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KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4385 Posts
June 20 2024 19:31 GMT
#2421
Spain looking sharp right now. They are making italy look rubish
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18746 Posts
June 20 2024 20:14 GMT
#2422
Has the game become too fast that we see so many own goals?
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4385 Posts
June 20 2024 20:29 GMT
#2423
On June 21 2024 05:14 sharkie wrote:
Has the game become too fast that we see so many own goals?


I think it was the deflection he was set on that motion and couldnt avoid it.

Spanish wingers both almost had a screamer goal
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mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
June 20 2024 21:35 GMT
#2424
On June 21 2024 05:14 sharkie wrote:
Has the game become too fast that we see so many own goals?


This trend started a few tournaments ago.

WC '18 had 12 own goals (maximum before was 6)
Euro '21 had 9 (all euros before had a total of 9 own goals)
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10563 Posts
June 20 2024 23:00 GMT
#2425
On June 21 2024 03:48 Pandemona wrote:
Should be Eze or Palmer ahead of Gordon, but yeah thats what i would do. Player Walker at left back if you have to play back 4, if not play the back 3 this squad screaming out for with Trent at wingback.

Problem is I think you'd still play Saka at wingback over Trent, play Kane up top and let Foden and Bellingham be your 10s. Then have Walker as the wingback on the other side with Rice and Mainoo through the middle as the 6s, and 3 back.

In theory, you could play Walker as the LCB and let him have some freedom to create width in possession with the 3 back set up, and slot Saka on as the LWB with Trent as the RWB if you wanted Trent to start. In either case, you're likely dropping Trippier from the starting XI.
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MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1451 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-06-21 08:40:44
June 21 2024 07:30 GMT
#2426
On June 21 2024 08:00 FlaShFTW wrote:
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On June 21 2024 03:48 Pandemona wrote:
Should be Eze or Palmer ahead of Gordon, but yeah thats what i would do. Player Walker at left back if you have to play back 4, if not play the back 3 this squad screaming out for with Trent at wingback.

Problem is I think you'd still play Saka at wingback over Trent, play Kane up top and let Foden and Bellingham be your 10s. Then have Walker as the wingback on the other side with Rice and Mainoo through the middle as the 6s, and 3 back.

In theory, you could play Walker as the LCB and let him have some freedom to create width in possession with the 3 back set up, and slot Saka on as the LWB with Trent as the RWB if you wanted Trent to start. In either case, you're likely dropping Trippier from the starting XI.

We have all these wingers who don't want to be wingers.

I'd honestly play a Christmas Tree.

I may be slightly obsessed with the idea because I find it amusing.

That said, I think the English fans and media are doing their normal trick of panicking despite the fact England have (basically) secured qualification for the next round and are still unbeaten. The only goal they've conceded was a 25 yard drive, and in both games they've been denied more goals by the woodwork. Maybe the team wouldn't play so nervously if everyone calmed the fuck down, but that's never going to happen in this country.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7406 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-06-21 09:16:31
June 21 2024 09:14 GMT
#2427
Lol Engerland was so bad. Foden was like "Why are you all just standing around? Why is noone running? What is this game?" He is so used to the highspeed game that City does he really can't play any other way anymore
Kanes goal was pure chance. Only Saka and Bellingham playing somewhat decently so far.
Before the EURO I was a bit scared we would meet England in Ro16 and have a hard time. Not anymore

Spain though. Wow. Only finishing left something to be desired.
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 21 2024 17:02 GMT
#2428
On June 21 2024 04:22 Shellshock wrote:
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On June 21 2024 03:25 Pandemona wrote:
I dont mind that from England, yes was poor performance again really, yes Southgate again playing people out of position causing our problems, however, you can't argue with 4 points from 2 games and 99% through to next round, you dont win anything in the group games.

Also was signs that Southgate is understanding playing Trent as a fooking 8 aint working and we might be able to play people in there positions going forward!!

And, outside of Denmark shooting from 40 yards all match, they didn't really create anything, so not like we were being opened up for fun etc. There goal was nuts and the guy will never do that again in his lifetime, even in his celebration he was shocked.

