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and even this one is wrong what a fail jesus
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On April 17 2010 08:40 Umbrella wrote: 69. Quote 50 different posts of Idra calling someone or something "retarded" (5 points) + Show Spoiler + 1. On April 03 2010 16:49 idra wrote: its utterly retarded, it entirely defeats the purpose. people get upset about it because its like a handshake after a sports match, it shows respect for your opponent. mandating it makes it meaningless. "oh idra said gg this time he must respect his opponents now!" no, i still think theyre terrible and retarded, i just have to say it to get the money. 2. On March 16 2010 01:32 IdrA wrote: having only skimmed the thread, anyone suggesting a change to blink in order to buff the stalker is missing the point. theyre fine in terms of mobility and micro, even without blink. the problem is they deal 0 damage and die in 2 hits from a broodling. it would become a staple, but thats what protoss is really missing right now. you dont have anything thats solid in all normal scenarios, so you either have to cheat/guess one way or another, or sacrifice army strength in order to cover all your bases. this doesnt really make for good games, as if you try to guess (assuming you cant get full scouting information and you usually cant) it becomes a retarded game of who managed to hard counter who, and if you sac army strength to be able to deal with anything obviously you have a weak army. that works vs t cuz your army is still stronger than theirs, but you cant beat a good z that way. buffing stalkers fixes alot about pvz, though it might require some more fine tuning early game as robo based allins are already quite strong. it'd also fix the terran allin > protoss but protoss freewins if they survive situation in pvt right now. terran would need some kind of mid-late game buff to compensate but they need that anyway. 3. On April 09 2010 21:00 IdrA wrote: i was going to simply post that you're a retard and you should shut up because your opinions are uninformed bullshit. however i was recently banned and warned that, while it was acceptable for me to tell stupid people that theyre stupid, i must do so in a more indirect manner so that certain moderators with weak stomachs are not offended. as such; good sir, you appear to be somewhat lacking in intelligence. please refrain from posting until this is remedied, since it renders your opinions slightly less than correct and has a tendency to irritate more informed forum-goers. 4. On February 25 2009 13:33 IdrA wrote: i like the new tact "its not my fault im retarded and cant write properly guys" was alot gayer than "fuck you im a retard, deal with it" 5. On April 10 2010 17:47 IdrA wrote: Show nested quote + On April 10 2010 16:51 -orb- wrote: On April 10 2010 15:38 IdrA wrote: On April 10 2010 15:28 Lz wrote: On April 10 2010 15:26 Polynikes. wrote: I wonder how many players will use Zerg post patch 8. zerg still strongest late game race post patch 8 --; ya you're qualified to comment on anything related to the late game. idra i'm still bugged out at why you thought me saying "oh hai there" at the start of our ladder game weeks ago was bad manner I still just can't comprehend a world where saying hello to someone is bad mannered did i say it was bad mannered? have i EVER bitch about manner? you said "OH HAI THERE" and i said it was obnoxious or annoying or retarded 5. i only play one build zvt because all you people do is retarded cheeses and that one build is the closest ive found to safe vs all of them. whos better? someone who does a bunch of different builds and loses with all of them or someone who found a solid build and does it better than anyone else? 6. On February 03 2009 10:26 IdrA wrote: oo is a cheesy fucker, pvt at least probably gonna do somethin retarded and get raped 7. On April 01 2010 09:40 IdrA wrote: Show nested quote + On April 01 2010 09:38 Freezard wrote: On April 01 2010 09:00 Xeris wrote: Actually almost all those tournaments are EU, what are you talking about? You sound like some kinda angry newb I don't get why you're so hostile, lol. I put the question mark after American because I was just guessing, anyway it has nothing to do with it. I am angry simply because you're saying SC2B has killed off BW like it's a fact. Maybe you should try looking at it the other way around and stop being over-hyped just like half of the other beta players. Oh well, just saw it's April 1st and all so I guess your post is just a joke. It better be, newb. are you retarded or what 8. On March 18 2010 14:19 IdrA wrote: Show nested quote + On March 18 2010 14:09 fantomex wrote: Until Random is the standard for competitive play the cross-server and ranking issues are small potatoes. dont be retarded 9. On March 12 2010 14:35 IdrA wrote: its actually a terrible analogy a more fitting one would be some people wanted to make money so they told you theres this awesome theme park but you cant see it until you buy the tickets and to buy the tickets you have to do whatever they tell you to, no matter how retarded it is. and then once you buy the tickets you die without having led a fulfilling existence because you devoted yourself to a bunch of idiotic bullshit. now THAT was a good analogy. 