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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6240 Posts
July 08 2021 05:55 GMT
#4681
On July 08 2021 06:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2021 06:42 aseq wrote:
On July 08 2021 06:36 plasmidghost wrote:
Well I think Italy takes this Euro

Don't underestimate the home advantage...but everyone here hated England's play this game. You got 1.2 bln in transfer value on the pitch against maybe 3 PL level players that can barely run and you sub off Grealish for safety, lol.

Who in Europe supported England at the end of this match:
[image loading]


Yeah we should have gone for the 3-3 draw like everyone else.

England went for defensive play against 10 Danes who were so tired they weren't going to score in a million years. I guess it worked but don't expect any sympathy from neutral fans for that kind of play.
Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
July 08 2021 06:43 GMT
#4682
On July 08 2021 07:11 Pandemona wrote:
The expect goals "stat" heavily in favour of England, regardless of a soft penalty to win it, you can't say they didn't deserve too!

[image loading]


It means Denmark have a better goalkeeper than England. Stopping shots is part of football too.

The extra time xg is meaningless since England's jump in xg came fom the penalty and follow-up. Which also highlights a flaw of xg; England would have had a lower xg if Kane scored the penalty directly.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18481 Posts
July 08 2021 06:48 GMT
#4683
On July 08 2021 15:43 Melliflue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2021 07:11 Pandemona wrote:
The expect goals "stat" heavily in favour of England, regardless of a soft penalty to win it, you can't say they didn't deserve too!

[image loading]


It means Denmark have a better goalkeeper than England. Stopping shots is part of football too.

The extra time xg is meaningless since England's jump in xg came fom the penalty and follow-up. Which also highlights a flaw of xg; England would have had a lower xg if Kane scored the penalty directly.


oh seriously, xg rises when you convert a penalty with the 2nd shot?! hahaha
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25863 Posts
July 08 2021 07:16 GMT
#4684
On July 08 2021 07:06 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2021 06:53 Pandemona wrote:
On July 08 2021 06:52 deacon.frost wrote:
On July 08 2021 06:48 Pandemona wrote:
FOOTBALLS COMING HOME!!!!!!!!

+ Show Spoiler +
Into the finals we go, very impressive fitness game from England, from the second half looked like only one winner to be fair, Denmark just had nothing in the tank left even after their 5 subs. Penalty was very soft, the body check up top on Sterling on the way down kept VAR from intervening as wasn't "clean and obvious mistake" because of that.

Kasper was man of the match which says a lot! Made like 5 world class saves to keep Denmark with any hope as they offered nothing going forward since the first half, so a bit of luck deservedly after these painful decades and into the final we go!

Time to finish the job against a hopefully tiring Italian side from their last two games compared to England who look very fresh.

You do realize football comes from China, right?

Comes from England as we formalized it first! Oldest FA for a reason sir, and that argument is also wrong as it came from Brazil first they say, but again we formalized it with rules and FA first.

Football was modernized in England but its origins come from China. Sad but true (well, sad if you're from the islands :D) It's one of my favorite sport paradox. The country where the football was born has in many betting agencies lower chance to win a world cup title than the chance of alien landing actually happening (the last time I checked China had 1:2 500 while alien landing was 1:2 000 )

I like the Three lions song, why not, but I like nitpicking on this as well when English fans are footballing coming homing

Show nested quote +
On July 08 2021 07:05 Jockmcplop wrote:
Someone from the crowd aiming a laser at Schmeichel's eyes during the penalty :/

ANother classy thing, why am I surprised. But considering the UK laws catching the idiot should be easy, or...?

What next, the Mayans invented cricket?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
July 08 2021 07:32 GMT
#4685
Welp, I only hope that the whole Europe will stand behind Italy on sunday.

English fans acting is ... meh at least.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4371 Posts
July 08 2021 07:42 GMT
#4686
So Acrofales. No pressure on your choice for fantasy captain for the final
Sucker for nostalgia
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2584 Posts
July 08 2021 07:43 GMT
#4687
Star Wars Clone Wars quote of S1E12:

"Fail with honor rather than succeed with fraud." Why does this remind me of that game yesterday?
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25863 Posts
July 08 2021 07:50 GMT
#4688
It was a very soft penalty, wasn’t particularly happy with it. In the same way the penalty was given against Croatia in the WC final felt wrong to me, even if perhaps technically correct according to the laws.

I think Italy are currently a better side than Spain, but I think they’re a better matchup for England going in the final. Can’t see it being anything other than a tight, nervy affair either way!

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6972 Posts
July 08 2021 08:25 GMT
#4689
My finals prediction:
Italy playing way better but fail to score. England gets another free penalty/ other stupid ref decision and win. English fans be like "we were better, we deserved it"

I wouldn't even be mad if England would truly display some good games.

