• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:57
CEST 07:57
KST 14:57
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Evil Geniuses - shutting down10ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier5Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League53Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.165
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.16 REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Evil Geniuses - shutting down How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event WORTEX Challenger Series — Open SC2 LAN in Budapes
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 548 Shining Bright The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train
Brood War
General
Do we even care about balance? [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos Rollback Netcode in Brood War BW General Discussion Young Players Tournament Announced by SOOP
Tourneys
[ASL22] Grand Finals [$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL23] RO24 Group Stage
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Armies of Exigo - YesYes? Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Chess Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
How Much Genes Contribute to…
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7654 users

ESL TV Starcraft 2 Pro-Invite Cup - Page 15

Forum Index > SC2 General
482 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 13 14 15 16 17 25 Next All
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 19 2010 19:23 GMT
#281
what a sweet micro by nazgul there :D stupid to not tech to hydras though.
DeMusliM
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom401 Posts
March 19 2010 19:23 GMT
#282
holy fuck, nice by nazgul
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
March 19 2010 19:23 GMT
#283
On March 20 2010 04:17 LaLuSh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2010 04:02 MorroW wrote:
On March 20 2010 04:00 cyclone25 wrote:
So how do you know the terran is going banshees, other than guessing? Scouting is hard, since the ramp is blocked, and ovies don't have any speed till lair. Going spore crawlers without scouting the banshees, is risky because he can marine/marauder push you -_-

he just need to get lair relatively fast, the distance will allow him to survive against any attack easily

he can just pool,hatch,queen,lair,baneling nest,hydra nest and he will survive against anything

obviously he should just do this tech tree if he scouts no expo from t with the lings

u can just peak into the terran base with the overlord if he wanted, 1 marine or something by then by the wallin, no chance to kill it before it gets out again


I don't think I have ever seen you do a hellion opening morrow (I'm sure you've tried it sometime, but not extensively). A zerg can't be too greedy teching or the hellions will do irreversible damage. It's a guessing game of sorts for the Z. That's why at first I had such trouble playing against you. My mind set was too defensive from playing blind against all these gay hellion variation builds without being able to scout shit. Nowadays when I'm not able to scout you I just guess you're FE:ing (and it usually turns out to be right).

On a related note, I don't think I have ever seen lucifron not do a hellion opening. So against him I guess he's gonna do hellion every game. The hard part is knowing whether he transitions into an expo, banshees, or keeps pumping hellions. You basically gotta guess. If you don't guess right you're either too far behind on economy, too far behind on tech, or you have too few units to be able to defend.

u just scout fast with drone
terran no gas =expo or mass rax
terran get gas = 1base

and from this intel u chose if u go evo chamber for +1armor(counter vs terran fe) and start massling baneling and if he 1base u get lair skip the evo chamber and get hydra den as soon as the lair is done

ur lings r outside him so ull know whenever he moves out

if he moves out with an army of MMM u can start massling baneling and if he move out with hellions u just keep making hydra roach

its ridiculously imbalanced and its harder for terran to scout compared to zerg in the midgame because of ur creep tumors changelings and overseers mapcontrol of xel naga towers
seriously lalush i get ur point, i didnt change up my play too much and i think u might be right here. but coming here and saying u have to play a guess game as a zerg well guess what - zerg beat all builds with same build cause they r imba
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Nevius
Profile Joined February 2010
Switzerland72 Posts
March 19 2010 19:23 GMT
#284
Wow Nazgul O_O
thOr6136
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Slovenia1775 Posts
March 19 2010 19:23 GMT
#285
woow, wooow, nice nazgul
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
March 19 2010 19:23 GMT
#286
Epic force field wall :D
mcJ
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark322 Posts
March 19 2010 19:23 GMT
#287
Force fields, sup?
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
March 19 2010 19:23 GMT
#288
sit in base sit in base sit in base attack one player has superior army gg
brood war for life, brood war forever
Fogul
Profile Joined July 2009
United Kingdom179 Posts
March 19 2010 19:23 GMT
#289
On March 20 2010 04:20 Dacendoran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2010 04:14 Fogul wrote:
wish the stream worked for me :/

http://www.justin.tv/dacendoran
I'm streaming the stream at the same quality that the low quality stream is (Obviously it's not exactly the same quality but I'm stream above the Kbps that the stream is so I don't lose too much of the quality)


ah nice thanks alot
searcher
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
277 Posts
March 19 2010 19:24 GMT
#290
On March 20 2010 04:22 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Sad that everyone will be like "Terran isn't underpowered" when LucifroNNN wins-_-