10. On January 14 2010 16:25 IdrA wrote: we know god didnt do anything for the same reason you know the spaghetti monster and zeus didnt do anything. if you believed god could help him why would you do anything else? particularly psychoactive drugs given the potential side effects and, as you said, the fact that psychiatry is far from an exact science. seems downright irresponsible to subject him to that when god can pull him through. fact of the matter is you knew god couldnt help him. you may have 'prayed', you knew it wouldnt do anything and it didnt do anything. if you hadnt prayed would you have broken down and told him he was a crazy retard? no. you would have gone on doing exactly what you did. you can claim that it made you feel better or that it did help you maintain. but thats bullshit. if you believed god could affect the situation you wouldnt subject your brother to psychiatric treatment, and if you didnt believe that god could help then obviously you would gain no comfort from asking him to. 11. On January 14 2010 16:29 IdrA wrote: and, once again, i said generally even if praying gave you the willpower to not tell him he was a retard, it doesnt change the fact that living under delusion is not a good idea. 12. On January 02 2010 19:10 IdrA wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2010 16:28 AzureEye wrote: On January 02 2010 02:32 okum wrote: For those who claim that TvZ imbalanced: the combined TvZ win rate for this season's OSL, MSL and Proleague games so far is 52.8% if you count Flash's games and 46.3% if you don't. Essentially, Flash is single-handedly responsible for the balance of this matchup right now. If anything, TvZ is very slightly zerg favored at the moment and any terran nerfing would make the matchup impossible for everyone except Flash. The big question is whether other terrans can rise to Flash's level? Given how a number of zergs almost caught up with Jaedong in 2009, I wouldn't call it impossible. But they better get on it soon. Looking at just this season's data doesn't mean anything. You have to look at the bigger picture, look at the entire 10 years of TvZ. Because metagame will always evolve. And Terrans have raped Zergs in the past, the rape is just temporarily gone for now From looking at how long Zergs have been getting dominated, despite their new ways to change up the game by creating new styles, Zergs have never dominated Terrans for as long as Terrans have dominated Zergs. Unless Blizzard miraculously decides to change the actual units or gameplay of Terran and Zerg, TvZ will always remain imbalanced. That imbalance is reduced when a better Zerg player (i.e. Jaedong) plays a Terran or a map that heavily favors Zerg but it will always be there. This is why players like Effort or JD have to fight uphill battles vs. Terrans ya lets look at statistics from before muta micro and hive abuse to determine modern balance! that makes perfect sense! zergs used to do badly because their innovators came later than the terran's. nada and oov showed t's relatively modern tvz years before savior/ggplay/jaedong came and fixed zvt. looking at statistics from pre-muta micro and pre-hive abuse games in order to talk about current zvt is fucking retarded. and theres absolutely no reason to assume the metagame will swing back in terrans favor as the improvements in zvt are not something fragile or counterable, theyre solid improvements in general gameplay that will not go away. its like terran going from one base openings to fe. people just got flat out better at the matchup. 13. On December 26 2009 21:19 IdrA wrote: just when it seemed that foreign fans might not be as retarded as koreans well done 14. On December 05 2009 18:12 IdrA wrote: are you retarded or something 15. On December 15 2009 10:23 IdrA wrote: trying to tame a retard usually doesnt work out that well steve 16. On December 24 2009 20:08 IdrA wrote: Show nested quote + On December 24 2009 20:05 VabuDeltaKaiser wrote: On December 24 2009 20:02 nebffa wrote: One player cheesing doesn't make it obvious that the other player is better... it might suggest it, but correlation doesn't imply causality. sadly it happens to so many people cannot understand the meaning of that, its painful but in that case it is causality, not correlation. its not absolute but cheese is, by nature, risky. this makes it a far better choice to cheese someone whos better than you. if you do a coinflip cheese someone who you can hold a 70% win rate vs you're pretty retarded, while taking a 50/50 vs someone you'd normally go 30% vs is a pretty good choice. psychology messes with all that but in general playing vs a better player does cause someone to cheese. 