I hope Brych is Ref for the finals. He hates diving and both side are pretty good divers
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18481 Posts
July 08 2021 08:52 GMT
#4690
The video’s emergence this week has caused a huge controversy at Barcelona, not simply for the accusations that Dembele’s comments were racist (and that Griezmann was complicit with his laughter) but also because Barcelona’s biggest sponsor is Rakuten, the Japanese auction and retail giant.


https://kotaku.com/konami-fires-soccer-star-after-racism-controversy-1847248826

Ah now I know why France lost. They missed their racist buddy Dembele.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6240 Posts
July 08 2021 09:15 GMT
#4691
On July 08 2021 16:50 WombaT wrote:
It was a very soft penalty, wasn’t particularly happy with it. In the same way the penalty was given against Croatia in the WC final felt wrong to me, even if perhaps technically correct according to the laws.

I think Italy are currently a better side than Spain, but I think they’re a better matchup for England going in the final. Can’t see it being anything other than a tight, nervy affair either way!


I don't think the penalty was even technically correct. De VAR should've intervened imo.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9707 Posts
July 08 2021 09:16 GMT
#4692
On July 08 2021 14:55 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2021 06:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 08 2021 06:42 aseq wrote:
On July 08 2021 06:36 plasmidghost wrote:
Well I think Italy takes this Euro

Don't underestimate the home advantage...but everyone here hated England's play this game. You got 1.2 bln in transfer value on the pitch against maybe 3 PL level players that can barely run and you sub off Grealish for safety, lol.

Who in Europe supported England at the end of this match:
[image loading]


Yeah we should have gone for the 3-3 draw like everyone else.

England went for defensive play against 10 Danes who were so tired they weren't going to score in a million years. I guess it worked but don't expect any sympathy from neutral fans for that kind of play.

As if England would get any sympathy from any fans across Europe anyway.
Especially when they are winning games.
RIP Meatloaf <3
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-08 09:29:24
July 08 2021 09:21 GMT
#4693
On July 08 2021 16:16 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2021 07:06 deacon.frost wrote:
On July 08 2021 06:53 Pandemona wrote:
On July 08 2021 06:52 deacon.frost wrote:
On July 08 2021 06:48 Pandemona wrote:
FOOTBALLS COMING HOME!!!!!!!!

+ Show Spoiler +
Into the finals we go, very impressive fitness game from England, from the second half looked like only one winner to be fair, Denmark just had nothing in the tank left even after their 5 subs. Penalty was very soft, the body check up top on Sterling on the way down kept VAR from intervening as wasn't "clean and obvious mistake" because of that.

Kasper was man of the match which says a lot! Made like 5 world class saves to keep Denmark with any hope as they offered nothing going forward since the first half, so a bit of luck deservedly after these painful decades and into the final we go!

Time to finish the job against a hopefully tiring Italian side from their last two games compared to England who look very fresh.

You do realize football comes from China, right?

Comes from England as we formalized it first! Oldest FA for a reason sir, and that argument is also wrong as it came from Brazil first they say, but again we formalized it with rules and FA first.

Football was modernized in England but its origins come from China. Sad but true (well, sad if you're from the islands :D) It's one of my favorite sport paradox. The country where the football was born has in many betting agencies lower chance to win a world cup title than the chance of alien landing actually happening (the last time I checked China had 1:2 500 while alien landing was 1:2 000 )

I like the Three lions song, why not, but I like nitpicking on this as well when English fans are footballing coming homing

On July 08 2021 07:05 Jockmcplop wrote:
Someone from the crowd aiming a laser at Schmeichel's eyes during the penalty :/

ANother classy thing, why am I surprised. But considering the UK laws catching the idiot should be easy, or...?

What next, the Mayans invented cricket?

Well, technically speaking the first football like game comes from Aztecs So they may have. But I have no idea as I don't care about weird sports like crickets. The first ball game we have records of which reminds football comes from China. Deal with it, Brits.

Yes, modern football comes from England. Note the part MODERN football. The game itself has much bigger history than just codification of rules and the first professional league.

Edit> It is a competitive game that involves kicking a ball through an opening into a net. The use of hands is not allowed. I wonder about what game am I writing. (Cuju FYI)

On July 08 2021 18:16 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2021 14:55 RvB wrote:
On July 08 2021 06:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 08 2021 06:42 aseq wrote:
On July 08 2021 06:36 plasmidghost wrote:
Well I think Italy takes this Euro

Don't underestimate the home advantage...but everyone here hated England's play this game. You got 1.2 bln in transfer value on the pitch against maybe 3 PL level players that can barely run and you sub off Grealish for safety, lol.

Who in Europe supported England at the end of this match:
[image loading]


Yeah we should have gone for the 3-3 draw like everyone else.

England went for defensive play against 10 Danes who were so tired they weren't going to score in a million years. I guess it worked but don't expect any sympathy from neutral fans for that kind of play.

