threads, yet Korean progamers are saying Terran is the strongest race..
I wonder who to believe.. hmmm
MAYBE THE PEOPLE ACTUALLY PLAYING TERRAN??? LOL."TERRAN IS THE STRONGEST RACE" - Tester (but I play protoss!)
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lol, why are so many people upset about artosis's attitude towards NA/EU?
the EU/NA scene is a joke compared to the korean one...we know that... koreans know that
for every mechanically sound NA/EU player, theres a dozen koreans
They also probably have played many more games with higher competition for long enough to also have a higher RTS IQ as well
I know you're going to say this is a different game but just look at the iccup top 100
you can't tell me these players don't have a higher rts IQ, more experience and greater mechanics than you average NA/EU player
http://www.iccup.com/ladder.html
and they are littered with these type of amateur players (and ex-bw pros who are already dominating)
seriously...get over it, the NA/EU scene is inferior... getting upset makes you look as if you somehow pride yourself over your server's top gamers' abilities...maybe your idols aren't as good as you think they are
Idra on ASIA servers:: 2091 rating, 354-170...Idra on NA servers:: 2231 rating, 99-19
artosis on asia servers:: 1809 rating, 65-49 artosis on NA servers:: 1709 rating, 38-11
and from personal experience, asia is FAR FAR superior to NA servers
seriously... get over yourselves... asia is on a different level
dont understand how anybody can still take offense to this
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He's right. Terran tank marine timings are almost unstoppable right now that siege is changed.
vs protoss.
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nice vid thx
btw. im a terran player myself ( i rly suck never played sc only wc3 and i got my key1 week ago ) and i totally agree with testers opinion
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Terran has some powerful timing windows, but outside of those there is nothing but loss..
A maxed terran army facing off against a maxed P/Z army will result in loss, every time.
The mid-late game needs to be fixed, Zerg larva stacking and Toss chrono is too strong.
- Plat Terran.
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On May 12 2010 01:26 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2010 22:16 Senx wrote:
Such an arrogant attitude towards the europe and US server, "So tester, whos the best player in the world? On Korean server obviously since thats where you play."
Really ticks me off when you make these bold statements when there is zero proof that koreans are actually better than the european/US top players. You mean other than the fact that Tester, who doesn't even consider himself to be the best player on the Korean server, just wiped the floor with some of the best (if not the best) non-Korean players without even losing a single game?
yea with protoss lol, its nothing but pure theorycrafting
btw sen whos one of the best zerg on world atm says zerg is overpowered ....
On May 12 2010 01:35 billyX333 wrote:lol, why are so many people upset about artosis's attitude towards NA/EU? the EU/NA scene is a joke compared to the korean one...we know that... koreans know that for every mechanically sound NA/EU player, theres a dozen koreans They also probably have played many more games with higher competition for long enough to also have a higher RTS IQ as well I know you're going to say this is a different game but just look at the iccup top 100 you can't tell me these players don't have a higher rts IQ, more experience and greater mechanics than you average NA/EU player http://www.iccup.com/ladder.htmland they are littered with these type of amateur players (and ex-bw pros who are already dominating) seriously...get over it, the NA/EU scene is inferior... getting upset makes you look as if you somehow pride yourself over your server's top gamers' abilities...maybe your idols aren't as good as you think they are Idra on ASIA servers:: 2091 rating, 354-170...Idra on NA servers:: 2231 rating, 99-19 artosis on asia servers:: 1809 rating, 65-49 artosis on NA servers:: 1709 rating, 38-11 and from personal experience, asia is FAR FAR superior to NA servers seriously... get over yourselves... asia is on a different level dont understand how anybody can still take offense to this
its not that top asian players are way better than top EU/NA players(atleast we cant say yet)
just the quality of players from plat on asia must be way better than on other realms
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I'm abandining Terran after playing it for 10 years.. Going over to Z and winning more often.
Tired of marauders and early game timing pushes..
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On May 11 2010 23:25 iounas wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2010 23:15 yema1 wrote:
How will we know who is the best player when we can't play cross servers nor LAN? :/ ![[image loading]](http://www.ingame.de/pics//82877.png)
Hilarious. I'm laughing so hard I'm crying here.. ahh.
I'll start using this as a response, too.
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On May 12 2010 01:35 Piy wrote:
He's right. Terran tank marine timings are almost unstoppable right now that siege is changed.
vs protoss.
How was siege changed? I thought the tanks just got +10 hp in the most recent one, didnt see there ever being a patch that changed tanks in siege mode
On May 12 2010 01:43 Perfect Balance wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2010 23:25 iounas wrote:On May 11 2010 23:15 yema1 wrote:
How will we know who is the best player when we can't play cross servers nor LAN? :/ Hilarious. I'm laughing so hard I'm crying here.. ahh. I'll start using this as a response, too.
looool so good 
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United States47024 Posts
On May 12 2010 01:37 lolreaper wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2010 01:26 TheYango wrote:On May 11 2010 22:16 Senx wrote:
Such an arrogant attitude towards the europe and US server, "So tester, whos the best player in the world? On Korean server obviously since thats where you play."