17. On December 17 2009 17:05 IdrA wrote: ya, freewinning is impossible to detect if the players arent retarded about it 18. On December 13 2009 12:36 IdrA wrote: because theyre retards 19. that guys kinda retarded but you really cant go by stats, any stats, because theyre all subject to so much skewing in every way that its impossible to look at them objectively. all of those maps are definitely solidly p favored vs t. 20. On September 16 2009 04:45 IdrA wrote: octzerg did not win a game vs me are you retarded? zerglings did beat me, but octzerg had no part in that game 21. On May 18 2009 09:22 IdrA wrote: Show nested quote + Has Idra posted yet? For all I know, he was planning on playing me today. Since the admins didn't confirm this, my mindset was to play Idra today, and then play the rest of the tourney when Day's matches finished tomorrow. TT1, you are trying to prove how dumb you are, but you have nothing left to prove. Go away, man. I already told WCG that I want this to be rescheduled, I don't see what your problem is.Honestly, you are annoying and pointless. are you fucking retarded? we both agree to reschedule. BUT we're still gonna play our match at a seperate time. just for kicks. fucking pussy. you're a terrible player desperate for a freewin. stop hiding behind the other bullshit. of course wcg has no clue whats going on. they never do. all 4 players agreed to reschedule, and then you show up and take a freewin. go fuck yourself you little piece of shit. 22. On June 02 2009 11:04 IdrA wrote: haha ya but the difference is you're fucking retarded and i didnt try to jew you out of a tournament. 23. im not even sure how to respond to that stop being retarded please 24. On April 22 2009 05:33 Mutalisk wrote: Show nested quote + On April 20 2009 10:06 CapO wrote: pj's win ratio has always been about 50% since the pgtour era. i think this guy is at his limit from improving anymore... lol pure talent > mass practice gg The average level is not the same as before, it has improved A LOT. PJ has improved a lot like everybody, however his win ratio is 50% because he is a Top gamer but not one of the best top gamers. And at the level starcraft is right now there is no talent anymore. All there is is hard work, and you can have all the amount of possible talent but if you don't fight hard you won't get a shit. are you talking about foreigners or koreans? cuz he certainly is one of the best foreigners and scoffing at 50% win A is fucking retarded theres lots of progamers who arent capable of that at this point in the season. 25. On August 09 2009 15:21 IdrA wrote: read chills post in the front page thread ya he hosted the tournament, that doesnt really mean he can do whatever the fuck he wants when the iccup admins do dumbass shit like banning entire cities to catch one hacker everyones on their ass, and they say that theyre providing a service for free everyone just laughs at how stupid an excuse that is. hes not as bad as them, but its the same scenario. if he thinks im an idiot thats fine, but by staying in the game, and continually talking to me while im playing, hes making his tournament less good. seems rather retarded to me. 26. On June 20 2009 01:57 IdrA wrote: the bunker and constant marines kills your +1 and barracks timings. muta harass is ridiculously strong on medusa, but at 6/3 you can go 1 rax ebay-> 3 rax asap meaning you're much better prepared for the mutas than on a normal map, so it balances out. if you cant do that the mutas are retardedly strong. and mech is not good on medusa. 27. On June 21 2009 00:32 IdrA wrote: are all iccup admins retarded? seems to be a bit of a trend 28. On June 27 2009 10:22 IdrA wrote: Show nested quote + you havent gotten to see his current performanceOn June 27 2009 10:14 Tom Phoenix wrote: On June 27 2009 04:41 GHOSTCLAW wrote: On June 27 2009 04:35 Tom Phoenix wrote: I would not say that he is bad, it is just that his play is outdated. I feel like players such as Boxer and Yellow never really got used to the macro play of modern times, hence the reason why they are performing so poorly. Unfortunately for Boxer fans, like with Yellow, I feel that Boxer will never recover from the state he is currently in for the rest of his progaming career. that's what people said about boxer after the first transition to the macro age "oh he'll never make it, he's too much of a micro based player". Granted, he still lost to oov, but...