This is giga cope I’m sorry pande

Haha! ITS COMING HOME...trust
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18746 Posts
June 21 2024 17:48 GMT
#2429
Austria so strong!!
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27376 Posts
June 21 2024 20:33 GMT
#2430
G’argh that really shoulda counted for Netherlands IMO. Who are my work sweepstake team, as well as me having Xavi Simons in my fantasy team, so a little biased :p

As much as England have been underwhelming thus far, I gotta say France really haven’t done it for me either
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18746 Posts
June 21 2024 20:47 GMT
#2431
On June 22 2024 05:33 WombaT wrote:
G’argh that really shoulda counted for Netherlands IMO. Who are my work sweepstake team, as well as me having Xavi Simons in my fantasy team, so a little biased :p

As much as England have been underwhelming thus far, I gotta say France really haven’t done it for me either


France in this game is much much better than any performance of England
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27376 Posts
June 21 2024 20:50 GMT
#2432
On June 22 2024 05:47 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2024 05:33 WombaT wrote:
G’argh that really shoulda counted for Netherlands IMO. Who are my work sweepstake team, as well as me having Xavi Simons in my fantasy team, so a little biased :p

As much as England have been underwhelming thus far, I gotta say France really haven’t done it for me either


France in this game is much much better than any performance of England

It’s pretty moribund stuff, if France have an edge it’s they’re maybe playing 6/10 of what they’re capable of, and England are delivering 5s but they haven’t been particularly good
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aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4019 Posts
June 21 2024 21:29 GMT
#2433
Too bad, the game really needed a goal to get it going. Not a bad result for either team...France is just trying to get through the group stage with minimal effort, Dutchies are almost guaranteed 2nd round which they'll be happy about.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28894 Posts
June 21 2024 22:12 GMT
#2434
Both teams were pretty happy with this. For this group there's not necessarily any difference between first and second. (Depends a bit how Belgium's group ends up I guess, I still consider them the best team in their group but there's a pretty good shot they're not getting first place).
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haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2744 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-06-22 09:35:10
June 22 2024 09:31 GMT
#2435
I love Spanish media press and fans:

- Before the EUROs: This team sucks, what a lack of talent and decline compared to old times, who the hell is the manager. We will fall soon like in recent cups

- After the match against Italy: Fabian, Niko Williams, Cucurella, Yamal, etc are so good. Some of the best players of the tournament. We are one of the favourites alongside Germany and France.

Hilarious.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
June 22 2024 15:14 GMT
#2436
eli5 why Turkey is rotating as if they were either already through to the next round or lost their previous game 0-5...

Changing goalie, not starting Arda Güler, who was just celebrated as reincarnation of Messi after their first game... Anyone has some insight there?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18441 Posts
June 22 2024 15:27 GMT
#2437
On June 23 2024 00:14 mahrgell wrote:
eli5 why Turkey is rotating as if they were either already through to the next round or lost their previous game 0-5...

Changing goalie, not starting Arda Güler, who was just celebrated as reincarnation of Messi after their first game... Anyone has some insight there?

Arda Guler is purely to fuck with my fantasy team.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
June 22 2024 15:29 GMT
#2438
On June 23 2024 00:27 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2024 00:14 mahrgell wrote:
eli5 why Turkey is rotating as if they were either already through to the next round or lost their previous game 0-5...

Changing goalie, not starting Arda Güler, who was just celebrated as reincarnation of Messi after their first game... Anyone has some insight there?

Arda Guler is purely to fuck with my fantasy team.


Thats a reasoning I can support! Best coach ever!
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2666 Posts
June 22 2024 15:43 GMT
#2439
Turkey could still not go through if they lose highly enough right?
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27376 Posts
June 22 2024 15:51 GMT
#2440
On June 23 2024 00:43 gTank wrote:
Turkey could still not go through if they lose highly enough right?

Probably unlikely, but possible!

In the battle for 1 and 2 in the group, head to head is the differentiator, goal difference comes into it after points for the best third placed teams.

Given that Turkey beat Georgia, and have a plus 2 goal difference they’re unlikely to be caught be Georgia as if they’re tied on points Turkey win the head to head, and the goal difference helps them a lot if they do place third.

I’d fancy them to beat Czechia and make it immaterial anyway, but I think even with two draws they’re almost certainly through
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