As if England would get any sympathy from any fans across Europe anyway.
Especially when they are winning games.

As if their fans aren;t making it easier for others to hate them.
Laser blinding system to screw up opponent players.
Booing and whisteling into the anthem.
Getting unfair penalty which every fan of England sees as a fair play.
And so on.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6972 Posts
July 08 2021 09:24 GMT
#4694
On July 08 2021 18:16 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2021 14:55 RvB wrote:
On July 08 2021 06:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 08 2021 06:42 aseq wrote:
On July 08 2021 06:36 plasmidghost wrote:
Well I think Italy takes this Euro

Don't underestimate the home advantage...but everyone here hated England's play this game. You got 1.2 bln in transfer value on the pitch against maybe 3 PL level players that can barely run and you sub off Grealish for safety, lol.

Who in Europe supported England at the end of this match:
[image loading]


Yeah we should have gone for the 3-3 draw like everyone else.

England went for defensive play against 10 Danes who were so tired they weren't going to score in a million years. I guess it worked but don't expect any sympathy from neutral fans for that kind of play.

As if England would get any sympathy from any fans across Europe anyway.
Especially when they are winning games.


Why not? I think Denmark was a special sympathy case these Euros but between England and Italy, it could swing either way.
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2716 Posts
July 08 2021 09:28 GMT
#4695
In my experience Europeans support more Italy than England of France.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
July 08 2021 09:31 GMT
#4696
On July 08 2021 18:28 haitike wrote:
In my experience Europeans support more Italy than England of France.

I would support England but I can't with their fans doing what they do. It's like when Flash was playing SC2, his fans were so annoying I couldn't support him on any level. Same with JD, those were even worse. IMO. When choosing between Italy and England I like the English style more. But support them means being an English fan, ewww.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9707 Posts
July 08 2021 09:42 GMT
#4697
On July 08 2021 18:24 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2021 18:16 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 08 2021 14:55 RvB wrote:
On July 08 2021 06:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 08 2021 06:42 aseq wrote:
On July 08 2021 06:36 plasmidghost wrote:
Well I think Italy takes this Euro

Don't underestimate the home advantage...but everyone here hated England's play this game. You got 1.2 bln in transfer value on the pitch against maybe 3 PL level players that can barely run and you sub off Grealish for safety, lol.

Who in Europe supported England at the end of this match:
[image loading]


Yeah we should have gone for the 3-3 draw like everyone else.

England went for defensive play against 10 Danes who were so tired they weren't going to score in a million years. I guess it worked but don't expect any sympathy from neutral fans for that kind of play.

As if England would get any sympathy from any fans across Europe anyway.
Especially when they are winning games.


Why not? I think Denmark was a special sympathy case these Euros but between England and Italy, it could swing either way.

Eh maybe this is true, because my perspective is biased, but going off these football threads people do seem to have a certain dislike for the English - whether this is just football related or not I don't know.
It was present long before the Denmark game.
RIP Meatloaf <3
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25863 Posts
July 08 2021 09:47 GMT
#4698
On July 08 2021 18:21 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2021 16:16 WombaT wrote:
On July 08 2021 07:06 deacon.frost wrote:
On July 08 2021 06:53 Pandemona wrote:
On July 08 2021 06:52 deacon.frost wrote:
On July 08 2021 06:48 Pandemona wrote:
FOOTBALLS COMING HOME!!!!!!!!

+ Show Spoiler +
Into the finals we go, very impressive fitness game from England, from the second half looked like only one winner to be fair, Denmark just had nothing in the tank left even after their 5 subs. Penalty was very soft, the body check up top on Sterling on the way down kept VAR from intervening as wasn't "clean and obvious mistake" because of that.

Kasper was man of the match which says a lot! Made like 5 world class saves to keep Denmark with any hope as they offered nothing going forward since the first half, so a bit of luck deservedly after these painful decades and into the final we go!

Time to finish the job against a hopefully tiring Italian side from their last two games compared to England who look very fresh.

You do realize football comes from China, right?

Comes from England as we formalized it first! Oldest FA for a reason sir, and that argument is also wrong as it came from Brazil first they say, but again we formalized it with rules and FA first.

Football was modernized in England but its origins come from China. Sad but true (well, sad if you're from the islands :D) It's one of my favorite sport paradox. The country where the football was born has in many betting agencies lower chance to win a world cup title than the chance of alien landing actually happening (the last time I checked China had 1:2 500 while alien landing was 1:2 000 )

I like the Three lions song, why not, but I like nitpicking on this as well when English fans are footballing coming homing

On July 08 2021 07:05 Jockmcplop wrote:
Someone from the crowd aiming a laser at Schmeichel's eyes during the penalty :/

ANother classy thing, why am I surprised. But considering the UK laws catching the idiot should be easy, or...?