(there was a tfle, but I can't think of it at the moment. Perhaps so, but his current plays have been more remiscent to the metagame of the past then the metagame of the present, hence why he failed to qualify for any major event. Let me put it this way. Boxer has been back to SKT1 since late last year. He has had enough time to practice, enough time to get used to the scene, enough time to prove himself....yet, he has not shown any results. Unlike JulyZerg, he did not adapt and then take his Golden Mouse. For all the praise Boxer gets for being so adaptable, his current performance is remiscent to how he performed in ACE. This shows that it was never ACE that held back his performance. So if he is getting enough practice and has good practice partners, what else is there? The only remaining option is that his gameplay in general is faulty and not up to standards. Unless he changes that, he will never recover from the state he is currently in. there have been 2? offline qualifiers since he got back, and he made group finals in at least one of them. theres a bunch of proleague caliber players who didnt make it that far. as for proleague, hes on skt, and theyre in the playoff hunt, no one expected him to come back and outperform best bisu and fantasy. ya, hes not gonna win another starleague, but calling boxer of all people unadaptive is just retarded. he made 2 starleague finals well after the macro revolution. 29. On July 13 2009 23:55 IdrA wrote: Show nested quote + On July 13 2009 23:48 Musoeun wrote: On July 13 2009 23:26 IdrA wrote: On July 13 2009 23:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: On July 13 2009 22:16 SuperArc wrote: wow, zerg heavy CJ is thumbing down God's Garden o.o God's Garden is a tough map for zerg against really strong terrans. have you ever made a post that isnt wrong? Well, it's an easy assumption to make just looking at the stats - 13-13 in the MU according to tlpd. Doing a little more poking around, it's 10-10 in Proleague, and the only qualifier is that most of the Zergs who lost are bad-to-mediorce Zergs playing decent-to-good Terrans. So I'd say yes, GG can pose some problems (for a bad Zerg?) against a strong Terran - it's a Zerg-favored map, not a Zerg auto-win map (Battle Royale what?). which is why its utterly retarded to try to judge anything off stats, especially a 26 game pool its massively z favored. ya if ptak plays against flash its gonna seem pretty tough zvt. not otherwise. 30. On March 12 2009 21:18 IdrA wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2009 17:26 SkepTicAL wrote: On March 12 2009 12:07 IdrA wrote: On March 11 2009 21:56 StylishVODs wrote: Seems like a good build. Try it on andromeda, medusa is mostly good for mechbuilds and 14 cc etc imo. eh andromeda isnt so great for any kind of timing push because of the free min only and the massive push distances. sea's tvz on andro is the best ive seen, all of the styles he plays on it. better to just mimic him. (actually i think i remember him timing pushing vs yarnc, but it failed. dont mimic that game) of the current active maps tau cross and rushhour and harmony are good for a 3 rax 1 vessel timing push medusa and desti require gimmicky shit, 2 rax tech is freewin on chupung and colo is kinda weird in general. STOP ACTING NICE, ITS NOT LIKE YOU! NICE POST ZERGLING ;D! SAY HI TO DAZ FOR MEEEEEE! are you retarded or something? 31. On June 01 2009 15:46 IdrA wrote: the reason no one plays zotac cups is cuz the admins are fucking retarded and they dont actually pay. they promised the money would be received within 4 weeks, but neither me nor ret has been paid yet and its been 5-6 weeks for us. 32. On June 02 2009 02:50 IdrA wrote: Show nested quote + On June 02 2009 01:40 ParasitJonte wrote: On May 30 2009 14:49 IdrA wrote: On May 30 2009 14:37 Hippopotamus wrote: You know I'm leaning toward this being outrageous. Now scientology is a pretty fucked up 'religion' and it has some extreme, terrorist-like stances like Fair Game which essentially states that enemies have no rights within the scientology ethical framework. This is pretty bad since an enemy is anyone that tries to oppose the spread of this religion. But banning all Scientology IPs is pretty bad. I mean, other than being scientologists, these people could be perfeclty intelligent citizens capable of contributing to various wikipedia articles on other topics. yep people who devote their lives to a religion created by a science fiction writer are often perfectly intelligent and not crazy at all yep people who devote their lives to a religion created by some delerious poor people 2000 years ago are often perfectly intelligent and not crazy at all. the way people judge things is strongly affected by the culture theyre raised in. western culture has decided that the zombie jew who was born to a virgin and who wants us to eat his body via crackers is rationally acceptable. this makes it much easier for people to accept. but ask any non scientologist and theyre gonna tell you its a load of bullshit. that makes it much harder to get roped into, meaning the followers are much more likely to be retarded. 