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On May 08 2010 09:50 Eury wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2010 09:13 imperator-xy wrote:On May 08 2010 08:58 Eury wrote:On May 08 2010 08:56 iloahz wrote:On May 08 2010 08:54 Eury wrote:On May 08 2010 08:53 iloahz wrote:
Kespa must be like "whos da boss now huh Blizz??" Well, considering how small the Korean market is in terms of revenue, this whole mess will end up hurting KeSPA more than Blizzard. If by small market you mean Blizzard's largest, then yes. You are joking, right? starcraft was sold at least 9 million times all around the world and 4,5 million times in korea, so how can you consider that a small market for starcraft 2? Units sold != Revenue - Blizzard get way less from each copy sold in Korea compared to copies sold in the west. Also Starcraft is a very small part of Blizzard's revenue. Btw Starcraft has sold over 11 million copies.
wrong, SC2 is confirmed to be 69000 won in Korea, which converts into 60.7 USD.
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On May 12 2010 04:16 scion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2010 09:50 Eury wrote:On May 08 2010 09:13 imperator-xy wrote:On May 08 2010 08:58 Eury wrote:On May 08 2010 08:56 iloahz wrote:On May 08 2010 08:54 Eury wrote:On May 08 2010 08:53 iloahz wrote:
Kespa must be like "whos da boss now huh Blizz??" Well, considering how small the Korean market is in terms of revenue, this whole mess will end up hurting KeSPA more than Blizzard. If by small market you mean Blizzard's largest, then yes. You are joking, right? starcraft was sold at least 9 million times all around the world and 4,5 million times in korea, so how can you consider that a small market for starcraft 2? Units sold != Revenue - Blizzard get way less from each copy sold in Korea compared to copies sold in the west. Also Starcraft is a very small part of Blizzard's revenue. Btw Starcraft has sold over 11 million copies. wrong, SC2 is confirmed to be 69000 won in Korea, which converts into 60.7 USD.
Wrong, SC2 is confirmed to have tariffs placed on it (assuming it is like other games sold internationally), and is subject to domestic taxes as well, on top of distribution fees that must be paid to whoever they select as their distributor. Try again... and please people, think before you post ^.^
((As a side note, even if there are no tariffs placed upon the game, which is entirely possible since it could be manufactured inside SK, the taxes on the game and the distribution fee Blizzard pays is still higher than inside the US. I only used the confirmed line to place your "factual" statement in a satiric light.))
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On May 12 2010 06:03 itzbrandnew wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2010 04:16 scion wrote:On May 08 2010 09:50 Eury wrote:On May 08 2010 09:13 imperator-xy wrote:On May 08 2010 08:58 Eury wrote:On May 08 2010 08:56 iloahz wrote:On May 08 2010 08:54 Eury wrote:On May 08 2010 08:53 iloahz wrote:
Kespa must be like "whos da boss now huh Blizz??" Well, considering how small the Korean market is in terms of revenue, this whole mess will end up hurting KeSPA more than Blizzard. If by small market you mean Blizzard's largest, then yes. You are joking, right? starcraft was sold at least 9 million times all around the world and 4,5 million times in korea, so how can you consider that a small market for starcraft 2? Units sold != Revenue - Blizzard get way less from each copy sold in Korea compared to copies sold in the west. Also Starcraft is a very small part of Blizzard's revenue. Btw Starcraft has sold over 11 million copies. wrong, SC2 is confirmed to be 69000 won in Korea, which converts into 60.7 USD. Wrong, SC2 is confirmed to have tariffs placed on it (assuming it is like other games sold internationally), and is subject to domestic taxes as well, on top of distribution fees that must be paid to whoever they select as their distributor. ((As a side note, even if there are no tariffs placed upon the game, which is entirely possible since it could be manufactured inside SK, the taxes on the game and the distribution fee Blizzard pays is still higher than inside the US. I only used the confirmed line to place your "factual" statement in a satiric light.))
Consumer Tax in SK is no higher than in the US. That being said, 69000 won includes the tax so in a way, people in SK will indeed pay less than people in US. It is still absurd to suggest Blizzard makes less money off each customers than in the US because price wise there is minimal difference, and COGS in SK would be in fact lower than in US because of cheaper labour and lower cost of living.
I don't see how distribution fee is going to be higher in SK. They developed a localized software (voice acting, UI is all in Korean). If anything, its going to be cheaper since country is smaller.
PLUS, Blizzard has additional incomes from PC bang industry in SK, who has to pay subscription fee to blizzard in order to provide SC2 for their customers. "Try again, think before you post please ^.^)
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I wish eSport had that sort of appeal here T_T
I never thought to hear a government official speak about gaming in a respectable fashion.
