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Very thorough update thanks to practice.practice on the beta forums.
My own disclaimer: Some divisions appear to have significant ELO inflation compared to others :s I still don't quite get how this works.
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This is a list of the top 200 players in each of the 10 Platinum division based on their ELO. While doing this, I think it may be easier to acquire a higher ELO in some of the more competitive divisions. For example, a 91-23 record was worth roughly the same as a 34-13 record in different divisions. This may not be the case and may be due to opponents and bonus points, but just something to keep in mind.
Here's how many people represented each division:
Division 1: 16
Division 2: 44
Division 3: 7
Division 4: 9
Division 5: 19
Division 6: 35
Division 7: 28
Division 8: 20
Division 9: 16
Division 10: 4
1) KiWiKaKi 1873 224-52
2) Smuft 1847 162-34
3) Philanderer 1710 96-31
4) Artosis 1668 216-71
5) Siccles 1661 155-65
6) CowboyDan 1644 173-56
7) ReSpOnSe 1627 120-36
8) CrunCher 1622 153-58
9) aLt 1565 193-71
10) Fayth 1565 158-65
11) nMn 1556 114-31
12) DarKNeSS 1539 59-20
13) voice 1531 85-32
14) Inebriated 1530 175-62
15) JessicaJung 1522 81-31
16) Dayvie 1521 179-15
17) harrydg 1518 89-54
18) Louder 1508 131-36
19) GnoMEy 1502 101-14
20) CowGoMoo 1501 90-6
21) Machine 1491 126-37
22) Filthy 1491 132-58
23) Mezmerize 1491 134-70
24) Warlen 1483 57-17
25) Cowsrule 1468 131-53
26) OverSky 1464 260-83
27) Tomed 1457 143-79
28) Nallaen 1453 115-54
29) Stompey 1449 84-49
30) Skew 1443 151-63
31) KhanYeWest 1443 98-63
32) ohdearitsson 1441 58-22
33) Zelniq 1433 112-55
34) Tasteless 1430 120-66
35) IDKanything 1420 68-32
36) Sonic 1420 85-49
37) ReddoG 1418 205-128
38) siNdreAd 1415 116-71
39) IdrA 1414 149-55
40) roachbro 1413 50-28
41) Azz 1409 151-69
42) Azure 1408 97-36
43) Cyrox 1408 44-22
44) Tragedy 1406 78-33
45) zOObie 1405 213-102
46) Zeppelin 1403 93-55
47) Bubba 1401 106-41
48) InsaneRabbi 1396 55-34
49) CuDi 1394 91-60
50) iNcontroL 1391 67-27
51) Nadagest 1385 111-46
52) Taurent 1383 91-23
53) zerg 1382 34-13
54) vOidwards 1378 100-39
55) Tsaga 1375 97-49
56) Rookstar 1368 53-18
57) DwRHuNteR 1366 67-18
60) JEroMEoH 1365 72-17
61) MarsNZ 1363 98-51
62) Real 1362 52-33
63) CauthonLuck 1361 232-85
64) KHB 1358 90-20
65) Ruutu 1358 45-15
66) SMHERO 1354 72-43
67) Delita 1351 68-41
68) Ragnok 1349 114-55
69) Ginseng 1346 51-26
70) Atrioc 1342 45-24
71) Gibybo 1337 48-28
72) Garok 1336 60-28
73) hybillisk 1335 59-15
74) Canvas 1335 59-35
75) Krishanu 1335 100-37
76) Orb 1333 74-39
77) Cones 1326 35-10
78) OrGaNiZeD 1325 102-45
79) TeamEG 1325 68-41
80) Calcium 1321 109-61
81) ZeuS 1315 114-51
82) RazoR 1312 73-37
83) Esohjay 1311 104-61
84) Batssa 1300 35-16
85) Aquanda 1300 60-36
86) Sensei 1299 92-64
87) CBI 1298 27-11
88) Kirb 1297 73-38
89) Clownz 1297 68-52
90) risc 1295 28-15
91) Darksquad 1292 46-26
92) Fauxpaw 1291 41-23
93) Bluewolf 1288 119-43
94) emitpeels 1286 133-77
95) Haiku 1284 50-22
96) mazar 1281 41-15
97) Lorelei 1280 79-29
98) Khaymus 1280 70-50
99) Onslaught 1280 101-63
100) JiYan 1278 52-30
101) TorcH 1278 79-62
102) Will 1277 48-14
103) eeSanG 1276 29-9
104) ZoINK 1269 54-33
105) Moshi 1268 143-109
106) Tor 1268 107-75
107) Twohearted 1266 36-17
108) Zefa 1265 34-16
109) Johney 1264 84-43
110) FreddyJr 1262 47-21
111) Deep 1262 52-28
112) Jiyog 1262 42-34
113) Monkey 1260 88-49
114) Keleios 1259 51-20
115) Astator 1258 64-43
116) Link 1256 25-10
117) Snake 1255 69-48
118) Milly 1254 44-24
119) Johney 1264 84-43
120) Ahzzy 1253 60-28
121) rsjr 1252 26-8
122) Ragar 1250 37-17
123) MorbidBagel 1250 38-21
124) Dev 1249 49-30
125) Qiin 1246 58-39
126) BOMP 1245 70-8
127) Lyra 1245 75-52
128) gotQuaiL 1244 42-24
129) Zavid 1244 46-34
130) LION 1241 148-94
131) Classick 1240 26-10
132) Ash 1239 34-16
133) LilRucas 1237 30-32
134) Micronesia 1236 34-15
135) Hamtastic 1235 71-49
136) Seksi 1233 29-13
137) DooMeR 1233 26-18
138) Roguemonkey 1233 33-21
139) Augury 1231 102-67
140) FrOsTy 1229 18-6
141) Endrick 1229 26-11
142) Zeris 1228 45-26
143) Goodmanner 1227 83-53
144) Aelis 1227 30-19
145) MindGamer 1221 33-20
146) PainUser 1221 51-38
147) MDOM 1220 38-20
148) iNkA 1219 24-5
149) Orxlayer 1219 46-28
150) Joebon 1214 87-49
151)Nostalgia 1212 52-45
152) mist 1211 51-38
153) Nuke 1210 81-55
154) DreamTime 1208 20-2
155) SCIIGamer 1208 26-15
156) Zergalicious 1207 25-13
157) Shiladie 1207 50-31
158) Darren 1207 35-23
159) Kazzit 1207 79-51
160) SpoR 1207 106-84
161) Practice 1205 79-54
162) Luxx 1204 71-56
163) Margoz 1202 20-7
164) SouP 1202 18-8
165) Fallen 1201 18-6
166) Edan 1200 82-42
167) ViBE 1198 59-34
168) hotsauce 1197 83-58
169) Chakra 1197 39-29
170) SlowRusher 1195 48-34
171) Joulez 1195 29-20
172) prayanavita 1193 123-55
173) Mantra 1192 66-41
174) darren 1192 35-24
175) sine 1191 27-11
176) Cynic 1188 107-62
177) Chaostar 1188 59-59
178) Tsunami 1186 65-29
179) bentoboxrox 1186 31-15
180) CottonCM 1186 29-18
181) Xtcy 1183 26-14
182) Sid 1182 62-33
183) Shudmeyer 1181 58-36
184) Ashlond 1180 46-30
185) Badred 1179 24-12
186) LolotheBnny 1177 52-25
187) Renixian 1176 33-7
188) Kilalot 1176 53-38
189) Spork 1175 35-15
190) Memz 1175 24-15
191) Mogwi 1175 29-20
192) Inglewood 1175 25-24
193) yumyumhungry 1173 38-27
194) Trick 1172 51-19
195) Crunchums 1172 36-21
196) zen 1169 22-6
197) Unrev 1166 27-16
198) Logikz 1165 25-15
199) Jerry 1164 28-17
200) keen 1161 43-23
Top 8 per division:
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DIVISION 1:
1) OverSky 1464 260-83
2) zOObie 1405 213-102
3) Bubba 1401 106-41
4) Nadagest 1385 111-46
5) Ragnok 1349 114-55
6) Krishanu 1335 100-37
7) Fauxpaw 1291 41-23
8) Monkey 1260 88-49
DIVISION 2:
1) KiWiKaKi 1873 224-52
2) Smuft 1847 162-34
3) Siccles 1661 155-65
4) Fayth 1565 158-65
5) nMn 1556 114-31
6) Inebriated 1530 175-62
7) JessicaJung 1522 81-31
8) Tomed 1457 143-79
