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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
April 17 2010 13:57 GMT
#421
The nomination thread specifically stated that you should nominate yourself only if you thought you were deserving. That is why self-nominators get so much agression. Because in the eyes of the community, you don't deserve a key.

Are we clear about this now?
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
April 17 2010 14:02 GMT
#422
On April 17 2010 22:51 Pholon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2010 22:46 enzym wrote:
i dont think anyone of the people withdrawing their name does it out of selflessness. its got nothing to do with altruism.


Altruism or no, they're still giving up a chance to win a beta key - still counts for something.

They aren't, its fairly evident no one is getting a beta key, because obviously not enough people are going to cross their names off the list in time. or ever.
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
enzym
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany1034 Posts
April 17 2010 14:05 GMT
#423
On April 17 2010 23:02 TheAntZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2010 22:51 Pholon wrote:
On April 17 2010 22:46 enzym wrote:
i dont think anyone of the people withdrawing their name does it out of selflessness. its got nothing to do with altruism.


Altruism or no, they're still giving up a chance to win a beta key - still counts for something.

They aren't, its fairly evident no one is getting a beta key, because obviously not enough people are going to cross their names off the list in time. or ever.

they are mostly doing it for two reasons

1) hope that reverse psychology will net them a key
2) save face

none of those reasons is altruistic, and then you can add AntZ's point.
"I fart a lot, often on my gf in bed, then we roll around laughing for 5 mins choking in gas." — exog // "…be'master, the art of reflection. If you are not a thinking man, to what purpose are you a man at all?" — S. T. Coleridge
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
April 17 2010 14:06 GMT
#424
There are still a bunch of people who were nominated by several people on the nomination thread that didn't get a key :/
:)
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
April 17 2010 14:08 GMT
#425
It's hilarious seeing all these 1-post users nominating themselves. It's even more hilarious to see some of them try to justify their actions. Everybody knows that post count != contribution. But do you think that people are going to give a shit about you if you just join 2 days ago, say a bunch of things that may or may not be true and are almost certainly not provable? Especially when there are 1703131239709 people like you saying the exact same things? And when there are dozens of veterans who a) don't have keys and b) have actually CONTRIBUTED A LOT to the site? lmao get real.

And before someone flames me, 1. i'm not asking for a key and 2. i'm not one of those veterans who contributed a lot to TL

Good day to you all!
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
April 17 2010 14:08 GMT
#426
On April 17 2010 22:52 enzym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2010 22:51 Pholon wrote:
On April 17 2010 22:46 enzym wrote:
i dont think anyone of the people withdrawing their name does it out of selflessness. its got nothing to do with altruism.


Altruism or no, they're still giving up a chance to win a beta key - still counts for something.

how can you say that even after the post i quoted from albis?


Well the "maybe my selfless act will work its reverse psychology and grant me a key in the process" thing is pretty stupid but still.
Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
Deleted User 48059
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
86 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-17 14:11:30
April 17 2010 14:10 GMT
#427
The aggression is still wholly unnecessary, and entirely unfruitful. Why not just judge all nominations on their merits and distribute keys that way, exactly as the competition seemed to be intended? Of course, those who register an account just to nominate themselves are unlikely to get a key, not out of malice, not because oMgteyRsoSelFish!!, but because they are yet to demonstrate that they are productive members of the community. I'm not convinced that random flaming and accusations of selfishness are going to make those people want to go on to be helpful TL members, is it?

Kev


edit: that was largely at Osmoses. I need to learn to type quicker
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
April 17 2010 14:11 GMT
#428
I do not want a beta key.
I'm just a semi-newbie at the site, and I don't think i deserve it :O
Prozen
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States338 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-17 14:13:58
April 17 2010 14:12 GMT
#429
I would like to remain on the list. I have already posted how much I have contributed in the previous thread. Thank you for the reminder by the way Hot_Bid.
To transcend beyond greatness, you must become greatness itself.
Luga
Profile Joined April 2010
52 Posts
April 17 2010 14:12 GMT
#430
Great to see you guys being so fair about all of this. I'm new to this site, and I guess if the veterans of this site see someone more worthy I'd pass up on it, though I've been waiting so long to get myself a hold of a key, god knows what Blizzard is doing giving out keys on facebook instead to the people who has opted in, that this place, amongst all the good guys in Starcraft gaming, is among my last shot at getting a hold of one.
... What do I say?
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
April 17 2010 14:13 GMT
#431
On April 17 2010 23:08 writer22816 wrote:
It's hilarious seeing all these 1-post users nominating themselves. It's even more hilarious to see some of them try to justify their actions. Everybody knows that post count != contribution. But do you think that people are going to give a shit about you if you just join 2 days ago, say a bunch of things that may or may not be true and are almost certainly not provable? Especially when there are 1703131239709 people like you saying the exact same things? And when there are dozens of veterans who a) don't have keys and b) have actually CONTRIBUTED A LOT to the site? lmao get real.

