EPTOrbital Command
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monad
United States156 Posts
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esla_sol
United States756 Posts
its not like is a mission where it could really come in handly, like the two you have to liftoff. on the dig you can just throw up a cc right away at the natural, plenty of income there. | ||
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monad
United States156 Posts
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
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monad
United States156 Posts
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
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Apollys
United States278 Posts
On August 15 2010 20:03 Carnac wrote: Orbital Command actually is an upgrade in the ship's armory, but I don't know what the requirements for its availability are (wondered about it yesterday actually). Yeah, it's probably a certain number of missions, although it could be a specific mission completion... Not sure about this either. Anywa, regarding the dig mission, I was too lazy to get the achievement on brutal, so I just replayed it on hard and, wheeeeee yipeeeee-ki-yayyy | ||
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monad
United States156 Posts
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
I got it on moebius mission my second play through, and I know I had it by the dig earlier so I'm pretty sure it's a specific amount of missions you have to play through to access the upgrade in the armory. | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
On August 15 2010 19:16 cascades wrote: Tip : Float rax instead of building mnm with spare mins. Works really well Also never took the expand | ||
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WiljushkA
Serbia1416 Posts
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On August 16 2010 00:42 WiljushkA wrote: i think you get it after you complete one of the zeratul missions, which you can only get if you finish the dig, so id say theres no way to have the orbital command for the dig. Nah, I had orbital for the dig once because I remember scanning a lot. I still think it's a certain number of missions... maybe 13,14, or 15 completed before you get access to it. You would pretty much have to finish up the Tosh, Horner, and Hanson mission lines to get Orbital before the Dig though.. | ||
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shawabawa
United Kingdom417 Posts
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buhhy
United States1113 Posts
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neobowman
Canada3324 Posts
I was thinking, maybe you don't need orbital command. Unlike multiplayer, the general strategy I use is mass up and defend until I'm mined out, then attack. In that sense, you don't need to mine faster at all. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
Use laser to target protoss buildings... they will keep rebuilding them so you can just rack up free building kills. Of course you need vikings so that means you had to do safe haven/haven's fall... but that's far faster than doing all of the missions to get to orbital command before the dig. | ||
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Chuiu
3470 Posts
On August 16 2010 00:28 Sanguinarius wrote: Works really well Also never took the expand +1 same here. Mass sieged tanks do the job well of defending. | ||
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monad
United States156 Posts
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9858 Posts
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TriniMasta
United States1323 Posts
1) Orbital CC 2) Something else It wasn't just rewarded instantly, you had to choose. I chose OC because a mule as soon as a mission with like 4-6 scvs helps a lot/ | ||
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monad
United States156 Posts
On August 16 2010 11:16 Skillz_Man wrote: I'm just wondering if you tried beating this just by taking your 2nd base early holding with tanks, and mass a huge marine/medic army? You can just stomp them that way, a very easy strategy... If you really want to go out of your way to get an OC; go ahead, but it's really not necessary. Are you talking about The Dig or Engine of Destruction? Turned out The Dig was easier than I remembered on Brutal, as long as you take out colossus and immortals with the laser everything else drops like candy to tanks. EoD is really hard though, I can make it to the 3rd base, but I always get stomped in the 3rd base. I don't even have enough time to get more than like 5 wraiths by the time he goes into the second base . I try to sneak in and snipe the raven so that I can kill the Battlecruiser and the siege tanks before Odin gets there, but it never works. I always lose like 3 or 4 wraiths to marines on the ground. I've been doing other missions now to build up research and armory upgrades, and now I have the building that tech that gets you gas 25% faster, and with Orbital Command I can get a nice economy boost up front. And hopefully with tanks I can just siege a few in front of the second / third base and fly in with wraiths to take out the upper level defenses. I guess I'll do a few Prophecy missions to for Protoss research points so that I can get the automatic gas refinery. idk why I can't do it, everyone says they do it by making nothing but wraiths, 0 other units besides wraiths, but it doesn't work at all when I do that. Odin gets decimated in about 5 seconds in the second base, and if I try to bring SCVs to repair him, the enemies selectively snipe off the SCVs and my economy is in shambles because I lost so many SCVs. | ||
