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reddog1999
Profile Joined June 2009
United States143 Posts
September 02 2009 06:59 GMT
#61
another reason for 2010 release ;/
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
September 02 2009 07:06 GMT
#62
That's really fucking stupid imo. I don't live in Germany, but if I did I would be pissed.
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MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
September 02 2009 07:16 GMT
#63
A few FPS games in Germany were censored such that dead body ragdolls couldn't be affected by explosions or bullets. How fucking crazy is that? You can't shoot a lifeless body, but a live one? Sure! (as long as it isn't too gory of course)
Duckvillelol
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia1240 Posts
September 02 2009 07:31 GMT
#64
On September 02 2009 09:55 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2009 09:53 DeCoup wrote:
I'm guessing China will get the same copy as Germany then based on their recent event bans?

Btw. Wheres the option 'Good because this means they will not lower the gore on all versions just for more censored countries. That's the first thing I was worried about during all the hype of China blocking their events earlier this year.


wasn't australia also ridiculously strict on violent video games?


There are some incredibly stupid policies regarding censorship here in Oz, although part of the problem I think (other aussies who know more can give better info) is that we had no censorship system for games at all until 1994, after a big debacle with Mortal Kombat.

Currently the maximum classification we have is MA+15 -> You need to be over 15 to purchase the game. So this "maximum" that we have has caused a block on some of the games that have "wanted" to come through in whole, with no editing - but simply because of the fact that we have no 18+ classification, they can't be sold, without editing. Prime example of this (and quite a hilarious example IMO) is GTA3.

It was refused classification here in Australia because of the fact that you could 'pay to have sex with a prostitue, then kill her'. So it was edited, in our version (the legitimate version at least) you cannot pay to have sex with the prostitutes - but you can kill them all day if you want.

It's incredibly ridiculous and as far as I know the only reason we are being blocked from having an 18+ classification is because of a guy named Michael Atkinson who is in the Government, who keeps cock-blocking attempts to get a 18+ classification here in Oz.

So hopefully there will be some sort of option - depending on the whole outcome of this 'editing' - so that adults like myself and - to be quite honest - probably 75 - 80% of SC2 customers here in Oz - will be able to play an un-edited version of the game, just as you folks abroad will be able to

More info here: Censorship_in_Australia - Video_games
Former SC2 commentator. youtube.com/duckvillelol
Sewi
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany1697 Posts
September 02 2009 07:40 GMT
#65
I dont care, I think I will play the English version anyways
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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15326 Posts
September 02 2009 07:51 GMT
#66
On September 02 2009 16:31 Duckvillelol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2009 09:55 7mk wrote:
On September 02 2009 09:53 DeCoup wrote:
I'm guessing China will get the same copy as Germany then based on their recent event bans?

Btw. Wheres the option 'Good because this means they will not lower the gore on all versions just for more censored countries. That's the first thing I was worried about during all the hype of China blocking their events earlier this year.


wasn't australia also ridiculously strict on violent video games?

There are some incredibly stupid policies regarding censorship here in Oz, although part of the problem I think (other aussies who know more can give better info) is that we had no censorship system for games at all until 1994, after a big debacle with Mortal Kombat.

More info here: Censorship_in_Australia - Video_games

Wait do I get this right? So games that don't get the 15+ rating are auto-banned from being sold in Australia? Like, completely, even for adults? Or can you sell them in for example adults-only stores? If not that is censorship what the fuck.
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Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
September 02 2009 09:45 GMT
#67
On September 02 2009 16:51 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2009 16:31 Duckvillelol wrote:
On September 02 2009 09:55 7mk wrote:
On September 02 2009 09:53 DeCoup wrote:
I'm guessing China will get the same copy as Germany then based on their recent event bans?

Btw. Wheres the option 'Good because this means they will not lower the gore on all versions just for more censored countries. That's the first thing I was worried about during all the hype of China blocking their events earlier this year.


wasn't australia also ridiculously strict on violent video games?

There are some incredibly stupid policies regarding censorship here in Oz, although part of the problem I think (other aussies who know more can give better info) is that we had no censorship system for games at all until 1994, after a big debacle with Mortal Kombat.

