EPT2023 - 2024 Football Thread - Page 37
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gTank
Austria2666 Posts
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DropBear
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27368 Posts
For me it’s not an outrage, equally he wasn’t the sole outstanding candidate. Mbappe had a great year, as did Haaland. Although the latter I feel he’s more a great cog in a ruthless machine, which the voting somewhat reflected with 3 City players in the top 5 and 5 in the top 10 It’s an award that bounces around in how much they weigh individual performance, and outstanding achievement as part of a collective. If they could just settle on one criteria I think that would work better. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18746 Posts
On October 31 2023 23:13 WombaT wrote: The World Cup has long been hugely weighted as Cannavaro and Modric found when they won it. It’s not like he had an atrocious club season either, and he did carry a pretty average Argentine side to the World Cup For me it’s not an outrage, equally he wasn’t the sole outstanding candidate. Mbappe had a great year, as did Haaland. Although the latter I feel he’s more a great cog in a ruthless machine, which the voting somewhat reflected with 3 City players in the top 5 and 5 in the top 10 It’s an award that bounces around in how much they weigh individual performance, and outstanding achievement as part of a collective. If they could just settle on one criteria I think that would work better. Modric award was not just world cup... Have you forgotton what Real did that year? | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8925 Posts
On November 01 2023 00:53 sharkie wrote: Modric award was not just world cup... Have you forgotton what Real did that year? if the world cup didnt carry so much weight that years ballon dor should have been ronaldos. heck, personally i think it should have been ronaldos regardless seeing as modric didnt actually win the world cup | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27368 Posts
On November 01 2023 02:50 evilfatsh1t wrote: if the world cup didnt carry so much weight that years ballon dor should have been ronaldos. heck, personally i think it should have been ronaldos regardless seeing as modric didnt actually win the world cup It honestly felt like a Ballon D’Or to interrupt the Messi/Ronaldo duopoly on it as much as anything else. Don’t get me wrong he had a great year but above those two? The only real robberies IMO are Sneijder in 2010, Ribbery in (2013?) and the year Lewandoski was sure to win it only for Covid to see it cancelled. This year it’s certainly debatable, there isn’t a singular outstanding candidate that’s obvious, but on historical World Cup weighting which always happens Messi’s got a case. Haaland was a goal machine all year, but for me Mbappe and KDB were more influential footballers for their respective sides. Also fuck me Saudi Arabia for 34, really? As I hit adulthood and finally having a little disposable income am I just going to be cursed with World Cups extremely expensive to go to, or ones I actively don’t want to go to? | ||
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DropBear
Australia4436 Posts
On November 01 2023 04:17 WombaT wrote: It honestly felt like a Ballon D’Or to interrupt the Messi/Ronaldo duopoly on it as much as anything else. Don’t get me wrong he had a great year but above those two? The only real robberies IMO are Sneijder in 2010, Ribbery in (2013?) and the year Lewandoski was sure to win it only for Covid to see it cancelled. This year it’s certainly debatable, there isn’t a singular outstanding candidate that’s obvious, but on historical World Cup weighting which always happens Messi’s got a case. Haaland was a goal machine all year, but for me Mbappe and KDB were more influential footballers for their respective sides. Also fuck me Saudi Arabia for 34, really? As I hit adulthood and finally having a little disposable income am I just going to be cursed with World Cups extremely expensive to go to, or ones I actively don’t want to go to? It's ok, you can go to the combined 2038 extravaganza in Mali, Belarus, Venezuela, El Salvador and Antarctica! Or 2042 in Bahrain! | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27368 Posts
On November 01 2023 13:37 DropBear wrote: It's ok, you can go to the combined 2038 extravaganza in Mali, Belarus, Venezuela, El Salvador and Antarctica! Or 2042 in Bahrain! Haha I’d barely put it past them at this stage. It’s a problem of their own making, pointlessly expanding a World Cup that was pretty much the right size and making it so barely any singular nation can host it, making the format wonky and diluting the quality. Portugal/Spain/Morocco isn’t too bad, I’ve just got zero interest in going to bloomin Gulf States. I’d love to visit other parts of the Arab world for a tournament, just not the petro states that can buy anything but affection. What does England have to do to get one? It’s probably got the most, and most concentrated set of World Cup standard football specific stadiums in the world, plenty of other infrastructure already there. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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GTR
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27368 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18746 Posts
Bayern was just kicked out of DFB Cup by Saarbrücken hahahaha. Tuchel is a GREAT coach  | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7406 Posts
On November 02 2023 06:46 sharkie wrote: Kane could seriously win not a single trophy this season with Bayern. Bayern was just kicked out of DFB Cup by Saarbrücken hahahaha. Tuchel is a GREAT coach This is as much Tuchels fault as it is a upper management fault. I said so earlier in this thread. Bayern has basically the smallest squad out of any first league team in Europe (this might be exaggerated, didn't check ^^). This just couldn't go well | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28894 Posts
But do they care? How important is the DFB cup for Bayern? Top English teams have a history of not caring at all about the league cup, while the FA up has been considered slightly more important, while the second best teams care more because that's their best chance for a trophy.. I'm asking more than making a statement, here. | ||
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DropBear
Australia4436 Posts
It's not the loan that surprised me, it's the obligation to buy. Surely he's worth holding onto? | ||
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justanothertownie
16342 Posts
On November 02 2023 19:24 Liquid`Drone wrote: While this wasn't their top team, clearly their squad should still have the quality to beat Saarbrücken. But do they care? How important is the DFB cup for Bayern? Top English teams have a history of not caring at all about the league cup, while the FA up has been considered slightly more important, while the second best teams care more because that's their best chance for a trophy.. I'm asking more than making a statement, here. They do care but it is definitely the least important competition and they have bombed out often in recent years. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18746 Posts
On November 02 2023 19:11 Harris1st wrote: This is as much Tuchels fault as it is a upper management fault. I said so earlier in this thread. Bayern has basically the smallest squad out of any first league team in Europe (this might be exaggerated, didn't check ^^). This just couldn't go well Tuchel is on record that he allowed both Stanisic (to Leverkusen who can play back 4) and Gravenberch (DM/6 who could prolly also play CB if needed to) because he does not need them. This is Tuchel's fault. And DFB Cup is something Tuchel cares nothing for it and Bayern bosses (Uli Hoeness) care quite a bit. Uli always wants to win all the trophies in Germany | ||
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justanothertownie
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{CC}StealthBlue
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