DIVISION 3:
1) GnoMEy 1502 101-14
2) JEroMEoH 1365 72-17
3) hybillisk 1335 59-15
4) mazar 1281 41-15
5) Lorelei 1280 79-29
6) Seksi 1233 29-13
7) Spork 1175 35-15
8) Grubar 1160 31-8
DIVISION 4:
1) Dayvie 1521 179-15
2) CowGoMoo 1501 90-6
3) IdrA 1414 149-55
4) Taurent 1383 91-23
5) CauthonLuck 1361 232-85
6) KHB 1358 90-20
7) BOMP1245 70-8
8) Renixian 1176 33-7
DIVISION 5:
1) Louder 1508 131-36
2) iNcontroL 1391 67-27
3) vOidwards 1378 100-39
4) Rookstar 1368 53-18
5) DwRHuNteR 1366 67-18
6) Ruutu 1358 45-15
7) Canvas 1335 59-35
8) OrGaNiZeD 1325 102-45
DIVISION 6:
1) CowboyDan 1644 173-56
2) Columns 1637 123-32
3) ReSpOnSe 1627 120-36
4) CrunCher 1622 153-58
5) aLt 1565 193-71
6) Machine 1491 126-37
7) Filthy 1491 132-58
8) Mezmerize 1491 134-70
DIVISION 7:
1) Philanderer 1710 96-31
2) Artosis 1668 216-71
3) DarKNeSS 1539 59-20
4) voice 1531 85-32
5) harrydg 1518 89-54
6) Warlen 1483 57-17
7) ohdearitsson 1441 58-22
8) IDKanything 1420 68-32
DIVISION 8:
1) KhanYeWest 1443 98-63
2) Tasteless 1430 120-66
3) siNdreAd 1415 116-71
4) Zeppelin 1403 93-55
5) Real 1362 52-33
6) Gibybo 1337 48-28
7) Batssa 1300 35-16
8) Darksquad 1292 46-26
DIVISION 9:
1) Orb 1333 74-39
2) Khaymus 1280 70-50
3) FreddyJr 1262 47-21
4) rsjr 1252 26-8
5) MorbidBagel 1250 38-21
6) DooMeR 1233 26-18
7) Roguemonkey 1233 33-21
8) Zeris 1228 45-26
DIVISION 10:
1) Haiku 1284 50-22
2) Dev 1249 49-30
3) Classick 1240 26-10
4) Fallen 1201 18-6
5) coeus 1161 28-18
6) hart 1140 39-26
7) Dememor 1064 42-29
8) YoM 1037 10-4
Original source: http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23425463935&postId=234232364366&sid=5000#8
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Ah I'm just outside top 200 keke~
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Thanks for compiling this. I thought Dayvie and KHB would be higher, tbh...
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On February 26 2010 18:46 3clipse wrote:
Thanks for compiling this. I thought Davyie and KHB would be much higher, tbh... There's a disclaimer at the top of the OP that I agree with: There definitely seems to be some discrepancy between how ELO is calculated between divisions. Certain divisions have a much higher ELO inflation it seems.
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On February 26 2010 18:43 Plexa wrote:
Ah I'm just outside top 200 keke~
Hey Plexa, how is New Zealand internet and SC2?
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can you compare elo's betwixt divisions though?
interesting nonetheless
edit: ninja'd -_-
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On February 26 2010 18:48 ViruX wrote:Hey Plexa, how is New Zealand internet and SC2?
Works fine 
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wow kiwi is 1873 already!
yea i cant believe dayvie is 179-15 and only 1521 i guess its alot harder to get points in his league?
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Smuft!? #2? Is he active again?
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On February 26 2010 18:52 aLt)nirvana wrote:
wow kiwi is 1873 already!
yea i cant believe dayvie is 179-15 and only 1521 i guess its alot harder to get points in his league?
I'm pretty sure this has something to do with points reset "bug"
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there is a division 11 now.
i'll post an up-to-date screen in 1m
edit:
this image is current as of the time of this post
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Columns (Pillars) is 2nd in division 6 but is not included in the top 200.
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Has been said quite some times already, you can not just take elo points out of relation to its league.
The more players are in a division the more elo points you can get.
It can happen that a guy from div.x with 1100 has a true higher ranking than the guy from div.y with 1400.
After all we can say say you cannot compare elo points between leagues, just rankings.
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On February 26 2010 18:46 3clipse wrote:
Thanks for compiling this. I thought Dayvie and KHB would be higher, tbh...
KHB was reclaasified at least two times and somehow lost points probably due to a bug. I watched a stream when he #2 in the ladder and after 1 game, he was like #18 or something. just lost some points.
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On February 26 2010 18:55 Liquid_Turbo wrote:
Smuft!? #2? Is he active again?
Yes, he is, and he is ruling as what I've seen sof ar from him. I think he is the best protoss out there right now.
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I knew OverSky was solid but didn't know he would be this good. BTW his youtube is PerfectionistEmblem, been watching him for ages.
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Wooow.... I'm actually kinda mad that even in the Top-200 in the US, there are People that actually have under 30 Games!
C'mon Blizzard: 20-30% Sell their Key on eBay, 20-30% don't even play more than a few games a Day - do a better Job distributing the Keys to ppl that really deserve them. :S
You don't have to play 30+ Games a day, but to see such a HUGE difference in Games played in the Top-200 is just sad for ppl that had the ambition to play many games to get to the Top of the Ladder.
Each day of the Beta I get more and more disappointed by Blizzard... Not just because I'm not in it, but because of SC2 in general, the way they treat they're most loyal SC-Fans compared to WoW-Kidd0s, the way they're not really seem to be engaged in some kind of dialogue with the community, the way they didn't deliver things they would in SC2, the way they distribute their keys to ppl, the way they don't seem to answer emails concerning SC2-Beta-related questions etc.
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I updated the Battle.Net post to reflect Division 11 and the omitting of Columns.