More info here: Censorship_in_Australia - Video_games

Wait do I get this right? So games that don't get the 15+ rating are auto-banned from being sold in Australia? Like, completely, even for adults? Or can you sell them in for example adults-only stores? If not that is censorship what the fuck.


Yep, youve got it correct

There was a push to get a R18+ Rating brought in so we could sell games with a higher rating, however some politician has some veto right and vetoed the bill because he doesn't believe in violent video games (the dude is like 70 years old and has never played a video game in his life). Due to that, if a game doesn't fit into the MA15+ rating, it is illegal to sell it in Aus.
DeCoup
Profile Joined September 2006
Australia1933 Posts
September 02 2009 10:10 GMT
#68
On September 02 2009 16:51 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2009 16:31 Duckvillelol wrote:
On September 02 2009 09:55 7mk wrote:
On September 02 2009 09:53 DeCoup wrote:
I'm guessing China will get the same copy as Germany then based on their recent event bans?

Btw. Wheres the option 'Good because this means they will not lower the gore on all versions just for more censored countries. That's the first thing I was worried about during all the hype of China blocking their events earlier this year.


wasn't australia also ridiculously strict on violent video games?

There are some incredibly stupid policies regarding censorship here in Oz, although part of the problem I think (other aussies who know more can give better info) is that we had no censorship system for games at all until 1994, after a big debacle with Mortal Kombat.

More info here: Censorship_in_Australia - Video_games

Wait do I get this right? So games that don't get the 15+ rating are auto-banned from being sold in Australia? Like, completely, even for adults? Or can you sell them in for example adults-only stores? If not that is censorship what the fuck.


No they are not auto-banned. We just get a lower gore version. But I don't expect this to effect us with SC2 because it does not look more than (the Australian version of) MA+ anyway. That level of gore is fine.
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[DUF]MethodMan
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany1716 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-02 10:47:11
September 02 2009 10:43 GMT
#69
On September 02 2009 16:16 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
A few FPS games in Germany were censored such that dead body ragdolls couldn't be affected by explosions or bullets. How fucking crazy is that? You can't shoot a lifeless body, but a live one? Sure! (as long as it isn't too gory of course)


The German CS version was the best. It's death animation was censored so bad, when you fragged someone instead of falling over he would just sit down lol.
I didn't find a video to CS 1.6 but it seems CS:S also has some pretty retarded death animation :D


Seriously, what's the use of censoring in such a way? The only thing which might happen will be young kids thinking if you shoot someone he'll just lie or sit down on the floor.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-02 11:30:05
September 02 2009 11:29 GMT
#70
w/e, I'll buy the UK version anyway (as I do for all games pretty much)

still dumb though
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besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
September 02 2009 11:48 GMT
#71
censorship sucks balls, i cant remember in which country exactly (could be Italy or Germany) they actually had the police raid lan parties where people were playing " forbidden games" and confiscate their computers. Talk about not having anything better for the police to do.
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Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
September 02 2009 12:47 GMT
#72
On September 02 2009 19:43 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2009 16:16 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
A few FPS games in Germany were censored such that dead body ragdolls couldn't be affected by explosions or bullets. How fucking crazy is that? You can't shoot a lifeless body, but a live one? Sure! (as long as it isn't too gory of course)


The German CS version was the best. It's death animation was censored so bad, when you fragged someone instead of falling over he would just sit down lol.
I didn't find a video to CS 1.6 but it seems CS:S also has some pretty retarded death animation :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3xlSyjTpj4

Seriously, what's the use of censoring in such a way? The only thing which might happen will be young kids thinking if you shoot someone he'll just lie or sit down on the floor.

That video is hilarious, they just get down on the ground and put their hands on their heads lol, that's so bad...how can anyone play like that?
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uNiGNoRe
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Germany1115 Posts
September 02 2009 13:43 GMT
#73
I'll buy the UK version as well. But I'm pretty sure you could as well just buy the german version and download the US client from your Battle.net account. That's what I did with all other Blizzard games I have.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10699 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-02 13:45:48
September 02 2009 13:43 GMT
#74
Germans get less blood in games.
Americans get less titties in movies/tv.

