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omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-26 12:20:02
February 26 2010 10:54 GMT
#1
seriously, why was F-key navigation removed?
anyone else raging over this?

I asked this question in one of the first TL asks Blizzard threads ages ago... blizzard's response was like "we are still seeing if this can be implemented or some such vague answer". Now beta is out and F-keys are absent. t.t

LINK to my battlenet post regarding this matter.
Trap
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States395 Posts
February 26 2010 10:56 GMT
#2
Completely agree, also you can't alt-hotkey to focus on that hotkey anymore... So basically you have to be double tapping your CCs. Quite annoying.
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omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-26 11:03:45
February 26 2010 10:58 GMT
#3
On February 26 2010 19:56 Trap wrote:
Completely agree, also you can't alt-hotkey to focus on that hotkey anymore... So basically you have to be double tapping your CCs. Quite annoying.


oh yea!!! I meant to mention this as well! this is no doubt due to ALT being used to display health bars... still it is unacceptable.
iMarshall
Profile Joined July 2008
Norway190 Posts
February 26 2010 11:03 GMT
#4
On February 26 2010 19:56 Trap wrote:
Completely agree, also you can't alt-hotkey to focus on that hotkey anymore... So basically you have to be double tapping your CCs. Quite annoying.

Wow, I didn't know you could alt-hotkey to focus, I've always double-clicked the hotkey!:O
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
February 26 2010 11:06 GMT
#5
I am super annoyed that there are no F2 keys -_-
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-26 11:09:07
February 26 2010 11:08 GMT
#6
I never used alt hotkey but I'm sure there are some that are really used to it. I don't see why alt hotkey still couldn't be used even if it does show health bars for a brief second.

I never used any F keys really either. Always been a minimap clicker. F keys are too far imo, just hotkey structures
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
ven
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany332 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-26 11:12:59
February 26 2010 11:10 GMT
#7
On February 26 2010 19:56 Trap wrote:
Completely agree, also you can't alt-hotkey to focus on that hotkey anymore... So basically you have to be double tapping your CCs. Quite annoying.

For some reason Alt+# did work in a replay when I tried it. Doesn't anymore, though.
You can reach the rainbow. I'll be there to help.
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-26 11:14:37
February 26 2010 11:12 GMT
#8
On February 26 2010 20:08 CharlieMurphy wrote:
I never used alt hotkey but I'm sure there are some that are really used to it. I don't see why alt hotkey still couldn't be used even if it does show health bars for a brief second.

I never used any F keys really either. Always been a minimap clicker. F keys are too far imo, just hotkey structures


learning to use F keys was the only way I got half my BW wins since I relied on them to macro... especially when playing Z. it is such an amazing function. I was hoping SC2 would have f2-f8... instead they took it out. mind boggling.

for all those who find this appalling. please go spam BRING IT BACK in the link provided in the OP.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
February 26 2010 11:26 GMT
#9
It doesn't make any sense to remove it. What was the point of that?
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
February 26 2010 12:10 GMT
#10
On February 26 2010 20:26 Holgerius wrote:
It doesn't make any sense to remove it. What was the point of that?


probably due to some war3 poll where most people said "not really useful toi have"
but seriously, rage. lets unite and get this shit implemented.
Lenymo
Profile Joined January 2009
Sweden7 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-26 13:01:36
February 26 2010 12:39 GMT
#11
This is probably unrelated, but the Diablo 3 dev team decided to not have a hotkey for weapon switch because "it's confusing for noobs, they accidentally hit the hotkey and wonder where the hell their weapons went."
Of course, This decision caused much rage in D3 forums.

If they used the same logic for the F-keys in SC2, it would be beyond retarded, it's almost impossible to accidentally hit shift-F2 and then go "whoa why is my screen jumping around?" - 99% of starcraft players doesn't even know they exist! (on a related note, i had no idea about the alt-hotkey thing until now either). Noob-friendliness is the only reason i can figure out, otherwise it would just be a plain oversight.

Regardless, it should be extremely easy to implement, no? BRING IT BACK ;(
Kylig
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden41 Posts
February 26 2010 12:54 GMT
#12
Blizzard is like "well if the retarded monkeys cant use it why should we ad it for the experts so they can seperate themselves from the retards"

Its like they want to make all people bads or something, I dont quite understand but I think the less stuff, the more shallow a game is the more noobs (mainstream) it will attract. Which means alot of people buy the game?
Flash - Ah - Savior of the universe
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
February 26 2010 13:38 GMT
#13
oh god i raged so much about this
transfer scvs make me suicidal every time lol, clicking around on the map like a newb :d
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
yarders
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom194 Posts
February 26 2010 13:45 GMT
#14
BRING THEM BACK BLIZZARD. PLEASE
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
February 26 2010 13:57 GMT
#15
all people in rage.. go bump my post on the newb-attlenet forums here
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
February 26 2010 14:06 GMT
#16
I don't think they even do anything useful right now? (F2 F3 F4 or +shift) So, why the hell not :|
Everyone needs a nemesis.
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
February 26 2010 14:07 GMT
#17
Yes the lack of F keys seems odd. Apparently its one of those things that Blizzard doesn't understand is important to the community. Or didn't understand when they started making the game.

It feels like Blizzard is willing to make the game as well suited for us fans as they can right now but they should have thought like that when they created the game engine aswell.
Maniac-
Profile Joined February 2010
Austria7 Posts
February 26 2010 14:18 GMT
#18
how did shift+F work? I guess it switched your screen to your nexi, but why shift+f and not just the Fs? Btw F1 is for your not-in-use workers, and in wc3 it was for your heroes (i played for years without knowing that, and only barely use them today oO)
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
February 26 2010 14:24 GMT
#19
On February 26 2010 23:18 Maniac- wrote:
how did shift+F work? I guess it switched your screen to your nexi, but why shift+f and not just the Fs? Btw F1 is for your not-in-use workers, and in wc3 it was for your heroes (i played for years without knowing that, and only barely use them today oO)

shift + f2, f3, f4 saves the screen position and f2 f3 f4 recalls the screen position

I would really like to see them in SC2. I think they would be very helpful with the "action on multiple fronts" concept of the game.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
February 26 2010 14:27 GMT
#20
iirc the f keys were supposed to be used for something else. that's why the arent here right now.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
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