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Anyone know roughly the race distribution in the top 100 or so?
like the % T/P/Z ?
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woot, i'm top 160 SpoR 1207 106-84
(actually 1219 now so move up 11 places)
wow my division (2) is the toughest.
Does that mean that my low points would probably be higher if I was in another division?
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Also, people can in any division, and any league, be matched up vs. anyone, in any division, and any league. I've played Tastless and other top platinum people when i was in silver league, and as a platinum resident i've played vs. people in bronze.
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
update that list bitches.. I dethroned Louder
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I'm like #2-3 in gold right now... I'll be in platinum when I stop disconnecting all the time XD
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I think the smaller your division the less points you get per game if there is a difference amongst divisions a list is kind of useless
hope blizzard reveals their method sometime soon
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Top 8 per division: + Show Spoiler +- Hide Spoiler -
DIVISION 1:
1) OverSky 1464 260-83
2) zOObie 1405 213-102
3) Bubba 1401 106-41
4) Nadagest 1385 111-46
5) Ragnok 1349 114-55
6) Krishanu 1335 100-37
7) Fauxpaw 1291 41-23
8) Monkey 1260 88-49
DIVISION 2:
1) KiWiKaKi 1873 224-52
2) Smuft 1847 162-34
3) Siccles 1661 155-65
4) Fayth 1565 158-65
5) nMn 1556 114-31
6) Inebriated 1530 175-62
7) JessicaJung 1522 81-31
8) Tomed 1457 143-79
DIVISION 3:
1) GnoMEy 1502 101-14
2) JEroMEoH 1365 72-17
3) hybillisk 1335 59-15
4) mazar 1281 41-15
5) Lorelei 1280 79-29
6) Seksi 1233 29-13
7) Spork 1175 35-15
8) Grubar 1160 31-8
DIVISION 4:
1) Dayvie 1521 179-15
2) CowGoMoo 1501 90-6
3) IdrA 1414 149-55
4) Taurent 1383 91-23
5) CauthonLuck 1361 232-85
6) KHB 1358 90-20
7) BOMP1245 70-8
8) Renixian 1176 33-7
DIVISION 5:
1) Louder 1508 131-36
2) iNcontroL 1391 67-27
3) vOidwards 1378 100-39
4) Rookstar 1368 53-18
5) DwRHuNteR 1366 67-18
6) Ruutu 1358 45-15
7) Canvas 1335 59-35
8) OrGaNiZeD 1325 102-45
DIVISION 6:
1) CowboyDan 1644 173-56
2) Columns 1637 123-32
3) ReSpOnSe 1627 120-36
4) CrunCher 1622 153-58
5) aLt 1565 193-71
6) Machine 1491 126-37
7) Filthy 1491 132-58
8) Mezmerize 1491 134-70
DIVISION 7:
1) Philanderer 1710 96-31
2) Artosis 1668 216-71
3) DarKNeSS 1539 59-20
4) voice 1531 85-32
5) harrydg 1518 89-54
6) Warlen 1483 57-17
7) ohdearitsson 1441 58-22
8) IDKanything 1420 68-32
DIVISION 8:
1) KhanYeWest 1443 98-63
2) Tasteless 1430 120-66
3) siNdreAd 1415 116-71
4) Zeppelin 1403 93-55
5) Real 1362 52-33
6) Gibybo 1337 48-28
7) Batssa 1300 35-16
8) Darksquad 1292 46-26
DIVISION 9:
1) Orb 1333 74-39
2) Khaymus 1280 70-50
3) FreddyJr 1262 47-21
4) rsjr 1252 26-8
5) MorbidBagel 1250 38-21
6) DooMeR 1233 26-18
7) Roguemonkey 1233 33-21
8) Zeris 1228 45-26
DIVISION 10:
1) Haiku 1284 50-22
2) Dev 1249 49-30
3) Classick 1240 26-10
4) Fallen 1201 18-6
5) coeus 1161 28-18
6) hart 1140 39-26
7) Dememor 1064 42-29
8) YoM 1037 10-4
Can someone fill in the blanks here for what races everyone is on US servers? here is mine as of 30 min ago.
![[image loading]](http://i45.tinypic.com/25jbb76.jpg)
here is P_D-1 as of 1 hour ago:
![[image loading]](http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c241/DisarrayLAN/Screenshot003.jpg)
so far 10 P, 4 Z, 1 T, 1R
#1 Spots both P.
Missing the other 9? divisions
Here is all of europe as of yesterday or something.
![[image loading]](http://www.imgupload.org/images/600_eu_divisons_24.02.jpg)
Top 8:
21 Protosses, 19 Zergs, 3 Randoms, 12 Terrans.
Top #1 Spots:
4 p, 2 z, 1 random. 0 t
Proof that Terran is weak?
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On February 26 2010 19:28 snotboogie wrote:
I knew OverSky was solid but didn't know he would be this good. BTW his youtube is PerfectionistEmblem, been watching him for ages.
Watched quite a few of his games already, he's very solid. First time I saw actual use of the creep abilities.
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You should update the OP with class breakdown, and with percentage breakdown
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On February 26 2010 19:34 CharlieMurphy wrote:
woot, i'm top 160 SpoR 1207 106-84
(actually 1219 now so move up 11 places)
wow my division (2) is the toughest.
Does that mean that my low points would probably be higher if I was in another division?
Your division is the not the hardest but the easiest, because it is bigger so you get the most points there. Elo points cannot be compared from division to division, so far now we can only compare ranks.
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On February 26 2010 18:50 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2010 18:48 ViruX wrote:On February 26 2010 18:43 Plexa wrote:
Ah I'm just outside top 200 keke~ Hey Plexa, how is New Zealand internet and SC2? Works fine
Are Australia and New Zealand on the US server then, not Asia?
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CowGoMoo 1501 90-6
Who is that? Sick record.
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Vatican City State1872 Posts
cowgomoo is really good 
i cannot beat him or cowboydan
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Melbourne5338 Posts
On February 26 2010 22:32 Suc wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2010 18:50 Plexa wrote:On February 26 2010 18:48 ViruX wrote:On February 26 2010 18:43 Plexa wrote:
Ah I'm just outside top 200 keke~ Hey Plexa, how is New Zealand internet and SC2? Works fine Are Australia and New Zealand on the US server then, not Asia?
Australia and New Zealand have always been on US servers for sc,d2, wc3 and wow.
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kiwikaki has played so much ridiculous
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Anyone know if that Filthy is the oldschool WC3 player from Australia?
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United States24704 Posts
I'm in the OP at 136 or something like that but I recognize that the comparison is very unfair/worthless for the reasons previously described. 3/4 of my games are vs people who are significantly worse than me so it's also hard to say how I compare to another platinum player.
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On February 26 2010 22:53 DrainX wrote:
CowGoMoo 1501 90-6
Who is that? Sick record.
he posts here on that name
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On February 26 2010 22:31 Teejing wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2010 19:34 CharlieMurphy wrote:
woot, i'm top 160 SpoR 1207 106-84
(actually 1219 now so move up 11 places)
wow my division (2) is the toughest.