33. On May 31 2009 05:11 LaughingTulkas wrote: Oh, and I realize there is a lot of antipathy towards Christians on this board. I'm going ahead and putting myself out there. I hope there's a least some people who are willing to listen, even if I'm clearly a minority. you're not a minority, just delusional or retarded. theres lots of people like that. how exactly do you have an active relationship with god? 34. On April 08 2009 11:59 IdrA wrote: congrats on only being half retarded 35. On April 05 2009 14:06 IdrA wrote: no i mean the worst kind to play against, the most dangerous cuz theyre utterly fucking retarded and know absolutely nothing about the game, that combined with protoss units is a very scary mixture. its like playing vs fenix, except even dumber. 36. On April 26 2009 13:45 IdrA wrote: wheres that retard that said really is bad tvp 37. On March 19 2009 21:06 IdrA wrote: indeed. everyone is not the same. treating them as such would be retarded. the rule is there to prevent abusing. jf wasnt abusing and obviously does not need help getting through D. 38. On April 02 2009 17:48 IdrA wrote: Show nested quote + On April 02 2009 16:07 Carnac wrote: I made ban of the week, I'm famous now. Awesome. was a retarded ass ban congrats that guy clearly was illiterate and clearly did need to shut the fuck up 39. On March 31 2009 20:49 IdrA wrote: since when is proxy gate on desti brilliant or unique? its practically the standard and theres nothing brilliant about it, you're just fucking retarded if you dont use it since its pretty much a guaranteed advantage. 40. On March 21 2009 15:41 IdrA wrote: you're clueless starleague success is really good for a team as well and the coaching staff/management is not stupid. or if they are they have oov to explain it to them. fantasy's greatest strength is that hes smart and he prepares well for matches. that style does not serve you well in proleague where you have little preparation and lots of matches vs generic, lesser known players. starleagues are where you can prepare well and where that kind of player truly shines. he does not blow off proleague, he is just not well suited for that. hating him for that while he brings you consecutive silver medals and the recognition that comes with it would be fucking retarded. 41. On March 19 2009 14:01 IdrA wrote: Show nested quote + On March 19 2009 13:37 Avidkeystamper wrote: On March 19 2009 13:10 IdrA wrote: zerg players help more because they subconciously realize they are pathetic little girls for playing a race with a unit with infinite mana that can make you invincible and make all of your opponents units die in one hit. as such they crave reassurement that they are not utter failures at life, and so try to justify their existence by helping others. terrans are manly men and have no such weak constitution. If it weren't for zerg in the first sentence, you could switch that to terran and we'd all be thinking Sci Vessels. a sci vessel is like a defilers retarded little sister no infinite mana kills one unit instead of killing as many as you want might take away a unit's mana if you guess which way the unit is gonna move and judge relative speeds correctly 42. On March 19 2009 11:31 IdrA wrote: and yes the dark swarm mechanic is retarded however its too late to do anything about it because zerg would be fucked without it. ideally blizzard would have made zergs lair tech units stronger, because as is you fight with them all game on them and switching immediately to ultras costs too much and leaves a timing window, so z has to depend on swarm to survive. but seriously, just look at it from an outside perspective. a spell that guarantees that you cant attack something for however long its duration is? it allows for exceedingly slow, boring games. watch any zvt xiaozi has ever played. 43. On March 19 2009 12:13 IdrA wrote: Show nested quote + On March 19 2009 12:06 StRyKeR wrote: On March 19 2009 12:04 IdrA wrote: i think leaving the game carries that message quite sufficiently... well, if we're talking about the games I played, it's clear handy knew the purpose of the gg, seeing as how he used it second game to rub it in my face but knowing that the community at large equates gg with good manners, you're just asking for it by not saying gg if 95% of people you talk to expect you to look into their eyes while you're talking, you don't deserve sympathy if you don't and they don't trust you for it im not really defending him, from the little interaction ive had hes a little dick just saying the obessesion with saying gg in general is kinda retarded. 