Really ticks me off when you make these bold statements when there is zero proof that koreans are actually better than the european/US top players. You mean other than the fact that Tester, who doesn't even consider himself to be the best player on the Korean server, just wiped the floor with some of the best (if not the best) non-Korean players without even losing a single game? yea with protoss lol, its nothing but pure theorycrafting btw sen whos one of the best zerg on world atm says zerg is overpowered ....
You completely and utterly failed to read the post I was responding to.
It has to do with a supposedly arrogant attitude with regard to the Korean server, and not to do with this petty discussion of "is Terran overpowered" which you seem to think.
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wow theres nothing but koreans in the iccup top200?
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On May 12 2010 01:35 billyX333 wrote:
lol, why are so many people upset about artosis's attitude towards NA/EU?
Because of "honor" (couldn't find the right word), you always want your scene/country/etc the best and you will always try to defend it tbh.
For example, if I would say "All americans suck at sc2", even if it would be a fact, all the americans here would start giving arguments why they are actually good at starcraft 2.
It's the same reason why in soccer/other sports etc you support the person that is represting your country.
(oh an btw, that americans suck was just something I made up, i do not think that americans suck).
About the siege tank thing that someone asked a few posts above:
Splash dmg overall got changed to be more reliable, so it has a large effect on the siege tank.
Ontopic:
Thanks artosis for another great interview. And I was happy to see the quality of the questions you asked.
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On May 12 2010 01:37 Perfect Balance wrote:
Terran has some powerful timing windows, but outside of those there is nothing but loss..
A maxed terran army facing off against a maxed P/Z army will result in loss, every time.
The mid-late game needs to be fixed, Zerg larva stacking and Toss chrono is too strong.
- Plat Terran.
if not using t3 units there is nothing a zerg could do against a well microed mech army.
- Plat Zerg.
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On May 12 2010 01:37 Perfect Balance wrote:
Terran has some powerful timing windows, but outside of those there is nothing but loss..
A maxed terran army facing off against a maxed P/Z army will result in loss, every time.
The mid-late game needs to be fixed, Zerg larva stacking and Toss chrono is too strong.
- Plat Terran.
He signed it as Plat Terran so it must be true!! And people are wondering why we believe Tester. Because the only other people arguing the flipside of his point are these people here.
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On May 12 2010 01:56 Icx wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2010 01:35 billyX333 wrote:
lol, why are so many people upset about artosis's attitude towards NA/EU?
For example, if I would say "All americans suck at sc2", even if it would be a fact, all the americans here would start giving arguments why they are actually good at starcraft 2.
If a european said that, i may disagree
if a korean said that, i would 100% agree with him
because i know from what skill level they are comparing us to
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On May 12 2010 01:57 imperator-xy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2010 01:37 Perfect Balance wrote:
Terran has some powerful timing windows, but outside of those there is nothing but loss..
A maxed terran army facing off against a maxed P/Z army will result in loss, every time.
The mid-late game needs to be fixed, Zerg larva stacking and Toss chrono is too strong.
- Plat Terran. if not using t3 units there is nothing a zerg could do against a well microed mech army. - Plat Zerg.
ye agree
been dominating every single zerg with my mech play
the only way zerg can outweight it seems to be with broodlord but vikings along with thor is a deadly antiair
wouldnt be too shocked if i saw some buff on the zergling adrenaline or the ultralisk speed
and while they r at it why dont they change the m250 on the thor so its more allround rather than only being good vs buildings and ultralisk. its stupid how it completely counters the ultralisk but nothing else, bad design imo
i think toss is gonna rape a 200 psi terran tho xd
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I'm a Zerg player who has been offracing Terran and I have to say they have very hard mech micro, but if someone can pick it up it'd be so beastly. There's very little zerg army micro...it's just like lol a click in a good position.
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On May 12 2010 01:35 billyX333 wrote:
lol, why are so many people upset about artosis's attitude towards NA/EU?
Well, Artosis is himself not a very good player, but he thinks he is because he plays with koreans all day. He wants to be one of them so badly. He desperately rides the korean wave despite not having accomplished anything himself. He comes across as a big dork to me.
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On May 12 2010 02:16 HeyheyLBJ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2010 01:35 billyX333 wrote:
lol, why are so many people upset about artosis's attitude towards NA/EU?
Well, Artosis is himself not a very good player, but he thinks he is because he plays with koreans all day. He wants to be one of them so badly. He desperately rides the korean wave despite not having accomplished anything himself. He comes across as a big dork to me.
I think what he said was fair.. I don't think there are many mechanically sound NA players.. Even if you watch the top players in US/CA you still see tons of mistakes
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