EPT2020 - 2021 Football Thread - Page 171
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12134 Posts
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gTank
Austria2669 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12134 Posts
On June 20 2021 02:25 gTank wrote: Germany pwning Portugal like they are a 4th league amateur team. Gosens has way to much space to do whatever he can think of. *cough* Brazil *cough* Ooooo, and the plot thickens! Portugal still in da game! | ||
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gTank
Austria2669 Posts
On June 20 2021 02:26 deacon.frost wrote: *cough* Brazil *cough* Ooooo, and the plot thickens! Portugal still in da game! Yeah germany is good against portugese speaking teams xD Not so much against spanish speaking (Mexico, Spain..) | ||
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Bacillus
Finland2122 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12134 Posts
On June 20 2021 02:28 Bacillus wrote: Is there a scenario where goal difference comes into play? I can't see one right away at least. The 3rd spot advancement? | ||
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Bacillus
Finland2122 Posts
Ah yeah, good point. That could be a very likely thing if Portugal finishes with 4 points or so. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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InFiNitY[pG]
Germany3474 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12134 Posts
On June 20 2021 02:35 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: We're doing well, scoring goals left right and center, let's sub our whole offense for three defenders and relinquish complete control of the game to the opposition. Because that usually works... C'mon, it's not like Portugal has any good offensive players! | ||
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gTank
Austria2669 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18769 Posts
On June 20 2021 02:33 Pandemona wrote: Wait Sule is fit? Why on earth is he not starting lol? Secondly, if he takes Hummels off, why on earth did he not bring on Sule for him instead of Can who isn't a CB lol xD Because ginter and hummels are playing a great tournament? | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12134 Posts
On June 20 2021 02:41 gTank wrote: Portugal is playing passive like they are 2 goals ahead.... Weeeeeeeeeeeell, they scored 4 goals and almost fifth xD | ||
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gTank
Austria2669 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On June 20 2021 02:42 sharkie wrote: Because ginter and hummels are playing a great tournament? Great tournament its 2 games old and they have conceded 3 goals in these two games? Hummels was embarassed by Mbappe and was/is the reason Germany have to play a back 3 in the first place cuz he has no pace. Ginter might be doing fine but Rudiger has not looked good at all. Sule starts for Bayern the best club in Germany...why he not getting a look in? Dortmund not been good defensively all season either lol | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28916 Posts
I decided to look at all the points of the third place finishers in all WCs and ECs since they started using 3 points for a win: European championships: 96: 4 groups, 4 4 4 4 for third place 2000: 4 groups, 4 3 3 3 for third place 04: 4 groups, 5 4 2 2 for third place 08: 4 groups, 3 3 2 1 for third place 12: 4 groups, 4 4 3 3 for third place 16: 6 groups, 4 4 3 3 3 3. two teams with neutral goal difference advanced. (portugal famously winning the championship despite not winning any group games) From these 6 championships there are 26 third place teams. They got 5 points once, 4 points 10 times, 3 points 11 times, 2 points thrice 1 point once. Adding more meat to it, I've looked at world cups too, since 94, when they started with 3 points for a win. 94: 6 groups, 6 6 4 4 3 2 for third place teams. 98: 8 groups, 4 2 2 4 3 3 3 3 for third place teams 02: 8 groups, 2 4 4 3 4 4 3 3 for third place teams 06: 8 groups, 4 3 3 3 3 2 2 1 for third place teams 10: 8 groups, 4 4 4 4 4 3 3 3 for third place teams 14: 8 groups, 4 4 3 3 3 3 3 2 for third place teams 18: 8 groups, 4 4 3 3 3 3 3 3 for third place teams Overall, 54 third place teams. 2 with 6 points, 18 with 4 points, 26 with 3 points, 7 with 2 points, 1 with Total from EC+WC combined: 6 points 2 times 5 points 1 time 4 points 28 times 3 points 37 times 2 points 10 times 1 point 2 times. 31 times 4+, 49 times 3- While not impossible, it's really unlikely that we see 5 third place teams with 4+ points, so 4 is almost certainly enough. Most likely, we see one or two teams advance with 3 points, too, and in that case, the goal difference ends up being crucial. Considering how 3 points is either three draws or two losses and one win, the goal difference will normally be neutral at best. I think Portugal is still likely to advance if they lose by 1 goal to France – 3 points and 5-5 GD is prolly enough. | ||
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justanothertownie
16343 Posts
On June 20 2021 03:27 Pandemona wrote: Great tournament its 2 games old and they have conceded 3 goals in these two games? Hummels was embarassed by Mbappe and was/is the reason Germany have to play a back 3 in the first place cuz he has no pace. Ginter might be doing fine but Rudiger has not looked good at all. Sule starts for Bayern the best club in Germany...why he not getting a look in? Dortmund not been good defensively all season either lol Germany was playing with a back 3 before Hummels returned. I also don't see that many results of the supposed embarrassing. No reasonable person expects hummels to be as fast as mbappe. I don't know if any defender in this tournament is. | ||
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warding
Portugal2397 Posts
On June 20 2021 02:53 gTank wrote: Portugal super disappointing, they might get 4th place theoretically! If Germany loses to Hungary? Right. Also, an I the first to point out how dumb it is to have many teams play most games at home while others play many games away at the opponents home? Having one or two teams with home advantage is fair enough but this feels a little distorted. | ||
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justanothertownie
16343 Posts
On June 20 2021 04:31 warding wrote: If Germany loses to Hungary? Right. Also, an I the first to point out how dumb it is to have many teams play most games at home while others play many games away at the opponents home? Having one or two teams with home advantage is fair enough but this feels a little distorted. Yeah, I also fail to understand this. Seems entirely unfair tbh. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
The knockout games were Wembley for quite a few with Wembley getting the final and 1 semi final but the other semi final been moved there now as well. The teams in question aka Germany, Denmark, Russia, Spain, Italy and England were automatically assigned the home games and those stadiums attached to the groups in question. The knockout games do change that up though i believe. If Italy win group a and England win group b for example we go to Rome and Italy go to Wembley. | ||
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