44. On March 19 2009 12:23 IdrA wrote: Show nested quote + On March 19 2009 12:21 StRyKeR wrote: On March 19 2009 12:14 IdrA wrote: On March 19 2009 12:11 Nytefish wrote: Just don't attach so much meaning to gg. No one's going to say "loool he said gg that proves i pwned him!!!". But they wil say "omg no gg BM!!" wouldnt it be the people bitching about not saying gg who are attaching undue amounts of meaning to it then? and i was just arguing about it from the respect thing because thats the most common justification i see for it so you don't say gg when you think the other player played a gamble strategy that basically relied on one fault in your strategy well, are you ever really sure that happened, Idra? I'd be sure, but AFTER watching the replay. Often times, the other player is playing as legitimately as he knows how, practicing a lot, getting feedback, preparing it. Especially in this case, I felt bad-manner from Handy because I was trying my hardest to win in a way I knew how, not thinking of doing an all-in strategy and "getting away" with a win. Is there no benefit of the doubt in Handy's mind, or is it just an assumption to assume that he'd been had? Sometimes they go out of their way to LOOK for your weaknesses -- is respect really undeserved in that case? Me analyzing your replays and finding a weakness and making a risky bo to counter it? this is all theoretical, when i dont gg its cuz im pissed i lost however i still believe what i said and that the requirement of saying gg is retarded. 45. On March 19 2009 23:12 IdrA wrote: what did i say that implied i dont understand why theyre big on saying gg? i do think the whole respect to elders no matter what thing is utterly retarded, but i understand the rationale behind it. i said i do gg to the koreans after all. 46. On March 16 2009 22:04 Kwark wrote: Show nested quote + On March 16 2009 21:21 IdrA wrote: On March 16 2009 20:04 Kwark wrote: On March 16 2009 19:55 IdrA wrote: On March 16 2009 19:42 Kwark wrote: On March 16 2009 19:05 IdrA wrote: On March 16 2009 18:53 Kwark wrote: It always amuses me how bghers have pride. not everyone has the skill the be a cheesy protoss. And those that don't pick terran and whine about it. On a related note Greg, do you think you would have qualified for a starleague by now if you played Protoss? i dunno about a starleague but i would be 'better' (able to win more) than i am now as terran So what you're saying is that before each game you sit there and think "yeah, I'll handicap myself, winning games is for losers" and then pick Terran? And then you blame Protoss players for not doing the same? How does that work? Surely then, by picking Terran you're getting it wrong and by the same token they're getting it right with Protoss. Complaining to people that they keep outsmarting you on the race selection option is almost as silly as maintaining that you were too good to beat an awful build. It's hardly their fault. If you're after a handicap couldn't you just play Protoss and kill one of your starting probes or not use dragoons or something? what im saying is if id had almost a year of practice in a pro team with protoss thatd be the case, obviously my terran is currently better than my protoss. they wouldnt allow a race switch. before i came to korea i did indeed switch over to pvt a month or 2 before wcg usa. was 1 game from getting out of an all terran group in wcg usa on 2 months of practice. definitely a tough race to play. Care to explain why Terrans have historically always done far better than Protoss players? Are all Terran's just naturally gifted far beyond the abilities of any Protoss player? If so, do the more gifted individuals somehow all choose Terran in order to give the appearance of balance or does the act of choosing Terran somehow make them superhuman? obviously its because certain players happened to choose terran protoss raped everything for like 2 seasons after bisu showed all the other retards that the 3 best harass units in the game and the fastest transport in the game make a pretty fuckin good combo. terran has not historically done well. nada oov and boxer have historically done well. 47. On February 15 2009 09:27 IdrA wrote: Show nested quote + so then we're back to predestination for the sinners. On February 15 2009 06:54 TechniQ.UK wrote: dont care where the power lies. however you yourself have said that god is just. what is just about choosing at random who he saves? if it is not at random, how are the decisions made? you have said that it is irrelevant if