Does that mean that my low points would probably be higher if I was in another division? Your division is the not the hardest but the easiest, because it is bigger so you get the most points there. Elo points cannot be compared from division to division, so far now we can only compare ranks.
I dont understand this. Knowing that you can play against any people who are in any other division (and even any league apparently), i dont see why Elos shouldn't be compared. (And moreover, i dont see why there are divisions.)
Well, i see a reason: making kind of brackets for end season tournaments.
If anybody plays against anybody during the "regular season", the ratings are definitely comparable.
Then, the divisions are just there to pick up top seed players for tournaments?
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Did anyone else notice that Idra and DK are in the same division? I wish we could see their 1v1s
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On February 27 2010 00:02 Truenappa wrote:Did anyone else notice that Idra and DK are in the same division? I wish we could see their 1v1s
Yeah, division 4 looks brutal to be in. Dayvie, Idra, KHB, CowGoMoo, and BOMP.
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More recent picture of Division 6.
Top 8 are:
Cowboydan (Zerg)
CrunCher (Protoss)
Columns (Protoss)
Response (Protoss)
aLt. (Protoss)
Me (Terran)
CowsRule (Zerg)
Machine (Random)
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On February 26 2010 23:39 Icks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2010 22:31 Teejing wrote:On February 26 2010 19:34 CharlieMurphy wrote:
woot, i'm top 160 SpoR 1207 106-84
(actually 1219 now so move up 11 places)
wow my division (2) is the toughest.
Does that mean that my low points would probably be higher if I was in another division? Your division is the not the hardest but the easiest, because it is bigger so you get the most points there. Elo points cannot be compared from division to division, so far now we can only compare ranks. I dont understand this. Knowing that you can play against any people who are in any other division (and even any league apparently), i dont see why Elos shouldn't be compared. (And moreover, i dont see why there are divisions.) Well, i see a reason: making kind of brackets for end season tournaments. If anybody plays against anybody during the "regular season", the ratings are definitely comparable. Then, the divisions are just there to pick up top seed players for tournaments?
Elos are only absolute within your own division.
If you play someone in your division the amount of points you gain = the amount of points your opponent loses (as far as I can tell).
When you play someone from another division the amount points you gain are only equal to the amount of points your opponent loses IF there are the same amount of players in both divisions.
My guess is Blizzard don't want players in empty divisions to gain too big of an ELO lead before it's filled up with players. For this reason you can't compare a division with 8 ppl to a division with 50.
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On February 26 2010 19:32 kickinhead wrote:
Wooow.... I'm actually kinda mad that even in the Top-200 in the US, there are People that actually have under 30 Games!
I don't have a beta, but if I did, I'd probably have under 30 games on the ladder and over a hundred custom games. The point of the beta isn't to rank high, it's to find bugs, test balance and provide feedback in order to improve the game.
Being at the top of the beta ladder is pointless and almost meaningless so I'd rather people use the beta to do what it's meant for as opposed to turning it into a pissing contest. There's going to be a lot of time to compete once the game is actually out.
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On February 27 2010 01:01 psychopat wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2010 19:32 kickinhead wrote:
Wooow.... I'm actually kinda mad that even in the Top-200 in the US, there are People that actually have under 30 Games! I don't have a beta, but if I did, I'd probably have under 30 games on the ladder and over a hundred custom games. The point of the beta isn't to rank high, it's to find bugs, test balance and provide feedback in order to improve the game.
...And an excellent way to create an environment that tests balance, is to compete as if the game was complete and live for everyone.
Just because the beta test is a test, doesn't mean there's no fun to be had. 
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CowGoMoo has the best win rate at 93.3%, David Kim in second place with 91.6%
Screw the inconsistent ELO ranks, over 90% win rate is nuts.
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Isn't there a bug where people's ELO gets reset back to 1000? I dont think there is any fair comparison until that bug is fixed.
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204 games played by idra
CJ coaches need to go dictator on idra
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On February 26 2010 18:58 Disarray wrote:there is a division 11 now. i'll post an up-to-date screen in 1m edit: this image is current as of the time of this post
how is that guy over 1400 with only 32 wins and a 2:1 ratio?
WTF?
I've been grinding for days with well over twice as many wins as him and I'm only at like 1350 or something
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Like sais many times before, you cannot compare elo points from different division, just ranks.
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On February 27 2010 01:36 udgnim wrote:
204 games played by idra
CJ coaches need to go dictator on idra
im a sc2 player now, have permission from them to play it during practice time and stuff
finally passed david kim. thanks for being so bad fayth.
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On February 27 2010 02:06 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 01:36 udgnim wrote:
204 games played by idra
CJ coaches need to go dictator on idra im a sc2 player now, have permission from them to play it during practice time and stuff finally passed david kim. thanks for being so bad fayth.
Any other old BW players in CJ that are now SC2 players?
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On February 27 2010 02:06 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 01:36 udgnim wrote:
204 games played by idra
CJ coaches need to go dictator on idra im a sc2 player now, have permission from them to play it during practice time and stuff finally passed david kim. thanks for being so bad fayth.
IdrA, how many on CJ switched over to sc2?
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no one else on cj has changed, probably wont for a while since no one knows whats gonna happen with korean esports yet.
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wtf I'm not on that list but I'm 1200+
T_T sad panda
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On February 27 2010 01:49 -orb- wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2010 18:58 Disarray wrote:there is a division 11 now. i'll post an up-to-date screen in 1m edit: this image is current as of the time of this post how is that guy over 1400 with only 32 wins and a 2:1 ratio? WTF? I've been grinding for days with well over twice as many wins as him and I'm only at like 1350 or something
It all comes down to luck with who you get paired against, I think. If you get a lot of silver/gold opponents you don't get many points for winning whereas if you get a lot of plat opponents you get a lot of points for winning (relatively speaking). Or alternately they may have had 0 bad losses whereas you may have dropped at least a couple of games to people from lower divisions... I know I did once or twice.
edit from below: cuteFayth if you are gonna counter-insult idra at least make sense.
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teehee
ur so cute IdrA, never any consistent argument, whenever you talk it's like you puke
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you'd better get a life anytime soon, you won't get anywhere with pro gaming, we all know that
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On February 27 2010 02:06 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 01:36 udgnim wrote:
204 games played by idra
CJ coaches need to go dictator on idra im a sc2 player now, have permission from them to play it during practice time and stuff finally passed david kim. thanks for being so bad fayth.
Wow this is great.
I'm placing my bets on IdrA being the first non-developer SC2 bonjwa.
And fayth won't you be envious when IdrA is on top of the ESPORTS WORLD getting mad pussy everywhere and you'll be the ugly nerd sitting in your room playing poker.
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Elos are only absolute within your own division.
so this make absolute no sense ^^
more players in division = more points
tahts why all division 2players have SO many points ... kiwi isnt better then other place 1 gamers
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i dont think Elo's are only absolute within your own division, i think theyre universal across all divisions. Smaller divisions = Newer divisions and newer divisions would obviously contain players with lower ratings aka 9-1 Placement players.
I dont see any evidence that would show that theyre separate.
