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On June 02 2010 02:50 hacpee wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2010 19:08 decemvrie wrote:
What i think is that all of you fan-girls are only undermining Sean's ability to improve his casting through constructive feedback. Besides thats the first thing that sponsors who don't know or understand the game will notice. Sean could be as insightful as he wants if the people who don't play StarCraft or StarCraft2 dislike his vocabulary and Sean stands to lose the most.
His brother had the same problem with constantly repeating the phrase "at this point in time" during the GOM TV casting.
P.S. Sean could do a daily while sitting on the toilet and people like you would think it was brilliant and cheer every time he flushed... Very good point. Criticism is very good. I for one don't like how Day9 pauses so much. The stream would be more streamlined if you paused only when needed(when you need 30+ seconds to state your point), and stated important points as they are going on. This is especially frustrating when he does this frequently in the beginning, then Fast Fowards 8x in the last 1/4th of the game because he doesn't have time. Better time management means better casts. Good luck on cast 128.
Perfectly valid point, but I'll offer one observation. He frequently fast forwards the end of the matches he explains on the D9D because he doesn't care about the ending. The learning, the meat, of Starcraft happens at the beginning. The formation of the strategy, the execution, etc. As he's said in many casts, people tend to get too caught up in the battles that were fought throughout the match, when usually, the match was decided by a crucial event in the first half of the game. After that, there's a lot of flailing as people try to recover or press their advantage.
Certainly there are important lessons to learn at that point of the game, but Day concentrates on the early-to-mid-game in general, unless he is focusing on something particular near the end of the match, or trying to show something for enjoyment.
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How can I get that shirt :D it's awsome
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did he just end the cast when it was about to go to game 5
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He did not, and the 5th games was soooo awesome 
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If you watch the games yourself before you watch the daily if you can find them the pausing will stop bothering you. I've been doing that and not only does the pausing not bother me, but I learn more.
My main request for him is to include a replay link to DL from for SC2 games.
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hey guys i've read the ustream lags for lots of ppl, spikes every few seconds but i haven't found a solution when i searched (if there's any), could anyone help me?
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Anyone else notice how Day9 fakes interest when he got a cocaster that talks for more than 5 seconds at once? "Hmm....hmmm.....hmmm." :D
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He doesn't really fake it, he is just an incredibly incredibly nice guy it seems. Whenever his cocaster gets in trouble and doesnt know what to say, he saves him somehow and makes sure his cocaster has some time to recover and then he asks him about what he failed at before, so he can answer properly and doesn't need to feel embarassed. It sounds complicated and weird but he is just really really nice.
On a different note, I haven't seen a Day9daily get uploaded since the White-rA PvZ. I am really really disappointed by now. Am I just looking in the wrong places?
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On June 02 2010 06:54 Yeld wrote:
On a different note, I haven't seen a Day9daily get uploaded since the White-rA PvZ. I am really really disappointed by now. Am I just looking in the wrong places?
Yeah you are, just check out the blip.tv link. There are plenty of uploads that hasnt been listed in the thread yet.
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the new vids are up @ the bliptv link
Edit: beat me 
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On June 02 2010 06:57 Badjez. wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2010 06:54 Yeld wrote:
On a different note, I haven't seen a Day9daily get uploaded since the White-rA PvZ. I am really really disappointed by now. Am I just looking in the wrong places? Yeah you are, just check out the blip.tv link. There are plenty of uploads that hasnt been listed in the thread yet.
Yeah, just watched the episodes that I was unable to watch live, wish he'd edit the OP with them but Day[9] is still human, can't expect him to solve global warming or anything, cheers to Day[9]!
Unfortunately I will be unable to attend tonights episode though :|
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On June 02 2010 03:04 ymirheim wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2010 19:08 decemvrie wrote:
What i think is that all of you fan-girls are only undermining Sean's ability to improve his casting through constructive feedback. Besides thats the first thing that sponsors who don't know or understand the game will notice. Sean could be as insightful as he wants if the people who don't play StarCraft or StarCraft2 dislike his vocabulary and Sean stands to lose the most.
His brother had the same problem with constantly repeating the phrase "at this point in time" during the GOM TV casting.
P.S. Sean could do a daily while sitting on the toilet and people like you would think it was brilliant and cheer every time he flushed... You seem to just be asserting that because you are for some reason bugged by the use of certain words then everyone is and especially sponsors are. This is how people in real life talk, everyone has words or phrases that they use a lot. This may not be intentional but it still creates diversity among casters making them unique, and fortunately there are enough casters out there that if you don't like the way someone is talking then there are plenty others to listen to.
That is so lame. "If you don't like it, you can go someplace else." You can kill any criticism with that. While in each instant undoubtedly true, the statement totally misses the point of what the use of criticism is and says absolutely nothing about its validity.