the criminal is repentant. its only decided by gods will. well, what decides gods will? - Idra - He doesn't make them at random, how he makes the decision is unknown to everyone and the bible. As for it being irrelevant if the criminal repents or not. Well no what I'm saying is the criminal will never truely repent unless God has something to do with it. E.g. sending a preacher filled with the Holy Spirit or in his divine providence having a bible open somewhere or having a gospel tract in sight. if the criminal cant repent without god choosing them, they dont have control over their own fate. you explicitly said last post that sinners and unbelievers are left to their own devices and only believers are predestined. which is it? Show nested quote + Free will does exist but man is born with a sinful nature ever since Adam and eve made the free will decision to disobey God, but where his will is against ours I think that he according to his most gracious council will change our wills ever so subtly. So no God is not in control of everyone at every moment forcing them to do his will. Man has free will which he uses to sin against God constantly, (just look at the 10 commandments, if your outside of Christ your in disobedience to the first commandment every second of your life) until God saves a person from their own nature after the Holy Spirit works through the foolishness of preaching and the sinner repents and believes. That's why christianity is not rule following, rule following says that you follow these rules and you'll go to heaven by your own will and power, the bible says give up on your own righteousness which is actually filthy rags in the sight of God and trust in the righteousness of another, God the son himself, Jesus Christ and trust in him alone. how did adam and eve disobeying (just eve actually, iirc) god make me sinful? i had no control over what they did. how can i be held responsible? (could you actually answer this this time? ive asked it like 3 or 4 times) if god can change our will we do not have free will. thats pretty obvious, it doesnt matter how much he chooses to exert his influence, as long as he does choose to exert it some of the time. also you dropped the 'only exerts it on believers' argument in your last paragraph when you said sinners cant repent without 'god having something to do with it' so obviously he does affect the will of sinners as well. as for the rest of that, isnt that fucking retarded? why is it more important to believe in jesus and god than to be good people? Show nested quote + As for predestination it only concerns the believers, I already told you he lets the sinners get on with it and no where in his word did he say the little girl was under his divine protection? At the end of the day if you say that God was under obligation to stop the rape of the little girl, is he also obligated to save people from dying? Theft? is he obligated to stop murder? He was able and willing to do all these things until sin happened with adam and eve. Ever since then, he has no obligation to do anything for people who are born sinners because when adam and eve fell man became corrupted by sin. It may seem harsh but at the end of the day it would be a lot lot worse if God wasn't sovereignly restraining the majority of evil in this world. why would the little girl have to be under his divine protection? lets assume shes 'under the age of culpability' or whatever you said, so by christian standards shes innocent, since she'll go to heaven. why should an innocent little girl suffer and die when god (a good, kind, loving god) has the power and the willingness (as shown by the fact that you admit he does alter people's wills, even sinners) to prevent it? remember, god is omnicient and omnipresent and everything else, its not like he just didnt see her getting raped. he is obligated by the fact that, as you have said, hes a good kind loving god. such a god would not want his creations to suffer. and yet he allows them to suffer quite a bit. doesnt really make sense? how does what adam and eve did affect me? is god a spiteful little child or something? some woman ate an apple so now, even though he loves us all greatly, he doesnt give a fuck what happens to us, the people he created? Show nested quote + As for the atonement of Jesus. Jesus wasn't effective because the romans made him suffer on a cross. Jesus Christ took the guilt of our sin upon himself on the cross, took the sins of me upon him. At that moment it said that the land went dark for 3 hours, later Jesus cried out my God my God why have you forsaken me? Do you know why? Jesus who took my sin upon that cross, suffered the pure wrath of God upon that cross for every sin I've ever committed that would of fallen on me if I had died and went to hell. what does that even mean? 