Yes I was trying to pre-empt that with my post above.
Viperskwa
Profile Joined July 2009
United States106 Posts
March 19 2010 19:24 GMT
#291
Sick shield wall. Omfg that was awesome. I really thought the zerg would be able to take that battle with just numbers but I'm in awe now.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 19 2010 19:24 GMT
#292
On March 20 2010 04:22 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Sad that everyone will be like "Terran isn't underpowered" when LucifroNNN wins-_-

Well Terran certainly don't have more problems than Protoss And LucifroNNNNN shows us that you don't have to go blindly M&M&M vs everything.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33723 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-19 19:26:38
March 19 2010 19:24 GMT
#293
Gogo Naz :D

On March 20 2010 04:22 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Sad that everyone will be like "Terran isn't underpowered" when LucifroNNN wins-_-

Then you'll be happy to know that Naz is going to win this ;p
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
March 19 2010 19:25 GMT
#294
damn that was some PRO toss playing. Very, very good player.
<3 Moonbattles
DeMusliM
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom401 Posts
March 19 2010 19:26 GMT
#295
On March 20 2010 04:24 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2010 04:22 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Sad that everyone will be like "Terran isn't underpowered" when LucifroNNN wins-_-

Well Terran certainly don't have more problems than Protoss And LucifroNNNNN shows us that you don't have to go blindly M&M&M vs everything.


while lucifron played smarter than his oppo, what happens when people don't make silly mistakes vs this style of play?
Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
March 19 2010 19:28 GMT
#296
On March 20 2010 04:23 Crunchums wrote:
sit in base sit in base sit in base attack one player has superior army gg



lol this was not that case at all. The Zerg clearly had the counter to all those immortals/sentries.


HOWEVER, the Toss obviously used a bit of innovation in creating a 5 force field wall making all those speedlings useless while he destroyed the roaches.

It had nothing to do with him having a 'superior army'

It had everything to do with him having a superior strategy.
<3 Moonbattles
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
March 19 2010 19:31 GMT
#297
I LOVE this wall off Nazgul did, so smart!
KTY
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 19 2010 19:31 GMT
#298
lol so clever play by nazgul
Obbalord
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany166 Posts
March 19 2010 19:32 GMT
#299
gogo nazgul! Lucifron and Nazgul are both nice gamers, looking forward watching the finals :>

They are both sympathic guys too, not like Morrow who is a 17 year old kid instantly whining in these forums after he drop out of a tourney and talking about "imbalances" because he lost with his 20 minutes turtle-until-200 trash style. Freaking Moron.

NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
March 19 2010 19:33 GMT
#300
On March 20 2010 04:24 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Gogo Naz :D

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2010 04:22 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Sad that everyone will be like "Terran isn't underpowered" when LucifroNNN wins-_-

Then you'll be happy to know that Naz is going to win this ;p


Probably still cheering a bit more for Terran.. but aah its Nazugul. Ccc...an't resist!! Gogo Nazgul :D
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Prev 1 13 14 15 16 17 25 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 3m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft552
Nina 114
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 2730
GuemChi 1515
ProTech159
Dewaltoss 93
Horang2 63
Noble 27
Icarus 6
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm222
League of Legends
JimRising 625
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1016
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr46
Other Games
summit1g8241
Coldzera 757
C9.Mang0270
PiGStarcraft228
Livibee113
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick551
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 27
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2378
League of Legends
• Lourlo1223
• Rush1173
• Scarra1055
• Stunt474
Other Games
• Shiphtur590
Upcoming Events
IntoTheTV X SOOP
5h 3m
Reynor vs Zoun
Neeb vs Rogue
OSC
17h 3m
FEL
2 days
Patches Events
2 days
AI Arena Tournament
2 days
FEL
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
5 days
ByuN vs Lambo
MaxPax vs Bunny
[ Show More ]
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-20
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
IPSL Winter 2026-27
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Acropolis #5 - GSC
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.