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On February 27 2010 02:42 Puosu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 02:06 IdrA wrote:On February 27 2010 01:36 udgnim wrote:
204 games played by idra
CJ coaches need to go dictator on idra im a sc2 player now, have permission from them to play it during practice time and stuff finally passed david kim. thanks for being so bad fayth. Wow this is great. I'm placing my bets on IdrA being the first non-developer SC2 bonjwa. And fayth won't you be envious when IdrA is on top of the ESPORTS WORLD getting mad pussy everywhere and you'll be the ugly nerd sitting in your room playing poker.
ROFL. This is truly the most ridiculous thing I have ever read on TL.
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On February 27 2010 02:42 Puosu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 02:06 IdrA wrote:On February 27 2010 01:36 udgnim wrote:
204 games played by idra
CJ coaches need to go dictator on idra im a sc2 player now, have permission from them to play it during practice time and stuff finally passed david kim. thanks for being so bad fayth. Wow this is great. I'm placing my bets on IdrA being the first non-developer SC2 bonjwa. And fayth won't you be envious when IdrA is on top of the ESPORTS WORLD getting mad pussy everywhere and you'll be the ugly nerd sitting in your room playing poker.
you are embarassing urself 
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just glad to be high ranked at least once~
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give props to this guy hes updating it too!
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On February 27 2010 03:23 JiYan wrote:
give props to this guy hes updating it too!
Yeah, this guy is pretty insane. As far as I know there's know way to automatically extract this information so he's probably manually updating a spreadsheet.
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blizz should speak up for all this elo differences between division!
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United States1865 Posts
I'm #70 nice.
4 out of the top 10 are in my division though, its so stacked.
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I'm on a 9 game winning streak because it doesn't pair me up with people better than me... so I'm grinding away and slowly gaining points haha
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On February 27 2010 02:06 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 01:36 udgnim wrote:
204 games played by idra
CJ coaches need to go dictator on idra im a sc2 player now, have permission from them to play it during practice time and stuff finally passed david kim. thanks for being so bad fayth.
Translation: After losing the TSL my coaches lost faith in me and I'm now their experimental sc2 player because my sc1 career is over. So I'm going to talk smack to try and cover up the fail dripping from my pores.
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some of you guys are so angry wow...
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On February 27 2010 00:25 LaLuSh wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2010 23:39 Icks wrote:On February 26 2010 22:31 Teejing wrote:On February 26 2010 19:34 CharlieMurphy wrote:
woot, i'm top 160 SpoR 1207 106-84
(actually 1219 now so move up 11 places)
wow my division (2) is the toughest.
Does that mean that my low points would probably be higher if I was in another division? Your division is the not the hardest but the easiest, because it is bigger so you get the most points there. Elo points cannot be compared from division to division, so far now we can only compare ranks. I dont understand this. Knowing that you can play against any people who are in any other division (and even any league apparently), i dont see why Elos shouldn't be compared. (And moreover, i dont see why there are divisions.) Well, i see a reason: making kind of brackets for end season tournaments. If anybody plays against anybody during the "regular season", the ratings are definitely comparable. Then, the divisions are just there to pick up top seed players for tournaments? Elos are only absolute within your own division. If you play someone in your division the amount of points you gain = the amount of points your opponent loses (as far as I can tell). When you play someone from another division the amount points you gain are only equal to the amount of points your opponent loses IF there are the same amount of players in both divisions. My guess is Blizzard don't want players in empty divisions to gain too big of an ELO lead before it's filled up with players. For this reason you can't compare a division with 8 ppl to a division with 50.
Sigh, this is so bad I want to scream -____-
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I'm glad to see Fallen playing, I've got to assume that's The-Fallen-Frog, very old school starcraft and war3 player; met him at WCG 2007, very nice guy
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[B]On February 27 2010 03:01 cuteFayth wrote: you are embarassing urself
That doesn't make sense, how can you embarassing urself, the words don't even make sense.
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On February 27 2010 02:42 Puosu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 02:06 IdrA wrote:On February 27 2010 01:36 udgnim wrote:
204 games played by idra
CJ coaches need to go dictator on idra im a sc2 player now, have permission from them to play it during practice time and stuff finally passed david kim. thanks for being so bad fayth. Wow this is great. I'm placing my bets on IdrA being the first non-developer SC2 bonjwa. And fayth won't you be envious when IdrA is on top of the ESPORTS WORLD getting mad pussy everywhere and you'll be the ugly nerd sitting in your room playing poker.
Considering what Fayth's house looks like........... No, I don't think he'll be very envious. Dude's made a pretty healthy chunk of money from poker.
Of course, this IdrA vs Fayth bickering is pretty silly 
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Mutalisks are fucking imbalanced this is retarded, I had fast hidden expo, pumping Vikings vs 1 base mutalisks, and he would fucking kill them, 1 mutalisk kills 1 viking
FML
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oh I am there... somehow my name is spelled Zeris, hehe !
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On February 27 2010 02:14 IdrA wrote:
no one else on cj has changed, probably wont for a while since no one knows whats gonna happen with korean esports yet.
When did you start playing? I'm pretty sure you got a late start, so good work on passing dayvie. I think You will pwn everyone in the future SC2 proscene, I can see you translating all your efficient APM into ridic unit micro because you'll have so much spare APM from the easy macro mechanics.
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On February 27 2010 02:39 cuteFayth wrote:
you'd better get a life anytime soon, you won't get anywhere with pro gaming, we all know that
Do you ever stop trash talking? Thanks for the very EASY points btw <---Ragnok.
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FAYTH TEACH ME TERRAN VS ZERG PLZ
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On February 27 2010 06:19 ManWithCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 02:39 cuteFayth wrote:
you'd better get a life anytime soon, you won't get anywhere with pro gaming, we all know that Do you ever stop trash talking? Thanks for the very EASY points btw <---Ragnok.
.... did you read the thread or only my posts? do you love me?
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omfg, smuft active? i bet Drizzt is active too? omg
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I'm saving this to show to my grandchildren! "Look little timmy, Grand-papa got into the SC2 beta early enough to cheese his way onto a top 200 list!" :p
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fuck motherfucking mothership
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On February 27 2010 00:25 LaLuSh wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2010 23:39 Icks wrote:On February 26 2010 22:31 Teejing wrote:On February 26 2010 19:34 CharlieMurphy wrote:
woot, i'm top 160 SpoR 1207 106-84
(actually 1219 now so move up 11 places)
wow my division (2) is the toughest.
Does that mean that my low points would probably be higher if I was in another division? Your division is the not the hardest but the easiest, because it is bigger so you get the most points there. Elo points cannot be compared from division to division, so far now we can only compare ranks. I dont understand this. Knowing that you can play against any people who are in any other division (and even any league apparently), i dont see why Elos shouldn't be compared. (And moreover, i dont see why there are divisions.) Well, i see a reason: making kind of brackets for end season tournaments. If anybody plays against anybody during the "regular season", the ratings are definitely comparable. Then, the divisions are just there to pick up top seed players for tournaments? Elos are only absolute within your own division. If you play someone in your division the amount of points you gain = the amount of points your opponent loses (as far as I can tell). When you play someone from another division the amount points you gain are only equal to the amount of points your opponent loses IF there are the same amount of players in both divisions. My guess is Blizzard don't want players in empty divisions to gain too big of an ELO lead before it's filled up with players. For this reason you can't compare a division with 8 ppl to a division with 50.