'took the sins' jesus has nothing to do with you. if you commit a sin, you commit a sin. that makes you, in some ways, a bad person, you have still caused harm to another person. you dont deserve to be punished for that? Show nested quote + See if God is just there needs to be a punishment to sin, so the only way I'm going to get forgiveness of sins is if someone else takes that punishment from God the Father. That's where Jesus comes in, the only pure man, the only perfectly Holy Lamb of God who could make the perfect atonement for sins because he himself was absolutely pure. why does someone else taking punishment atone for your sins? YOU are the one who sinned, you are the one who should be punished. someone else being punished MAKES NO SENSE Show nested quote + Romans 8:33 Who shall bring any charge against God’s elect? It is God who justifies. Who is to condemn? Christ Jesus is the one who died—more than that, who was raised— who is at the right hand of God,who indeed is interceding for us. This verse shows 1) no one can lay guilt of sin at the feet of the elect (those in Christ) because the price of their sin and the punishment has all been paid in full by Christ. no. it hasnt. if they did something wrong then they are bad people unless they have done something to atone for it. christ dying does nothing to change that. Show nested quote + they should be condemned. they did something bad. the only way society works is for bad people to be punished. 2) They cannot be condemned and God will not condemn them because it is christ who died on that cross in our place as a propitiation. next time you post please respond properly, the way ive been doing. all you're doing is posting half sermons that arent actually aimed at anything and are full of utter non sense. break my post up into sections and quote and specifically respond to each one. you're ignoring half my points and arent actually addressing anything you do talk about. and once again why is man born evil? dont say because of adam and eve, that is not a why. what has each individual person done to deserve to be born a sinner? 48. On February 19 2009 10:52 IdrA wrote: i dont know if theyve explained it but its an acronym for something, the blue guys always write MULEs when they talk about it does sound pretty retarded though actually only cydra caps it like that, karune doesnt who knows 49. On February 26 2009 16:18 IdrA wrote: no its not that theyre sandy vaginas anyone who thinks theyre too far behind cuz of 3 months of beta testing is fucking retarded, and fucking retarded people dont tend to be very valuable for anything. 50. On February 26 2009 16:47 IdrA wrote: Show nested quote + On February 26 2009 16:27 inReacH wrote: On February 26 2009 16:18 IdrA wrote: no its not that theyre sandy vaginas anyone who thinks theyre too far behind cuz of 3 months of beta testing is fucking retarded, and fucking retarded people dont tend to be very valuable for anything. Dude.. no.. You say that because you know and have many examples of that kind of thing being overcome all around you all the time. You don't have to be so critical to people for misjudging something that is so obvious to you. Have you ever heard people talking about missing the boat on poker and that's why they aren't interested? Well it's the same thing, yes it could be overcome but it's a certain degree harder and everyone's threshold is somewhere. I agree with you that it's dumb to think that way but that doesn't make them retarded or reduce the validity of their potential competitive goals. ? 3 months of a TESTING PHASE. if that holds a 'competitive player' back from a game thats gonna be the biggest thing esports has ever seen then yes, they are literally retarded. if you mean people who might eventually become competitive players, but arent now, why would they care about a head start if they arent already interested in playing competitively? Damnit, my page still had this question red. Sorry about that. | ||
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site:teamliquid.net ". posts: 10000..20000" That let me discover the 10K-20K posters. site:teamliquid.net staff roster That led me to the cached version of the starred users... but even if it hadn't, I would have been able to find a search trick to find the stars, I think. | ||
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A long shot, but it appeared under a picture with the heading 'Multiple Armbands'. and a Venn diagram with 3 sets: (http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Hot_Bid/indexed/090708_PRdikembe.jpg) Further underneath is a picture of Puertorican himself. http://joeybaker.com/sitebuilder/images/wifebeater-303x517.jpg | ||
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