Others point and laugh :p


Seriously, wouldn't bother me much even if I would be affected, I really couldn't care less about the blood in SC2 as long as it is not as retarded as in Counterstrike... But I would be pissed about it in Diablo 3.

Hm.. D3 with Monsters just sitting down instead of splattering... ... ... :D
Zinbiel
Profile Joined October 2008
Sweden878 Posts
September 02 2009 14:02 GMT
#75
I am very angry now.
Backho fan since 080416. Favourite terran: Mind. Favourite Zerg: Jaedong.
FaZiNaTe
Profile Joined August 2009
Germany290 Posts
September 02 2009 14:33 GMT
#76
So all german get better against Zerg because not much effect @ GER Version and u can play better "maybe"^^
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beigezombie
Profile Joined October 2005
29 Posts
September 02 2009 17:50 GMT
#77
This pisses me off. It probably won't affect me directly since I import all my games from the UK anyway but I still find it offensive.
The guy makes it sound like their doing german gamers a favor and that's bullshit.
I don't believe for a second that behind this decision is anything but pure greed.
Nearly no one actually wants a censored game and I bet the majority of people who buy the german version of sc2/d3 won't even realize it at first.
It's true that germany has the strictest rating system in the EU and afaik we're the only ones not using the PEGI system but the only way I see this changing anytime soon is when our beloved politicians realize that germany is actually losing money because of this.
For that to happen we need more video game companies that have the balls not so sell their game in germany at all if they're not satisfied with the rating from the USK.
A recent example for this would be X-Men Origins Wolverine (distributed by Activision Blizzard btw.): It wasn't officially released in germany but that didn't stop anyone interested in this game from buying it.
Importing games within the EU today is easy, cheap and fast. All you need to do is type amazon.co.uk instead of amazon.de and wait 1-2 days longer. That's it. No german gamer needs to miss out on something because of the USK.
If the developers continue to censor their own games they're not helping us and they're ripping us of.
I'm supposed to go to my local store and pay 50-70€ for a censored and most likely poorly translated version of a game I've been looking forward to for over 10 years?
Fuck that.
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
September 02 2009 18:06 GMT
#78
censorship.
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Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
September 02 2009 18:29 GMT
#79
On September 02 2009 16:31 Duckvillelol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2009 09:55 7mk wrote:
On September 02 2009 09:53 DeCoup wrote:
I'm guessing China will get the same copy as Germany then based on their recent event bans?

Btw. Wheres the option 'Good because this means they will not lower the gore on all versions just for more censored countries. That's the first thing I was worried about during all the hype of China blocking their events earlier this year.


wasn't australia also ridiculously strict on violent video games?


There are some incredibly stupid policies regarding censorship here in Oz, although part of the problem I think (other aussies who know more can give better info) is that we had no censorship system for games at all until 1994, after a big debacle with Mortal Kombat.

Currently the maximum classification we have is MA+15 -> You need to be over 15 to purchase the game. So this "maximum" that we have has caused a block on some of the games that have "wanted" to come through in whole, with no editing - but simply because of the fact that we have no 18+ classification, they can't be sold, without editing. Prime example of this (and quite a hilarious example IMO) is GTA3.

It was refused classification here in Australia because of the fact that you could 'pay to have sex with a prostitue, then kill her'. So it was edited, in our version (the legitimate version at least) you cannot pay to have sex with the prostitutes - but you can kill them all day if you want.

It's incredibly ridiculous and as far as I know the only reason we are being blocked from having an 18+ classification is because of a guy named Michael Atkinson who is in the Government, who keeps cock-blocking attempts to get a 18+ classification here in Oz.

So hopefully there will be some sort of option - depending on the whole outcome of this 'editing' - so that adults like myself and - to be quite honest - probably 75 - 80% of SC2 customers here in Oz - will be able to play an un-edited version of the game, just as you folks abroad will be able to

More info here: Censorship_in_Australia - Video_games

I've always thought it was funny how some countries censor violence, and others censor sex. Like in Germany where violent video games are censored, and yet nobody minds that they'll show porn on mainstream TV channels. The US is the opposite- can't show nudity on TV, but violence is no problem. Korea seems to be like that too, but even more so.
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
September 02 2009 18:49 GMT
#80
man if i was in germany right now i'd probably *sit down* myself.
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