Do you have a source on the ELOs being absolute only within their division? I see a lot of assertions flying around.
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On February 26 2010 19:32 kickinhead wrote:
Wooow.... I'm actually kinda mad that even in the Top-200 in the US, there are People that actually have under 30 Games!
C'mon Blizzard: 20-30% Sell their Key on eBay, 20-30% don't even play more than a few games a Day - do a better Job distributing the Keys to ppl that really deserve them. :S
You don't have to play 30+ Games a day, but to see such a HUGE difference in Games played in the Top-200 is just sad for ppl that had the ambition to play many games to get to the Top of the Ladder.
... the way they didn't deliver things they would in SC2, the way they distribute their keys to ppl, the way they don't seem to answer emails concerning SC2-Beta-related questions etc.
I think 3-4 games a day is plenty of information for blizzard. To say that people that don't play tons of games don't deserve to be in the beta is a little ridiculous. Most people have jobs that prohibit them playing all day.
I don't think the purpose of the beta is game spamming and beefing up your record. What if the person who played 30 games has sent more feedback on his games than the person playing 400 games (which is kind of excessive if you think about it.... 400 games in 9 days)?
People need to chill out and stop e-mailing blizzard. Wonder how many emails they get per day regarding the beta. It's hardly week 2 of the beta and the battle.net forums are out of control.
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any 1 know what race play KiWiKaKi or if he stream im curious to see him live :D
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On February 27 2010 05:16 Atrioc wrote:
I'm #70 nice.
4 out of the top 10 are in my division though, its so stacked.
Like they've said, ELO inflation seems like a likely problem.
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On February 27 2010 02:39 cuteFayth wrote:
you'd better get a life anytime soon, you won't get anywhere with pro gaming, we all know that
whats wrong with this tool?
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On February 27 2010 07:33 radiumz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 05:16 Atrioc wrote:
I'm #70 nice.
4 out of the top 10 are in my division though, its so stacked. Like they've said, ELO inflation seems like a likely problem.
can someone please explain ELO in short... ive read the wiki article but i cant make heads from tales there... is it related to that resting time? or its used to compare players who play 100 games with players who play 1000
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On February 27 2010 07:33 StarsPride wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 02:39 cuteFayth wrote:
you'd better get a life anytime soon, you won't get anywhere with pro gaming, we all know that whats wrong with this tool?
dunno man, ask him
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On February 27 2010 07:50 cuteFayth wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 07:33 StarsPride wrote:On February 27 2010 02:39 cuteFayth wrote:
you'd better get a life anytime soon, you won't get anywhere with pro gaming, we all know that whats wrong with this tool? dunno man, ask him
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all im saying is. there is no reason for such talk even if you feel the other person deserves it.
we know you dont like idra. But you shouldn't be attacking someone on a personal level like you are.
its so childish
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lol I'm in the top 200? that is hilarious
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On February 27 2010 07:53 StarsPride wrote:
all im saying is. there is no reason for such talk even if you feel the other person deserves it.
we know you dont like idra. But you shouldn't be attacking someone on a personal level like you are.
its so childish
oh you were talking about me? lol thought you were talking about Idra
and read thread HE attacked me, he always attacks me first, I actually don't give a flying shit about Idra, nor about his aspirations or anything
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Idra is hilarious, he rages so hard it seems xD
I randomed one game and got ZvP vs Idra, I think he was gonna go fast DT but I slipped a pair of lings up his ramp past his zeals and see a citadel, kill1 probe, and then he just quits.
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which one is nony? or did he just play a few games yet?
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David Kim 179-17
what the heck is with that gosu ratio?!?!?!
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On February 27 2010 08:44 Windblade wrote:
David Kim 179-17
what the heck is with that gosu ratio?!?!?!
I just beat him
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On February 27 2010 08:45 {88}iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 08:44 Windblade wrote:
David Kim 179-17
what the heck is with that gosu ratio?!?!?! I just beat him
Well i beat him twice today so there
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On February 27 2010 08:20 CowGoMoo wrote:
Idra is hilarious, he rages so hard it seems xD
I randomed one game and got ZvP vs Idra, I think he was gonna go fast DT but I slipped a pair of lings up his ramp past his zeals and see a citadel, kill1 probe, and then he just quits.
Eh, Just sounds like someone who values his time to me.
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no that's what we call "rage quit"
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On February 27 2010 09:28 siNdreAd wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 08:20 CowGoMoo wrote:
Idra is hilarious, he rages so hard it seems xD
I randomed one game and got ZvP vs Idra, I think he was gonna go fast DT but I slipped a pair of lings up his ramp past his zeals and see a citadel, kill1 probe, and then he just quits. Eh, Just sounds like someone who values his time to me.
I guess, but IMO no need to leave because I scout your citadel =S
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On February 26 2010 18:46 3clipse wrote:
Thanks for compiling this. I thought Dayvie and KHB would be higher, tbh...
I don't think you know how the ranking works. All the divisions are equal and you're randomly assigned to them. Dayvie is #1 in his division.
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On February 27 2010 09:28 siNdreAd wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 08:20 CowGoMoo wrote:
Idra is hilarious, he rages so hard it seems xD
I randomed one game and got ZvP vs Idra, I think he was gonna go fast DT but I slipped a pair of lings up his ramp past his zeals and see a citadel, kill1 probe, and then he just quits. Eh, Just sounds like someone who values his time to me. If he's playing to practice, wouldn't he probably not want to use a build that feels like an auto-leave as soon as it's scouted?
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On February 27 2010 08:20 CowGoMoo wrote:
Idra is hilarious, he rages so hard it seems xD
I randomed one game and got ZvP vs Idra, I think he was gonna go fast DT but I slipped a pair of lings up his ramp past his zeals and see a citadel, kill1 probe, and then he just quits.
tell your coworkers to stop nerfing protoss when pvz is already impossible and that wont have to happen
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On February 27 2010 10:28 Striverz-G wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2010 18:46 3clipse wrote:
Thanks for compiling this. I thought Dayvie and KHB would be higher, tbh... I don't think you know how the ranking works. All the divisions are equal and you're randomly assigned to them. Dayvie is #1 in his division.
no it's you who doesnt understand
all divisions are not equal at all, new divisions are constantly being created and added with all new players, so the top players in that division arent anywhere comparable to the top 8 in a longstanding one.
example:
DIVISION 6:
1) CowboyDan 1644 173-56
2) Columns 1637 123-32
3) ReSpOnSe 1627 120-36
4) CrunCher 1622 153-58
5) aLt 1565 193-71
6) Machine 1491 126-37
7) Filthy 1491 132-58
8) Mezmerize 1491 134-70
DIVISION 10:
1) Haiku 1284 50-22
2) Dev 1249 49-30
3) Classick 1240 26-10
4) Fallen 1201 18-6
5) coeus 1161 28-18
6) hart 1140 39-26
7) Dememor 1064 42-29
8) YoM 1037 10-4
if you think these 8 are about equal to the other 8.. i dont even know what to say to that..
people need to stop acting like they know what theyre talking about when they dont!