I don't know why people are so bad at arguing that whenever someone does not agree with them it HAS to be because they are blind fanboys or whatever. Just because you have the ability to type criticism does not make said criticism rational. You are just asserting that this is bad, "stop it to be better". When you have in fact offered neither evidence nor any statistics suggesting that this is bad or that the majority of listeners agree with you.
My God, rational, statistics, evidence - wtf are you talking about? He, as a viewer, expressed his opinion. There's something about Day[9]s casts he doesn't like. If one viewer is annoyed by this something, other viewers might be too. Might also not be. Day[9] might be interested in what this particular viewer thinks. Might also not be. That is for him to decide.
Now, what exactly is the problem?
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On June 02 2010 03:16 Baum wrote:Show nested quote +[B]On June 02 2010 02 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 02 2010 I for one don't like how Day9 pauses so much. The stream would be more streamlined if you paused only when needed(when you need 30+ seconds to state your point), and stated important points as they are going on. This is especially frustrating when he does this frequently in the beginning, then Fast Fowards 8x in the last 1/4th of the game because he doesn't have time. Better time management means better casts. Good luck on cast 128. Day9 isn't trying to give you a VOD of the replays he casts in his daylies. There is a point why he pauses more often early game instead of analyzing every part of a "oh so epic" late game. The early game most of the time determines where the match is going and people tend to not realize this. Day9 tends to skip the late stages of games because there aren't as many valid points to be made for a proper analysis. And he openly tries to make that point himself so it seems you didn't get his message, yet.
The point is that he pauses for 30 seconds, then when he restarts, he says "that's cool", or totally awesome play by XXX for 30 seconds. He could have just pointed that thing out, paused for 5 seconds to show us, then continued rabbling while the action goes one.
Also, I would love it if he analyzed late game play, told us what the player is thinking at that point, and suggested what the losing player could have done better.He used to do that with the pro-league vods but he doesn't do that with the SC2 ones. I get that he wants to have a theme but the theme concept can get very old very fast. At some point, you want to just watch good games.
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Very interesting comments re Day[9]'s style.
As regards the repeat adjectives, I agree that he has his own idiom and it's endearing, and hence there's nothing wrong with it per se. I also think, if you listen to professional professional sports commentary, they repeat adjectives and descriptive phrases all the time - the truth is, when you are excited and narrating action live, your brain tends to go for your storehouse of stock phrases.
Now it is true of course that the dailies are not live game commentary - but he is one guy doing one a day, it's not a scripted performance, and while (according to his Elitist interview - great interview Day btw!) he does prepare his basic theme and key points in advance, there is a large on-the-fly factor. This obviously involves some compromise. I think the compromise he has reached thus far is pretty reasonable. I don't think it would be a great advantage to switch to a once-a-week, more carefully scripted, power-point slide style format. Podcasts and suchlike as a medium tend to be more conversational and casual and the dailies are similarly informal in style. So if I was advising Day on a future career in politics, sure, I'd tell him you have to try to slow down a little and form your phrases in your head a bit more before speaking. But this is not a political broadcast or even a lecture. It's an informal fireside chat. Forget the crooked glasses, pipe and slippers Day, we wanna see em.
Re the skipping around replays, I agree with the comments above that the dailies are not game commentary, in the sense of "telling the story" of a game. They are tactical analysis and free rumination on nerdling psychology and suchlike. Re the second-order criticism that to date a lot of the dailies have spoken in detail about the early game and tend to gloss over lategame - factually that's true enough, I presume Day has good reasons to focus on early game/mid game content. He says he is very interested in promoting the sport and finding ways to clue in new or weaker players, so maybe talking about the early game and mid game is more manageable for such audiences (this includes me I should say). That said, I agree it wouldn't be a bad thing for Day to invert his focus some of the time and talk a bit about how to multitask all the insane macro/micro stuff that can typically be taking place in the later stages.
But yeah in summary, I think it's important to remember the genre - it's a live one-man video/podcast/whatever. For me at least I find more value in the frequency than I would in polished scripting.
My 2 minerals. Keep up the good work Day! Wheeeee!
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he has about 3-4 times the amount of viewers then any other daily show.
i think he is doing something right.
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So the stream froze on this face for me, lol:
![[image loading]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/jokey665/day9.jpg)
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Any chance you could host the "offline" BW vids on bliptv or something? I really want to see some analysis on broodwar since I'm going back to playing that, and my selection is limited. Thanks a lot and keep up the good work .
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@stane,
100% of my videos are uploaded at blip. Can you not view them?
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Hey Sean,
Any chance you can throw up the replay for the match, on Blistering Sands, in today's (#128) daily?
Thanks in advanced. :D
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This is the first day9 daily that I've ever watched where it didn't stutter and paused constantly. And I was on skype, watching another Livestream, and logged into Sc2 at the same time. Normally I have to log out of everything, and have nothing going but 1 window of your daily to not get it to stutter every 10 seconds.
Kinda odd if you ask me 
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