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I'm just trying to figure out all of those translations.
I'm assuming Bear is Marauder, Death is Reaper, God is Thor, but the rest is hazy to me. Flight Surgeon? It would make sense for that to be Medivac, but I'm pretty sure it isn't. Soldier Fire Room? o.0
Oh, and guys, note that some of those 4.5 million copies sold in Korea won't be sold due to the higher price of SC2. Just something to consider (especially since there's no doubt that there were probably many people who bought more than 1 copy)
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On May 12 2010 07:04 Tdelamay wrote:I wish eSport had that sort of appeal here T_T I never thought to hear a government official speak about gaming in a respectable fashion.
It's like M rated games here in the states. A bunch of people still get copies of games despite the lack of ID or parental units. I see the rating as not much of a deterrent except as just a written one not many will follow or do much about in the grand scheme of things.
Yeah e sports is huge over there. It's logical that the government would like to promote commerce in their city through gaming by having a big conference along with a tournament. It works for everyone involved. I also wish we had more involvement within our society to promote events like this. Might happen in time? 
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The thing I find most concerning is if younger players cant go pro (legally) or atleast start working up the ranks. that's assuming things work similar to bw, but with the kespa issues, and sc2 not even out yet, not sure how its gonna look.
I dont agree that sc2 is for adults at all though.Unless the campaign has some hardcore shit in it , lol.
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UPDATE:South Korean Starcraft has been modified to get rid of all profanities, change the blood color to black for all zerg/terran units, less amount of blood, and no more smoking scenes.
Blizzard officially requested the updated version to be rated to south Korea's ESRB equivalent.
Source:http://www.fomos.kr/
I know they changed blood color and things around for Diablo 2 to get T rating in SK, but I don't know if this is the right move. Maybe they'll release 2 different versions of Starcraft 2 in SK.
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On May 12 2010 14:03 scion wrote:
UPDATE:South Korean Starcraft has been modified to get rid of all profanities, change the blood color to black for all zerg/terran units, less amount of blood, and no more smoking scenes.
Blizzard officially requested the updated version to be rated to south Korea's ESRB equivalent.
Source:http://www.fomos.kr/
I know they changed blood color and things around for Diablo 2 to get T rating in SK, but I don't know if this is the right move. Maybe they'll release 2 different versions of Starcraft 2 in SK.
yeah i wrote that 1 page before
i hope those koreans will also fix the rating then
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On May 12 2010 14:03 scion wrote:
UPDATE:South Korean Starcraft has been modified to get rid of all profanities, change the blood color to black for all zerg/terran units, less amount of blood, and no more smoking scenes.
Blizzard officially requested the updated version to be rated to south Korea's ESRB equivalent.
Source:http://www.fomos.kr/
I know they changed blood color and things around for Diablo 2 to get T rating in SK, but I don't know if this is the right move. Maybe they'll release 2 different versions of Starcraft 2 in SK.
That won't effect european version of game right?
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Sounds like the AO rating is gone:
+ Show Spoiler [Article translation] +Starcraft 2, expected to be released in the second half of this year, has received an Age 12 rating from the Korean Game Rating Board. Blizzard had submitted Starcraft 2, currently undergoing beta testing, for review on May 7, but it received a rating of "Unsuitable for Minors." In response, Blizzard submitted a version with the offending elements adjusted on May 11. The new version excludes scenes with smoking and vulgar language from the videos displayed during the single-player campaign. Blood that appears during gameplay has been recolored black. According to Blizzard, "Since Starcraft 2 was originally developed to be a game adolescents could enjoy, we're very pleased with the Game Rating Board's decision. ... In the remaining time until SC2 goes on sale, we'll do our best to continue to perfect the game so that even more fans can enjoy it." Blizzard also stated that discussion was ongoing on whether Starcraft 2 should be released in separate versions for adults and adolescents. At the moment, there is the possibility that Blizzard will release only the age 12 version, but they may also decide to release both versions. Source: FOMOS
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Good news indeed 
Matchfixing scandal reported on mainstream media and now this - bad week for KeSPA I guess.
edit: thanks for translating gngfn
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interesting, so it may look like Blizzard may actually defeat Kespa in Korea.
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In before someone is mad that there will be 20% less smoking/blood in the game.
Good to see Blizzard leaped this hurdle well though.
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kespa mackes peffi angry! peffi destroys kespaaaa :O
what will come now?
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This is great news for SC2.
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ok so NA still gets the real sc2 version right? i mean... kids know the difference between a damn game and real life apparently not to the korean higher ups, but NA we know damn str8 a smoke is good toi have ^^
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