On February 27 2010 10:58 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 08:20 CowGoMoo wrote:
Idra is hilarious, he rages so hard it seems xD
I randomed one game and got ZvP vs Idra, I think he was gonna go fast DT but I slipped a pair of lings up his ramp past his zeals and see a citadel, kill1 probe, and then he just quits. tell your coworkers to stop nerfing protoss when pvz is already impossible and that wont have to happen
wait what CowGoMoo works @ Blizzard? in what capacity?
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I'm 115, yay ^_^ and gained 100 elo since the time of the post
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Whats with poker players acting like they are such big shit and so successful when they make a living off of gambling? I mean criticizing people for following their dreams instead of mooching off of society is just silly.
I'm not against poker as a job and I don't consider it morally wrong but acting like you are better than anybody because of that career choice is stupid.
The fact is that people do require some satisfaction/contribution to society from their work and I think thats who so many poker players are a mess.
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replace "poker players" by IdrA and it's pretty much the same shit
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On February 27 2010 10:59 Zelniq wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 10:28 Striverz-G wrote:On February 26 2010 18:46 3clipse wrote:
Thanks for compiling this. I thought Dayvie and KHB would be higher, tbh... I don't think you know how the ranking works. All the divisions are equal and you're randomly assigned to them. Dayvie is #1 in his division. no it's you who doesnt understand all divisions are not equal at all, new divisions are constantly being created and added with all new players, so the top players in that division arent anywhere comparable to the top 8 in a longstanding one. example: DIVISION 6: 1) CowboyDan 1644 173-56 2) Columns 1637 123-32 3) ReSpOnSe 1627 120-36 4) CrunCher 1622 153-58 5) aLt 1565 193-71 6) Machine 1491 126-37 7) Filthy 1491 132-58 8) Mezmerize 1491 134-70 DIVISION 10: 1) Haiku 1284 50-22 2) Dev 1249 49-30 3) Classick 1240 26-10 4) Fallen 1201 18-6 5) coeus 1161 28-18 6) hart 1140 39-26 7) Dememor 1064 42-29 8) YoM 1037 10-4 if you think these 8 are about equal to the other 8.. i dont even know what to say to that.. people need to stop acting like they know what theyre talking about when they dont!
Good job kid, exactly my point. Divisions aren't immediate indicators of rank. Earlier divisions just means they started the game earlier. Davyie being #1 in his division doesn't mean #1 in a lower division is better than him. Divisions are assigned randomly and you're really only competing with your division. It's better so say "I am #1 out of 100", or "I am 1st in my division" than "I am ranked 60th out of 3,425". Brilliant move by Blizzard.
A combination of win:loss ratio and league rank means more than just division ranking.
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On February 27 2010 11:22 ShaperofDreams wrote:
Whats with poker players acting like they are such big shit and so successful when they make a living off of gambling? I mean criticizing people for following their dreams instead of mooching off of society is just silly.
I'm not against poker as a job and I don't consider it morally wrong but acting like you are better than anybody because of that career choice is stupid.
The fact is that people do require some satisfaction/contribution to society from their work and I think thats who so many poker players are a mess.
Yea, I'm sure sitting at your office desk is really contributing to society.
Yea, I'm sure the reason why you slum away at your 9-5 job is to help society rather than MAKE MONEY.
(sarcasm)
If you can succeed in poker and have the personality for it, its a great lifestyle. Work 30 hours a week, make well over 6 figures a year.
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god divisions are so confusing - why don't they just have a set starting elo for each league, and then make the divisions by percentage: top 10% division 1, 11-20 division 2, etc. You'd start wherever 1000 would fall in each league (instinctually this feels like it would be near the middle of the divisions) and then would work your way up or down depending. Fall too far down you get knocked back to the middle of the next lowest league, go all the way to the top you get knocked up into the next highest league.
edit come to think of it just get rid of divisions altogether - is there a point if they aren't subdividing by skill? just have leagues as full ladders.
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Cool I'm on the list
72) Garok 1336 60-28
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On February 27 2010 11:25 cuteFayth wrote:
replace "poker players" by IdrA and it's pretty much the same shit
Let's get away from the "IdrA" topic please.
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they keep attacking me randomly, I just have to ignore them, I suck at ignoring people, I must be insecure
RIGHT?
right
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Idra hops in threads and trash talks which is screaming for backlash and then moderators ask to "get away from Idra topic please"
How about moderating his trash? If any other forum poster acted like him they would get temp bans for derailing.
It isn't like it doesn't happen every thread he talks shit in. Common denominator? Hmm lemme guess.
Heck almost every TL post regarding him states something or other along the lines of "love him or hate him" so it isn't like this is some uncommon theme.
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really shows how few good players are in the beta right now that 2 D/D- players I know personally are on the top 200 list O_O
I'd love to see some silver league reps or something considering that, lol
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well top 200 doesn't mean much..... top 50 might mean somewhat something
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I'm a top 200 Starcraft2 player!!! I'm so happy!! :D
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On February 27 2010 11:22 ShaperofDreams wrote:
Whats with poker players acting like they are such big shit and so successful when they make a living off of gambling? I mean criticizing people for following their dreams instead of mooching off of society is just silly.
I'm not against poker as a job and I don't consider it morally wrong but acting like you are better than anybody because of that career choice is stupid.
The fact is that people do require some satisfaction/contribution to society from their work and I think thats who so many poker players are a mess.
What kind of a ridiculous generalization is that? You could have just said "Whats with Fayth..." since your post was targeted at him. I don't feel like people jumping at Fayth's neck for being upset is justified in any way. IdrA and Fayth are similar on many points and they both deserve the same criticism. People shouldn't take sides on who's more of a dick in the thread, they should just be dicks to each others in private if that's what they want. IdrA obviously gets a kick out of it since he has so many nut huggers on here it seems, so chances are he's going to be the one starting this shit.
As far as I can see, Fayth and IdrA both exceed the acceptable levels of pretentiousness, but Fayth at least has a couple cool millions to show for his talents. I think results show he's been more successful and clever being a self-made millionaire "following his dreams" than IdrA who has a coach to report to and fixed hours to work. I can't blame Fayth for not being able to ignore IdrA's needling when we take that into account.
But yes, the dick size measuring contest is juvenile. I don't see why you would ever bring society into the argument. It's a moot point. Some people's dreams might of just been being their own bosses and poker allowed that for them? Aren't you doing the same thing you criticize poker players of doing by saying this?
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how the hell do u know if your ranked better than someone else from another division??
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muahaha I'm +1 on Geoff according to this >: )
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It doesn't matter if I'm number one. As long as I have 1337 points, lawlz.
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IdrA just inside the top 40... he must still be practising BW a bunch
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On February 27 2010 16:03 meeple wrote:
IdrA just inside the top 40... he must still be practising BW a bunch
Paying way too much attention to a X day old beta
I would say even end of beta ladder isn't too big a deal. It really depends how you play, and what diff things you try. There is gonna be a ton of cheese, things changing day to day / week to week, etc.
Give the game a year or two before even talking about top players. Yeah there will be tournies and $$ games even in beta/first months. But this game has 2 expansions coming out still. It's gonna be extremely variant even with a great company like blizzard. A single expansion can completely change how the game plays, now the fact there will be 2 plus new maps, balance changes... This game will be around for 10+ years. What matters at this point imo, is Games Played. People like Oversky (inreach) etc putting up insane hours into the game, those are the guys to watch out for not some people cheesing every game or abusing the latest imba things.
