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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-01 17:07:56
July 01 2023 16:24 GMT
#1921
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zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-03 02:05:31
July 03 2023 01:54 GMT
#1922
dame cant control where he goes, so the favourite would be whoever can offer portland the most picks/best players, miami certainly will be the most desperate. not sure what stage portland is going to be in if dame leaves. you would think they would be tanking but then they just signed grant to a gazillion dollar contract and just being able to get into the play-ins (no matter who they get back in the deal) really isnt the way to go.

whoever gets dame is going to be like the suns of last year, where they had to gut their roster depth to get the trade done. and it'll just essentially be a waste of a year (lose in round 1 or round 2), and then hopefully year 2 they'll be able to rebuild some depth back.

this trade needed to happen way sooner, not even sure who is even left on the FA market.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 03 2023 03:47 GMT
#1923
I think whatever team that gets Dame (unless it is the Heat for their offer that is considered a lowball) will still be pretty mediocre. He plays the least important position, and his skillset isn't that rare at all in 2023. Its just super poor man's Steph. And Steph is great, but he needs at least 2 elite defenders on the court with him almost all the time.
Freeeeeeedom
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16925 Posts
July 21 2023 18:13 GMT
#1924
Kawhi's shot wasn't luck.

Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16925 Posts
September 03 2023 16:42 GMT
#1925
I'll see you in Paris...
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nba/article/canada-qualifies-for-paris-olympics-following-comeback-win-over-spain/
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16095 Posts
September 08 2023 15:03 GMT
#1926
JJJ is such a fraud DPOY.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
September 08 2023 23:00 GMT
#1927
Yup, agreed. And I feel like most people are missing the point when talking about why this team came up short.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16095 Posts
September 09 2023 02:06 GMT
#1928
On September 09 2023 08:00 andrewlt wrote:
Yup, agreed. And I feel like most people are missing the point when talking about why this team came up short.


Why do you think that?

From the look of it to me, Team USA played some awful defense, but also was really undersized against Germany. I mean Theis went absolutely off on us, and he's not a bad player but not the kind of guy I think would go for 27 and 7.

Rebounding was also an issue for pretty much the entire tournament.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
September 09 2023 05:31 GMT
#1929
On September 09 2023 11:06 Vindicare605 wrote:
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On September 09 2023 08:00 andrewlt wrote:
Yup, agreed. And I feel like most people are missing the point when talking about why this team came up short.


Why do you think that?

From the look of it to me, Team USA played some awful defense, but also was really undersized against Germany. I mean Theis went absolutely off on us, and he's not a bad player but not the kind of guy I think would go for 27 and 7.

Rebounding was also an issue for pretty much the entire tournament.


Because both JJJ and Banchero are bigger than Theis. They are also bigger than Draymond and Adebayo, who won gold at the last Olympics. Last FIBA cup, team USA brought Lopez, Plumlee and one other center and they were all ineffective. The current team also had Kessler, but he was pretty much the 12th man.

JJJ didn't play well this game but he was plagued by foul trouble for most of the tournament. During the loss to Lithuania, the team was something like +15 when he played and -20 when he sat but he fouled out in 15 minutes. He's either effective and in foul trouble or passive and not in foul trouble.

The US bigs are just bad at rebounding. But the team was loaded with athletic wings and they should be chasing rebounds. The Warriors had some losses where they just get killed on the boards but they still ended up in the top half of the league in rebounding for most of their championship runs. The difference is that in some games, the wings help rebound. In other games, they try to leak out for fast breaks and don't help at all.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 09 2023 06:12 GMT
#1930
Isn't JJJ a foul machine in the NBA as well? I remember him being one of the only defenders I thought got a favorable whistle last year (along with trash dudes like CP3). Guy is talented but not refined.
Freeeeeeedom
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16925 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-09 13:06:20
September 09 2023 13:03 GMT
#1931
a bunch of clips jammed together showing Anthony Edwards playing bad defense. At times his on ball defense is amazing though. I'd need to watch him play more to know if he is a bad defender or if he just stayed up until 8am partying the night before this game.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
September 09 2023 19:25 GMT
#1932
I'm originally from the Philippines. It's an English speaking, basketball crazy nation with a warm culture that's known for its hospitality. Wouldn't surprise me if they were enjoying the company of some Filipinas the night before haha

On September 09 2023 15:12 cLutZ wrote:
Isn't JJJ a foul machine in the NBA as well? I remember him being one of the only defenders I thought got a favorable whistle last year (along with trash dudes like CP3). Guy is talented but not refined.


Yup, JJJ is definitely a foul machine in the NBA as well.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
September 09 2023 20:46 GMT
#1933
Why the fuck do these guys not box out? I literally asked myself that question several times during the game against Germany. It's the same in the NBA. I just don't understand why. My coach would destroy us if we played like that when I was growing up.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 09 2023 21:21 GMT
#1934
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16925 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-10 12:05:57
September 10 2023 11:35 GMT
#1935
Canada wins in OT!
www.youtube.com

oops guys.. sry wrong clip. here it is.
www.youtube.com

players are complaining about the NBA schedule being too long and the games too tiring... let's make it sudden death OT. That will save the players knees, ankles and hips from a lot of banging and pounding.

On September 10 2023 04:25 andrewlt wrote:
I'm originally from the Philippines. It's an English speaking, basketball crazy nation with a warm culture that's known for its hospitality. Wouldn't surprise me if they were enjoying the company of some Filipinas the night before haha

prolly how the 95/96 Bulls went 72-10 while losing to the worst team in the NBA in Toronto. Also, hundreds of thousands of filipinos live in the Toronto area.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16095 Posts
September 10 2023 13:29 GMT
#1936
Team USA needs to put together another redeem team.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
September 10 2023 15:26 GMT
#1937
Well, Ingram, Banchero and JJJ ended up sick. Ingram was also sick the game before.

Now that I think about it, I think only Josh Hart was known as a good rebounder in the NBA. Put Westbrook on this team and he'll be their best rebounder. American players prize the Olympics way more and FIBA moving this and making it back to back is just going to hurt.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
September 17 2023 17:40 GMT
#1938
On September 10 2023 06:21 JimmiC wrote:
My guess is so big and athletic they never had too, rare to go up against athletically equal or even close. And the AAU American system is notoriously bad for fundamental and all about swag and cool.


I've been curious about the effect of AAu on player development, but I don't know to omuch about it.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 18 2023 12:03 GMT
#1939
On September 18 2023 02:40 Jerubaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2023 06:21 JimmiC wrote:
My guess is so big and athletic they never had too, rare to go up against athletically equal or even close. And the AAU American system is notoriously bad for fundamental and all about swag and cool.


I've been curious about the effect of AAu on player development, but I don't know to omuch about it.

Anyone who knows much at all about it thinks it is horrible. To many games per weekend means injuries. Players moving around and no real structure means a lack of development regarding passing and spacing and defense.
Freeeeeeedom
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 27 2023 18:34 GMT
#1940
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