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Error Ash
Profile Joined July 2008
Germany177 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-19 20:30:21
March 05 2010 17:44 GMT
#1
Hi,

i don't know if this has been mentioned before, but i found a way to stack Mutalisks and keep them stacked stationary. You just have to select all Mutas and spam right click right below them until they are all stacked together. Then you use the patrol button and left click on the same spot you right clicked all the time and the Mutas will keep stacked. They will also attack anything that comes close, but i couldn't figure out a way to keep them perfectly stacked while moving

I included a video, they look like some kind of flower when you stack 100 of them =)


Stationary Mutalisk stacking

Greetz
Error Ash


Edit:
Wow, finally SlayerSBoxeR himself found a way to put this to use:

GomTV GSL2 - SlayerSBoxeR vs Happiness - Game 1

Really cool, never thought of that. Do you guys think this is a viable technique in TvT Viking fights (or maybe even in other MUs)?
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
March 05 2010 17:50 GMT
#2
That look so pretty! If only we could find a use for something like that now xD
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Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
March 05 2010 17:52 GMT
#3
hmmm what happens if you quickly after stacking rightclick somewhere then really fast patrol at that possition ?
zOula...
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States898 Posts
March 05 2010 17:54 GMT
#4
I believe you can group them with an overlord, as in sc1, and they will stack while moving around. I didnt know about the stacking while stationary tho. cool!
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-05 18:09:26
March 05 2010 17:54 GMT
#5
im gonna try out some if its possible to stack up, attack, stack fly back while stacking and keep doing

damn muta micro might work but its gonna take so damn much more apm if this method works lol

edit: ok i tested, doesnt work, as soon as they start attack or move they just spread out rly quickly, like when u stack 20 drones on a mineral and they all spread in like 0.5 sec
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
March 05 2010 18:00 GMT
#6
On March 06 2010 02:54 MorroW wrote:
im gonna try out some if its possible to stack up, attack, stack fly back while stacking and keep doing

damn muta micro might work but its gonna take so damn much more apm if this method works lol


A lot of people are complaining that this game is too automated and requires low apm. If muta micro is possible but more difficult that would be awesome because it would be a real showing of elite play whereas bw muta play has become something most everyone who puts in a few hours of effort can do.
NeoLearner
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Belgium1847 Posts
March 05 2010 18:28 GMT
#7
What happens when you do this on top of an opponents base and press hold pos? Looks nice though
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
March 05 2010 18:33 GMT
#8
You embed by just posting the link Edited it for you.
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Antimage
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1293 Posts
March 05 2010 18:44 GMT
#9
Plz dont tell the world, zerg needs a nerf not an improvement -.-
Error Ash
Profile Joined July 2008
Germany177 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-05 19:00:46
March 05 2010 18:53 GMT
#10
Thanks FA

Well i don't think this can be used as an advantage, by stacking them this way you can only get 1 shot off before they start unstacking, so you can only shoot stacked while standing still (or moving only very slowly) :/
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
March 05 2010 18:56 GMT
#11
Its just patrolling, you can do that with everything. Even barracks can patrol ! Banshees vikings, every unit!
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Dav_
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary236 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-05 19:24:30
March 05 2010 19:18 GMT
#12
you can stack them you just need to click under your mutas like crazy:D

still processing so quality is low


i'm just attacking my own building so i can't just Amove. it's better vs real target
Aerox
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Malaysia1213 Posts
March 05 2010 19:30 GMT
#13
On March 06 2010 04:18 Dav_ wrote:
you can stack them you just need to click under your mutas like crazy:D

still processing so quality is low
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkk9OlNZCMs

i'm just attacking my own building so i can't just Amove. it's better vs real target

Mobility is horribly reduced.
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LCC
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada348 Posts
March 05 2010 19:30 GMT
#14
Yeah I did this behind an opponent's main mineral line with banshees in such a way that there was only one small space where ground units could defend from, from which they die instantly to the stack. I've been trying to find other uses for it in the past couple of days but haven't come up with much.
gaizka
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States991 Posts
March 05 2010 19:37 GMT
#15
The flower looks very nice.
waxypants
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States479 Posts
March 05 2010 19:50 GMT
#16
mmmmm storm
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
March 05 2010 21:09 GMT
#17
Interesting find with the patrol command :O
Asta
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany3491 Posts
March 05 2010 21:23 GMT
#18
On March 06 2010 04:18 Dav_ wrote:
you can stack them you just need to click under your mutas like crazy:D

still processing so quality is low


i'm just attacking my own building so i can't just Amove. it's better vs real target


The problem is that if you move them back and forth, they do this turn animation which makes them fly separate routes. Also they slow down to shoot, which especially sucks while following stuff.
Error Ash
Profile Joined July 2008
Germany177 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-19 20:30:09
October 19 2010 20:27 GMT
#19
Wow, finally SlayerSBoxeR himself found a way to put this to use:

GomTV GSL2 - SlayerSBoxeR vs Happiness - Game 1

Really cool, never thought of that. Do you guys think this is a viable technique in TvT Viking fights (or maybe even in other MUs)?
SolHeiM
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1264 Posts
October 19 2010 20:29 GMT
#20
Well yeah, obviously. It hides how many vikings you actually have.
gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
October 19 2010 20:31 GMT
#21
This is pretty common, especially in viking wars where you can assure that as soon as the opponent engages you, every single one of your vikings is in range DIRECTLY because of the stacking. Often causes them to lose the first viking and results in a slight edge.
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TzTz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany511 Posts
October 19 2010 20:31 GMT
#22
How is that new, people did that since beta... If you could actually move with it it would be useful against marines and so on. However with thor's splash stacking gets countered pretty badly.
Reason.SC2
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1047 Posts
October 19 2010 20:31 GMT
#23
If you ever do this and a thor or two get as hot off... goodnight
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
October 19 2010 20:32 GMT
#24
I have seen BratOK using this long ago with vikings actually.

For mutas I don't see any use of patrol stacking in real game. You can't move and you are very vulnerable to thors, fungal, storm etc..
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Error Ash
Profile Joined July 2008
Germany177 Posts
October 19 2010 20:34 GMT
#25
On October 20 2010 05:29 SolHeiM wrote:
Well yeah, obviously. It hides how many vikings you actually have.


Not only that, they will also shoot at the same time, one shotting anything that comes too close.
Error Ash
Profile Joined July 2008
Germany177 Posts
October 19 2010 20:35 GMT
#26
Ahh ok didn't know it has been used before. Never saw it and also Tasteless and Artosis seemed kinda surprised by that.
MoreFaSho
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1427 Posts
October 19 2010 20:36 GMT
#27
Phoenix stacking to take on mutas could be pretty sweet especially since you never even need to hit attack, you can just spam move commands near them.
I always try to shield slam face, just to make sure it doesnt work
GagnarTheUnruly
Profile Joined July 2010
United States655 Posts
October 19 2010 20:39 GMT
#28
On October 20 2010 05:31 TzTz wrote:
How is that new, people did that since beta... If you could actually move with it it would be useful against marines and so on. However with thor's splash stacking gets countered pretty badly.


It was new in March when the OP posted this (during the beta). The thread was resurrected because Boxer did the stacking trick with VIkings in the GSL.
Cheeselicker
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom78 Posts
October 19 2010 21:13 GMT
#29
You can do this with any flying unit, even flying terran buildings, carriers etc.

You could do it with motherships if you could build more than one.
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