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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 19 2010 19:23 GMT
#281
what a sweet micro by nazgul there :D stupid to not tech to hydras though.
DeMusliM
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom401 Posts
March 19 2010 19:23 GMT
#282
holy fuck, nice by nazgul
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
March 19 2010 19:23 GMT
#283
On March 20 2010 04:17 LaLuSh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2010 04:02 MorroW wrote:
On March 20 2010 04:00 cyclone25 wrote:
So how do you know the terran is going banshees, other than guessing? Scouting is hard, since the ramp is blocked, and ovies don't have any speed till lair. Going spore crawlers without scouting the banshees, is risky because he can marine/marauder push you -_-

he just need to get lair relatively fast, the distance will allow him to survive against any attack easily

he can just pool,hatch,queen,lair,baneling nest,hydra nest and he will survive against anything

obviously he should just do this tech tree if he scouts no expo from t with the lings

u can just peak into the terran base with the overlord if he wanted, 1 marine or something by then by the wallin, no chance to kill it before it gets out again


I don't think I have ever seen you do a hellion opening morrow (I'm sure you've tried it sometime, but not extensively). A zerg can't be too greedy teching or the hellions will do irreversible damage. It's a guessing game of sorts for the Z. That's why at first I had such trouble playing against you. My mind set was too defensive from playing blind against all these gay hellion variation builds without being able to scout shit. Nowadays when I'm not able to scout you I just guess you're FE:ing (and it usually turns out to be right).

On a related note, I don't think I have ever seen lucifron not do a hellion opening. So against him I guess he's gonna do hellion every game. The hard part is knowing whether he transitions into an expo, banshees, or keeps pumping hellions. You basically gotta guess. If you don't guess right you're either too far behind on economy, too far behind on tech, or you have too few units to be able to defend.

u just scout fast with drone
terran no gas =expo or mass rax
terran get gas = 1base

and from this intel u chose if u go evo chamber for +1armor(counter vs terran fe) and start massling baneling and if he 1base u get lair skip the evo chamber and get hydra den as soon as the lair is done

ur lings r outside him so ull know whenever he moves out

if he moves out with an army of MMM u can start massling baneling and if he move out with hellions u just keep making hydra roach

its ridiculously imbalanced and its harder for terran to scout compared to zerg in the midgame because of ur creep tumors changelings and overseers mapcontrol of xel naga towers
seriously lalush i get ur point, i didnt change up my play too much and i think u might be right here. but coming here and saying u have to play a guess game as a zerg well guess what - zerg beat all builds with same build cause they r imba
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Nevius
Profile Joined February 2010
Switzerland72 Posts
March 19 2010 19:23 GMT
#284
Wow Nazgul O_O
thOr6136
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Slovenia1774 Posts
March 19 2010 19:23 GMT
#285
woow, wooow, nice nazgul
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
March 19 2010 19:23 GMT
#286
Epic force field wall :D
mcJ
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark322 Posts
March 19 2010 19:23 GMT
#287
Force fields, sup?
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11143 Posts
March 19 2010 19:23 GMT
#288
sit in base sit in base sit in base attack one player has superior army gg
brood war for life, brood war forever
Fogul
Profile Joined July 2009
United Kingdom179 Posts
March 19 2010 19:23 GMT
#289
On March 20 2010 04:20 Dacendoran wrote:
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On March 20 2010 04:14 Fogul wrote:
wish the stream worked for me :/

http://www.justin.tv/dacendoran
I'm streaming the stream at the same quality that the low quality stream is (Obviously it's not exactly the same quality but I'm stream above the Kbps that the stream is so I don't lose too much of the quality)


ah nice thanks alot
searcher
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
277 Posts
March 19 2010 19:24 GMT
#290
On March 20 2010 04:22 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Sad that everyone will be like "Terran isn't underpowered" when LucifroNNN wins-_-

Yes I was trying to pre-empt that with my post above.
Viperskwa
Profile Joined July 2009
United States106 Posts
March 19 2010 19:24 GMT
#291
Sick shield wall. Omfg that was awesome. I really thought the zerg would be able to take that battle with just numbers but I'm in awe now.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 19 2010 19:24 GMT
#292
On March 20 2010 04:22 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Sad that everyone will be like "Terran isn't underpowered" when LucifroNNN wins-_-

Well Terran certainly don't have more problems than Protoss And LucifroNNNNN shows us that you don't have to go blindly M&M&M vs everything.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-19 19:26:38
March 19 2010 19:24 GMT
#293
Gogo Naz :D

On March 20 2010 04:22 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Sad that everyone will be like "Terran isn't underpowered" when LucifroNNN wins-_-

Then you'll be happy to know that Naz is going to win this ;p
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
March 19 2010 19:25 GMT
#294
damn that was some PRO toss playing. Very, very good player.
<3 Moonbattles
DeMusliM
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom401 Posts
March 19 2010 19:26 GMT
#295
On March 20 2010 04:24 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2010 04:22 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Sad that everyone will be like "Terran isn't underpowered" when LucifroNNN wins-_-

Well Terran certainly don't have more problems than Protoss And LucifroNNNNN shows us that you don't have to go blindly M&M&M vs everything.


while lucifron played smarter than his oppo, what happens when people don't make silly mistakes vs this style of play?
Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
March 19 2010 19:28 GMT
#296
On March 20 2010 04:23 Crunchums wrote:
sit in base sit in base sit in base attack one player has superior army gg



lol this was not that case at all. The Zerg clearly had the counter to all those immortals/sentries.


HOWEVER, the Toss obviously used a bit of innovation in creating a 5 force field wall making all those speedlings useless while he destroyed the roaches.

It had nothing to do with him having a 'superior army'

It had everything to do with him having a superior strategy.
<3 Moonbattles
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
March 19 2010 19:31 GMT
#297
I LOVE this wall off Nazgul did, so smart!
KTY
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 19 2010 19:31 GMT
#298
lol so clever play by nazgul
Obbalord
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany166 Posts
March 19 2010 19:32 GMT
#299
gogo nazgul! Lucifron and Nazgul are both nice gamers, looking forward watching the finals :>

They are both sympathic guys too, not like Morrow who is a 17 year old kid instantly whining in these forums after he drop out of a tourney and talking about "imbalances" because he lost with his 20 minutes turtle-until-200 trash style. Freaking Moron.

NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
March 19 2010 19:33 GMT
#300
On March 20 2010 04:24 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Gogo Naz :D

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2010 04:22 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Sad that everyone will be like "Terran isn't underpowered" when LucifroNNN wins-_-

Then you'll be happy to know that Naz is going to win this ;p


Probably still cheering a bit more for Terran.. but aah its Nazugul. Ccc...an't resist!! Gogo Nazgul :D
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
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