What next, the Mayans invented cricket?

Well, technically speaking the first football like game comes from Aztecs So they may have. But I have no idea as I don't care about weird sports like crickets. The first ball game we have records of which reminds football comes from China. Deal with it, Brits.

Yes, modern football comes from England. Note the part MODERN football. The game itself has much bigger history than just codification of rules and the first professional league.

Edit> It is a competitive game that involves kicking a ball through an opening into a net. The use of hands is not allowed. I wonder about what game am I writing. (Cuju FYI)

Show nested quote +
On July 08 2021 18:16 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 08 2021 14:55 RvB wrote:
On July 08 2021 06:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 08 2021 06:42 aseq wrote:
On July 08 2021 06:36 plasmidghost wrote:
Well I think Italy takes this Euro

Don't underestimate the home advantage...but everyone here hated England's play this game. You got 1.2 bln in transfer value on the pitch against maybe 3 PL level players that can barely run and you sub off Grealish for safety, lol.

Who in Europe supported England at the end of this match:
[image loading]


Yeah we should have gone for the 3-3 draw like everyone else.

England went for defensive play against 10 Danes who were so tired they weren't going to score in a million years. I guess it worked but don't expect any sympathy from neutral fans for that kind of play.

As if England would get any sympathy from any fans across Europe anyway.
Especially when they are winning games.

As if their fans aren;t making it easier for others to hate them.
Laser blinding system to screw up opponent players.
Booing and whisteling into the anthem.
Getting unfair penalty which every fan of England sees as a fair play.
And so on.

I didn’t think it was a penalty, plenty I’ve spoken to don’t either.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6972 Posts
July 08 2021 09:54 GMT
#4699
On July 08 2021 18:42 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2021 18:24 Harris1st wrote:
On July 08 2021 18:16 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 08 2021 14:55 RvB wrote:
On July 08 2021 06:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 08 2021 06:42 aseq wrote:
On July 08 2021 06:36 plasmidghost wrote:
Well I think Italy takes this Euro

Don't underestimate the home advantage...but everyone here hated England's play this game. You got 1.2 bln in transfer value on the pitch against maybe 3 PL level players that can barely run and you sub off Grealish for safety, lol.

Who in Europe supported England at the end of this match:
[image loading]


Yeah we should have gone for the 3-3 draw like everyone else.

England went for defensive play against 10 Danes who were so tired they weren't going to score in a million years. I guess it worked but don't expect any sympathy from neutral fans for that kind of play.

As if England would get any sympathy from any fans across Europe anyway.
Especially when they are winning games.


Why not? I think Denmark was a special sympathy case these Euros but between England and Italy, it could swing either way.

Eh maybe this is true, because my perspective is biased, but going off these football threads people do seem to have a certain dislike for the English - whether this is just football related or not I don't know.
It was present long before the Denmark game.


First and foremost I am a footi fan, meaning when England puts on a marvelous display in the finals I'm all for it. If they park the bus and get a lucky penalty, hell no.
Italy has won enough in the last years so I am even leaning a bit towards the English side
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9707 Posts
July 08 2021 09:57 GMT
#4700
On July 08 2021 18:54 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2021 18:42 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 08 2021 18:24 Harris1st wrote:
On July 08 2021 18:16 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 08 2021 14:55 RvB wrote:
On July 08 2021 06:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 08 2021 06:42 aseq wrote:
On July 08 2021 06:36 plasmidghost wrote:
Well I think Italy takes this Euro

Don't underestimate the home advantage...but everyone here hated England's play this game. You got 1.2 bln in transfer value on the pitch against maybe 3 PL level players that can barely run and you sub off Grealish for safety, lol.

Who in Europe supported England at the end of this match:
[image loading]


Yeah we should have gone for the 3-3 draw like everyone else.

England went for defensive play against 10 Danes who were so tired they weren't going to score in a million years. I guess it worked but don't expect any sympathy from neutral fans for that kind of play.

As if England would get any sympathy from any fans across Europe anyway.
Especially when they are winning games.


Why not? I think Denmark was a special sympathy case these Euros but between England and Italy, it could swing either way.

Eh maybe this is true, because my perspective is biased, but going off these football threads people do seem to have a certain dislike for the English - whether this is just football related or not I don't know.
It was present long before the Denmark game.


First and foremost I am a footi fan, meaning when England puts on a marvelous display in the finals I'm all for it. If they park the bus and get a lucky penalty, hell no.
Italy has won enough in the last years so I am even leaning a bit towards the English side

I don't think England will park the bus. Having said that they aren't a particularly exciting team, whereas Italy play fast football and have more quality in certain areas, so I do expect England to keep the game as slow as possible if they are the ones who manage to assert themselves.
If the game is very fast and exciting we will probably lose, if its slow with alot of passing around then it could go either way.
RIP Meatloaf <3
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