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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
February 20 2010 03:01 GMT
#21
kommandozentrale!
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
February 20 2010 03:22 GMT
#22
I knew that 16:9 monitor I bought was a good idea.
♞
teapot
Profile Joined October 2007
United Kingdom266 Posts
February 20 2010 10:32 GMT
#23
=[

Now faced with the bizarre situation that if on my native 1900x1200 monitor I lower to 1900x1050 suddenly more of the map appears, but I have to look at ugly horizontal black bars.

So, ugly black bars BW? yes
ugly black bars WC3? yes
ugly black bars SC2? yes

Another PC game that suffers from consolitis.
otmar
Profile Joined January 2010
Australia11 Posts
February 20 2010 10:40 GMT
#24
Alot of the top war3 players use CRT monitors.. do you guys think this will be a disadvantage in sc2?
wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-20 10:52:44
February 20 2010 10:52 GMT
#25
does it have 1920x1080 resolution cus thats what my 42inch HD TV 1080Pure LCD supports on other 3D games.

edit: if so omg, i hope i get beta, ill fucking play!
joined TL.net in 2006 (aka GMer) - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=41944#2
wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
February 20 2010 10:53 GMT
#26
On February 20 2010 05:03 caution.slip wrote:
ah i see, yeah 16 has more width.

isn't 16:19 1920x1080 (not 1980x1050)

i wish there were smaller resolutions that were 16

sorry didnt see this -_- fix op dude.
joined TL.net in 2006 (aka GMer) - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=41944#2
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
February 20 2010 10:58 GMT
#27
On February 20 2010 19:32 teapot wrote:
=[

Now faced with the bizarre situation that if on my native 1900x1200 monitor I lower to 1900x1050 suddenly more of the map appears, but I have to look at ugly horizontal black bars.

So, ugly black bars BW? yes
ugly black bars WC3? yes
ugly black bars SC2? yes

Another PC game that suffers from consolitis.


lol I didn't even think about this... I have a 1920x1200 screen, too.
Seriously, Blizzard should fix this. It's probably like 5 lines of code.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
tlwilim
Profile Joined July 2009
Hong Kong24 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-20 11:41:27
February 20 2010 11:40 GMT
#28
blizzard makes sc2 a native 16 : 9 game.
every screenshot and battle report is 16 : 9.
so blz won't fix this, it is intented imo
Wuselmops
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany346 Posts
February 20 2010 11:52 GMT
#29
almost every new screen has 16 : 9, so blizzard chose to optimize it for the majority, there is nothing to fix here.
JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
February 20 2010 11:58 GMT
#30
Allow to zoom out more and it doesnt matter
If you have to ask, you don't know.
teapot
Profile Joined October 2007
United Kingdom266 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-20 13:37:05
February 20 2010 12:04 GMT
#31
On February 20 2010 19:40 otmar wrote:
Alot of the top war3 players use CRT monitors.. do you guys think this will be a disadvantage in sc2?


The game is optimised for 16 : 9.

All other resolutions are cropped from the 16 : 9 and will be disadvantaged in the amount of map on display.

IMO this is what should be on display:

[image loading]


this is what it is on display at the moment:

[image loading]



Though I might be slightly biased having 16 : 10 :p
otmar
Profile Joined January 2010
Australia11 Posts
February 20 2010 13:07 GMT
#32
ok thanks teapot
InterWill
Profile Joined September 2007
Sweden117 Posts
February 20 2010 13:20 GMT
#33
Considering TV displays 16 : 9 natively, optimising for 16 : 9 might be considered an E-sport move.
Wuselmops
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany346 Posts
February 20 2010 13:25 GMT
#34
considering that the difference between 16 : 9 and 16 : 10 isn't that big after all, it's very likely that 16 : 10 will completely disappear from the market anytime soon.
Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-20 13:36:32
February 20 2010 13:35 GMT
#35
Crapping 4:3 =/= optimizing 16 : 9. What is the reason on why 4:3 can't have more height displayed?
otmar
Profile Joined January 2010
Australia11 Posts
February 20 2010 14:00 GMT
#36
yes I have since read 4:3 is suppose to have more height but widescreen has more width.. why is it that sc2 widescreen has same height + width and is an overall advantage??
Wuselmops
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany346 Posts
February 20 2010 14:15 GMT
#37
because sc2 is optimized for contemporary screens. any kind of advantage (such as more height) for old screens would have been dumb.
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
February 20 2010 14:19 GMT
#38
On February 20 2010 21:04 teapot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2010 19:40 otmar wrote:
Alot of the top war3 players use CRT monitors.. do you guys think this will be a disadvantage in sc2?


The game is optimised for 16 : 9.

All other resolutions are cropped from the 16 : 9 and will be disadvantaged in the amount of map on display.

IMO this is what should be on display:

Why should 16:10 get the advantage over both both other aspects? It should be like this:

[image loading]
♞
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
February 20 2010 14:21 GMT
#39
On February 20 2010 04:13 MasterOfChaos wrote:
they should have made it so
tan(FovX/2)*tan(FovY/2)=const
which basically makes what you see equal for all aspect ratios. So the widescreens show more on the side, and 4:3 shows more vertically.

Probably the reason for it becoming wider, but not narrower on widescreen is that the default function for creating a Perspective Projection matrix takes the angle for the Y opening and an aspect ratio. So they did something like "Perspective( 50deg , Width/Height , near , far)"

m yes i agree aswell
shallow and pedantic
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
teapot
Profile Joined October 2007
United Kingdom266 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-20 14:50:49
February 20 2010 14:25 GMT
#40
On February 20 2010 23:19 Chuiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2010 21:04 teapot wrote:
On February 20 2010 19:40 otmar wrote:
Alot of the top war3 players use CRT monitors.. do you guys think this will be a disadvantage in sc2?


The game is optimised for 16 : 9.

All other resolutions are cropped from the 16 : 9 and will be disadvantaged in the amount of map on display.

IMO this is what should be on display:

Why should 16:10 get the advantage over both both other aspects? It should be like this:

[image loading]


OK, that is best. I prefer your version.

btw look at Bioshock 2's supposed "fixed" widescreen support...

http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/article/widescreenannouncement

They couldn't get it right for BS1 and now they fail again for BS2... :r
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