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I'm really confused i played about 80 games, i think i win like 70-80% with an ELO aroundj 1400 and im silver.. I'm in division 14.. I started off some games having friends play with me, kinda affected my placement. I'm a solid C+ rank in iccup. I seriously think my division is really tough..
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On February 27 2010 15:48 Hollow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 11:22 ShaperofDreams wrote:
Whats with poker players acting like they are such big shit and so successful when they make a living off of gambling? I mean criticizing people for following their dreams instead of mooching off of society is just silly.
I'm not against poker as a job and I don't consider it morally wrong but acting like you are better than anybody because of that career choice is stupid.
The fact is that people do require some satisfaction/contribution to society from their work and I think thats who so many poker players are a mess. What kind of a ridiculous generalization is that? You could have just said "Whats with Fayth..." since your post was targeted at him. I don't feel like people jumping at Fayth's neck for being upset is justified in any way. IdrA and Fayth are similar on many points and they both deserve the same criticism. People shouldn't take sides on who's more of a dick in the thread, they should just be dicks to each others in private if that's what they want. IdrA obviously gets a kick out of it since he has so many nut huggers on here it seems, so chances are he's going to be the one starting this shit. As far as I can see, Fayth and IdrA both exceed the acceptable levels of pretentiousness, but Fayth at least has a couple cool millions to show for his talents. I think results show he's been more successful and clever being a self-made millionaire "following his dreams" than IdrA who has a coach to report to and fixed hours to work. I can't blame Fayth for not being able to ignore IdrA's needling when we take that into account. But yes, the dick size measuring contest is juvenile. I don't see why you would ever bring society into the argument. It's a moot point. Some people's dreams might of just been being their own bosses and poker allowed that for them? Aren't you doing the same thing you criticize poker players of doing by saying this?
Man that was a really good reply. I was going to make one addressing that post but this one is A+.
Thanks for the compilation, I'd imagine it'd be hard to keep it updated constantly though :x
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#1 player is KiWi a wc3 player an small time pro from Canada. Not surprising considering the game is so micro focused.
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On February 27 2010 16:53 pioneer8 wrote:
#1 player is KiWi a wc3 player an small time pro from Canada. Not surprising considering the game is so micro focused.
Here we go!!!
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Include 2's so I can be on there :D
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On February 27 2010 16:03 meeple wrote:
IdrA just inside the top 40... he must still be practising BW a bunch
no im not, but the elo's are inflated by group size and im in a small division.
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btw Idra, u better represent the US like fucking GUILE in street fighter. So few Americans or North Americans have dominated the pro scene in SC and WC3 . Your going to have to beat people like Moon.
Good luck lol
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On February 27 2010 16:53 pioneer8 wrote:
#1 player is KiWi a wc3 player an small time pro from Canada. Not surprising considering the game is so micro focused.
Nice flamebait.
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yay Terran patch?
1450-1650 in 1 day ;>
and I got to play idra and artosis, just tasteless is missing.
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On February 27 2010 16:53 pioneer8 wrote:
#1 player is KiWi a wc3 player an small time pro from Canada. Not surprising considering the game is so micro focused.
I love how the games focus changes to suit the needs of peoples arguments
This game is an attack move fest!
This game is micro focused!
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I don't think "Points" = "ELO Rating" or even close. I think your actual skill rating isn't shown anywhere, Blizzard only uses it behind the scenes to match opponents, determine league placement, etc.
Points here are like points in a sport - they represent your performance over this season in your division, they don't try or claim to measure true skill rating. There is even a game spam element to acquiring points, you'll notice in most divisions that as a player is higher ranked they tend towards having played more games. That's also why there are noob-friendly bonuses like "rested points". It you don't play for a while you accumulate these points which release to you as you win games. It's there to help players who don't play as much, or took an absence, to "catch up".
Every division in every league has a similar point spread, although the size of some divisions may affect the player's potential point gain. Basically, imo classifying the "top 200" based on the points in their division doesn't make much sense.
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On February 27 2010 14:55 faction123 wrote:
really shows how few good players are in the beta right now that 2 D/D- players I know personally are on the top 200 list O_O
I'd love to see some silver league reps or something considering that, lol
Not really... the beta levels the playing field.
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On February 27 2010 16:53 pioneer8 wrote:
#1 player is KiWi a wc3 player an small time pro from Canada. Not surprising considering the game is so micro focused.
he's #1 cuz he's talented (he does well at poker too) he's just fit to be good, he's very dedicated, he plays a lot and he's smart
so it has nothing to do with the game being more micro focused or him being a WC3 player, if he had played Brood War he'd prob just be the same
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On February 27 2010 16:53 pioneer8 wrote:
#1 player is KiWi a wc3 player an small time pro from Canada. Not surprising considering the game is so micro focused.
Even steven
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Same KiWiKaKi from PokerStars? Would I know him from the Starcraft world?
I've been playing with that guy for years, had no idea he was an RTS guy
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On February 27 2010 16:53 pioneer8 wrote:
#1 player is KiWi a wc3 player an small time pro from Canada. Not surprising considering the game is so micro focused.
Hahahaha small time WC3 pro from Canada.
Hahahahahhahahahaha.
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On February 28 2010 02:17 Kentucky wrote:
Same KiWiKaKi from PokerStars? Would I know him from the Starcraft world?
I've been playing with that guy for years, had no idea he was an RTS guy
he's from WC3 mainly, I met him in 2006 at WCG Canada he got #1 I think and went to Italy, then in won again in 2008 and went to Germany, so yeah he will prob be fairly good at SC2
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I dunno if anyone else has said this, but YoM #8 in division 10 is actually X'ds~grrrr... aka GiYoM. Pretty damn cool seeing one of the all time best starcraft players transfer over to sc2.
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What the hell, this is so cool! All these players!
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wow, oldschool players back at the top; Sindread, Smuft, Pillars, Maynard and now Giyom?
Slayer and NTT, where are you guys at? Get playing!
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I need to play some more 1v1... my rank is dropping.
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On February 27 2010 23:49 GG.Win wrote:yay Terran patch? 1450-1650 in 1 day ;> and I got to play idra and artosis, just tasteless is missing.
You've played 200 games already, info plx.
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Do we have anyone updating this periodically?
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we should, rally this guy's thread so he can update!
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Siiick, nice to see some old Aussie WC3 and SC players up there too :D
22) Filthy 1491 132-58
74) Canvas 1335 59-35
82) RazoR 1312 73-37
86) Sensei 1299 92-64
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Bump. Update please?
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Where's Nony? Why isn't he up there... Practicing too much BW lately? lol. :p
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On March 01 2010 02:54 ghrur wrote:Where's Nony? Why isn't he up there... Practicing too much BW lately? lol. :p
He has to try to win $10k, he'll be back with SC2 afterward I imagine
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how much is it for 2nd place?
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On March 01 2010 03:41 cuteFayth wrote:
how much is it for 2nd place?
This has been answered a bajillion times and is posted all over this site.
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