And before someone flames me, 1. i'm not asking for a key and 2. i'm not one of those veterans who contributed a lot to TL

Good day to you all!


I dont think most people clearly understand why exactly low post users are so discriminated against. Not too long ago I was one and faced it myself, and still am to a lesser extent. I didnt mind, I still dont.
Since a low post user hasnt posted much (duh) the staff hasnt had a chance to evaluate them properly yet. The more you post, the better people will get to know what your personality/opinion/character are when you post, and mods can accordingly either ban you, give you a star, or just do nothing. The more posts you have without having a huge number of temps, or a perma ban altogether, the more likely it is that you are a decent person/poster.
but since low post users havent been around long enough to be evaluated, noone knows whether they are douchebags or awesome, thoughtful posters waiting to happen, either one is possible
and THAT is why while your postcount is low, unless the few posts you make are REALLY good, you will not be taken seriously, nor will you be truly accepted into the community
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-17 14:17:04
April 17 2010 14:14 GMT
#432
FYI, I have sent a mass PM notifying everyone on the list of this contest.

On April 17 2010 23:12 Prozen wrote:
I would like to remain on the list. I have already posted how much I have contributed. Thank you for the reminder by the way Hot_Bid.

On April 17 2010 23:12 Luga wrote:
Great to see you guys being so fair about all of this. I'm new to this site, and I guess if the veterans of this site see someone more worthy I'd pass up on it, though I've been waiting so long to get myself a hold of a key, god knows what Blizzard is doing giving out keys on facebook instead to the people who has opted in, that this place, amongst all the good guys in Starcraft gaming, is among my last shot at getting a hold of one.

Completely fair. Thank you for posting.

These guys seem pretty reasonable, does anyone feel bad flaming these kind of posters? They're just trying to get a key like everyone else.
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-17 14:18:36
April 17 2010 14:16 GMT
#433
On April 17 2010 23:13 TheAntZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2010 23:08 writer22816 wrote:
It's hilarious seeing all these 1-post users nominating themselves. It's even more hilarious to see some of them try to justify their actions. Everybody knows that post count != contribution. But do you think that people are going to give a shit about you if you just join 2 days ago, say a bunch of things that may or may not be true and are almost certainly not provable? Especially when there are 1703131239709 people like you saying the exact same things? And when there are dozens of veterans who a) don't have keys and b) have actually CONTRIBUTED A LOT to the site? lmao get real.

And before someone flames me, 1. i'm not asking for a key and 2. i'm not one of those veterans who contributed a lot to TL

Good day to you all!


I dont think most people clearly understand why exactly low post users are so discriminated against. Not too long ago I was one and faced it myself, and still am to a lesser extent. I didnt mind, I still dont.
Since a low post user hasnt posted much (duh) the staff hasnt had a chance to evaluate them properly yet. The more you post, the better people will get to know what your personality/opinion/character are when you post, and mods can accordingly either ban you, give you a star, or just do nothing. The more posts you have without having a huge number of temps, or a perma ban altogether, the more likely it is that you are a decent person/poster.
but since low post users havent been around long enough to be evaluated, noone knows whether they are douchebags or awesome, thoughtful posters waiting to happen, either one is possible
and THAT is why while your postcount is low, unless the few posts you make are REALLY good, you will not be taken seriously, nor will you be truly accepted into the community

And if the few posts you made were really good, then you probably could've/should've been amongst the 12 that were already chosen for forum "newbies" keys.
Lol I was a forum noob like at the beginning of January. I guess I still am, since I'm still a zergling, but I don't mind. Yeah guys, the more posts you make (more useful posts that is, such as informative threads, translations, good blogs, LR OPs, etc.) the more people will be able to recognize you. Good posting goes far on this community.

Edit: shit I'm almost at 3000. I should probably stop posting for a while now.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Redding
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia5 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-17 14:18:11
April 17 2010 14:16 GMT
#434
I could really use a beta key , been looking forward to this game for years, been playing SC1 since release and have many WCG comps, would really like a key to prac up for the upcoming torneys . self-nominate myself! I know I'm only a newbie to this site and there's probably other people that have been at TL for much longer, so I understand.
Prozen
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States338 Posts
April 17 2010 14:17 GMT
#435
On April 17 2010 23:13 TheAntZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2010 23:08 writer22816 wrote:
It's hilarious seeing all these 1-post users nominating themselves. It's even more hilarious to see some of them try to justify their actions. Everybody knows that post count != contribution. But do you think that people are going to give a shit about you if you just join 2 days ago, say a bunch of things that may or may not be true and are almost certainly not provable? Especially when there are 1703131239709 people like you saying the exact same things? And when there are dozens of veterans who a) don't have keys and b) have actually CONTRIBUTED A LOT to the site? lmao get real.