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monad
United States156 Posts
On August 16 2010 12:42 TriniMasta wrote: Really? I remember there was an alternative to it 1) Orbital CC 2) Something else It wasn't just rewarded instantly, you had to choose. I chose OC because a mule as soon as a mission with like 4-6 scvs helps a lot/ I just got OC, and yea it's definitely just an armory upgrade. Of course there's an alternative, as there is with all armory upgrades each item has 2 upgrades, but it's not a research upgrade where you have to choose 1 or the other. You might be thinking of PF, which *is* a research upgrade, and is an alternative to the Perdition Turret. | ||
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Archon_Wing
United States378 Posts
On August 16 2010 14:45 monad wrote: Are you talking about The Dig or Engine of Destruction? Turned out The Dig was easier than I remembered on Brutal, as long as you take out colossus and immortals with the laser everything else drops like candy to tanks. EoD is really hard though, I can make it to the 3rd base, but I always get stomped in the 3rd base. I don't even have enough time to get more than like 5 wraiths by the time he goes into the second base . I try to sneak in and snipe the raven so that I can kill the Battlecruiser and the siege tanks before Odin gets there, but it never works. I always lose like 3 or 4 wraiths to marines on the ground. I've been doing other missions now to build up research and armory upgrades, and now I have the building that tech that gets you gas 25% faster, and with Orbital Command I can get a nice economy boost up front. And hopefully with tanks I can just siege a few in front of the second / third base and fly in with wraiths to take out the upper level defenses. I guess I'll do a few Prophecy missions to for Protoss research points so that I can get the automatic gas refinery. idk why I can't do it, everyone says they do it by making nothing but wraiths, 0 other units besides wraiths, but it doesn't work at all when I do that. Odin gets decimated in about 5 seconds in the second base, and if I try to bring SCVs to repair him, the enemies selectively snipe off the SCVs and my economy is in shambles because I lost so many SCVs. Yea, Engine of Destruction is friggin annoying on Brutal because the Odin seems to die hella fast and scvs get sniped. I beat it by building almost nothing but vikings to take out air and random tanks /w vessels for healing. If you take out the air with vikings (for whatever reason, wraiths didn't cut it for me either), it's not too bad. Also, getting the tank and marauder mercs is useful as well. | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On August 16 2010 14:45 monad wrote: EoD is really hard though, I can make it to the 3rd base, but I always get stomped in the 3rd base. I don't even have enough time to get more than like 5 wraiths by the time he goes into the second base . I try to sneak in and snipe the raven so that I can kill the Battlecruiser and the siege tanks before Odin gets there, but it never works. I always lose like 3 or 4 wraiths to marines on the ground. Getting a little sidetracked, but: Keeping all the wraiths you start with (and making a few extra from 1 port) should give you a small but acceptable number (6-8 or so) by base three, while having some SVs as well (preferably). Make a ground army comprised of marauder/medic - the extra hp compared to more common marine/medic is for taking tank hits. Before the Odin gears up to go in, focus on sniping tanks in the base with wraiths because they're the biggest source of damage - ravens take awhile to kill and force you into the detection radius, so avoid them when possible. At the point Odin actually goes in, send your marauder/medic in first - let them soak up the bulk of the offense while the Odin opens fire. Use the wraiths during the breach to pick off key targets (tanks, or BCs in the later bases). Your focus should be to keep damage off the Odin by letting the infantry take a share, and quickly knocking out the heaviest damage dealers using a squad of wraiths (this also helps a lot for the 30% health achievement on brutal). This is key in the later bases where the sheer firepower can knock out the Odin rapidly if it takes the full force of the AI. When I did EoD I had tech reactors, autorefineries, and SVs, which were key for pumping marauder/medic and wraith/sv. Those were essentially the only units I made (besides a few varied other things for defense in between the Odin's attacks). | ||
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Phayze
Canada2029 Posts
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