And before someone flames me, 1. i'm not asking for a key and 2. i'm not one of those veterans who contributed a lot to TL

Good day to you all!


I dont think most people clearly understand why exactly low post users are so discriminated against. Not too long ago I was one and faced it myself, and still am to a lesser extent. I didnt mind, I still dont.
Since a low post user hasnt posted much (duh) the staff hasnt had a chance to evaluate them properly yet. The more you post, the better people will get to know what your personality/opinion/character are when you post, and mods can accordingly either ban you, give you a star, or just do nothing. The more posts you have without having a huge number of temps, or a perma ban altogether, the more likely it is that you are a decent person/poster.
but since low post users havent been around long enough to be evaluated, noone knows whether they are douchebags or awesome, thoughtful posters waiting to happen, either one is possible
and THAT is why while your postcount is low, unless the few posts you make are REALLY good, you will not be taken seriously, nor will you be truly accepted into the community

I actually agree with this. I'm a low post user myself, but I don't think I had a chance to be evaluated yet. I've been playing Broodwar forever but I haven't found out about Teamliquid until later unfortunately. Yet as soon as I was able to discover this website, I believe I began to make posts that had insight. I'm pretty sure people definitely will have some prejudice against the low post users because they're assuming that they have nothing to contribute. But again, we don't know what kinds of things the low post users can offer.
To transcend beyond greatness, you must become greatness itself.
depthsofchaos
Profile Joined March 2010
Hungary30 Posts
April 17 2010 14:17 GMT
#436
Haha I bet you're getting fooled now and the ones deleting their names will get the key xD
SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
April 17 2010 14:19 GMT
#437
i wan't to stay. im not a 1post account, ahve made several threads and i have an active interest in TL and eSports. you may call me selfish, but to be altruistic others have to be selfish, it just doesnt work any other way.
Bisu... ;-(
Kare
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway786 Posts
April 17 2010 14:19 GMT
#438
I really wanna remain on the list! Im the saint here!
In life you can obtain all sorts of material wealth, but the real treasure is the epic feelings you get while doing something you love.
Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
April 17 2010 14:20 GMT
#439
On April 17 2010 23:13 TheAntZ wrote:
I dont think most people clearly understand why exactly low post users are so discriminated


Whoa what. TL heartily welcomes new members to the community (and reading Kennigit's original 50 keys post you'll see that there's a fair number of them are promising contributors). It just that when they self-nominate we get to dick on them :p
Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
April 17 2010 14:21 GMT
#440
On April 17 2010 23:17 Prozen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2010 23:13 TheAntZ wrote:
On April 17 2010 23:08 writer22816 wrote:
It's hilarious seeing all these 1-post users nominating themselves. It's even more hilarious to see some of them try to justify their actions. Everybody knows that post count != contribution. But do you think that people are going to give a shit about you if you just join 2 days ago, say a bunch of things that may or may not be true and are almost certainly not provable? Especially when there are 1703131239709 people like you saying the exact same things? And when there are dozens of veterans who a) don't have keys and b) have actually CONTRIBUTED A LOT to the site? lmao get real.

And before someone flames me, 1. i'm not asking for a key and 2. i'm not one of those veterans who contributed a lot to TL

Good day to you all!


I dont think most people clearly understand why exactly low post users are so discriminated against. Not too long ago I was one and faced it myself, and still am to a lesser extent. I didnt mind, I still dont.
Since a low post user hasnt posted much (duh) the staff hasnt had a chance to evaluate them properly yet. The more you post, the better people will get to know what your personality/opinion/character are when you post, and mods can accordingly either ban you, give you a star, or just do nothing. The more posts you have without having a huge number of temps, or a perma ban altogether, the more likely it is that you are a decent person/poster.
but since low post users havent been around long enough to be evaluated, noone knows whether they are douchebags or awesome, thoughtful posters waiting to happen, either one is possible
and THAT is why while your postcount is low, unless the few posts you make are REALLY good, you will not be taken seriously, nor will you be truly accepted into the community

I actually agree with this. I'm a low post user myself, but I don't think I had a chance to be evaluated yet. I've been playing Broodwar forever but I haven't found out about Teamliquid until later unfortunately. Yet as soon as I was able to discover this website, I believe I began to make posts that had insight. I'm pretty sure people definitely will have some prejudice against the low post users because they're assuming that they have nothing to contribute. But again, we don't know what kinds of things the low post users can offer.


Like i said, i never thought low post users have nothing to contribute necessarily (because lets face it, that wouldnt make sense to generalize that hard) and that some do contribute quite a bit.
I personally think you're a great poster/contributor :D
Not that my opinion matters for anything since im not a vet myself n__n
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