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Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1974 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-15 07:51:51
February 15 2020 07:40 GMT
#2861
Depending a bit on how the protest unfolds, there could be a sudden race to PL top 5 instead of top 4. Sheffield Utd has a legit shot at qualifying UCL for next season.

EDIT: Or is the ban effective only the season after this one? I think I saw the UCL season 21-22 mentioned somewhere, which would mean they still have a year to go before the ban hits.
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-15 09:50:22
February 15 2020 09:49 GMT
#2862
On February 15 2020 08:29 Sr18 wrote:
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On February 15 2020 06:40 smr wrote:
Going to end with 2 years transfer ban and 250k fine. They do not have the balls to ban them.


They just did though.

Yes I know. But I'm pretty sure UEFA wants to appear strong, harsh whatever but they already know that City is going to protest against it. And my guess is that UEFA already knows that they won't let the decision stand and give them a lesser punishment. Everybody now knows that the threat of getting banned exists. It's kind of a preventive measure.

Might be totally wrong and I'd be happy if that ruling stood after the protest but can we really see a world in which cl 20/21 is played without city, 21/22 is played without city and .... inter, 22/23 without inter and .... real and so on? Would hurt the competition and in result UEFAs income.

On February 15 2020 16:40 Bacillus wrote:
EDIT: Or is the ban effective only the season after this one? I think I saw the UCL season 21-22 mentioned somewhere, which would mean they still have a year to go before the ban hits.

It's 2 seasons.
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4371 Posts
February 15 2020 13:00 GMT
#2863
On February 15 2020 09:45 Faruko wrote:


OK

If this is true, I hope the club folds. At BEST it's in grotesquely poor taste
Sucker for nostalgia
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 15 2020 14:15 GMT
#2864
That news was leaked a long time ago and iirc PSG are in exactly the same boat with their state sponsorship owners too but atm City because somehow they posted awful accounts for a few years in a row have been investigated more so than PSG who are in the exact same boat.

Oh well, this is going to cause chaos for Man City with players going there and not being able to play in Europe for 1 or 2 seasons and then also the same with the coach will he want 1 or 2 seasons without European football or is the premier league enough for him.
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18088 Posts
February 15 2020 14:32 GMT
#2865
You know how I said they had the best papers to pick up Messi if he decided to leave Barça? Scratch that.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25875 Posts
February 15 2020 14:57 GMT
#2866
On February 15 2020 11:50 WillyWanker wrote:
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On February 15 2020 04:53 Wombat_NI wrote:
The horse has long since bolted on Financial Fair Play I feel. Capping spending related to current revenues, well all that really does is mean the clubs who were huge at the right time remain huge and you don’t even have the old option of having a stupid rich benefactor to try and close that gap now.

No fan of City or (really any of the Gulf money in football) don’t get me wrong there lads.


I agree with that. Clubs like Barcelona or Juve have ungodly salaries that are close to or beyond the supposed cap, and sign tons and tons of young players before they're expensive to avoid being in trouble later. They recruit more than they need and their cachet means those youngsters will prefer to go there rather to tier 2 or 3 clubs that might actually need them to progress and maybe reach tier 1 at some point (which would be the right way to grow as a club, rather than buying in like PSG or City).

There's no fair play. What about the pressure those historically big clubs are putting on UEFA to have a private league? Isn't that worse? FFP was a nice idea but the application has been a joke.

I have zero sympathy with City but yes, all these powerhouse traditional ‘historic’ clubs are pushing for a Super League.

As much as fans like to throw the ‘plastic club’ accusation at the nouveau riche clubs, their own clubs are happy to sacrifice fair competition for more of the pie, and eventually having their own pie.

Was an interesting discussion on a podcast recently around this and associated things.

Really the time was the 90s and early 2000s to rein this trend in, basically due to the expansion of television internationally.

Clubs that got that international fan base in that period got larger and larger revenue streams, but unlike other forms of entertainment products people don’t jump ship off their football team, in general anyway.

With the exception of Ajax who are somewhat handicapped by playing in the Eredivisie, the big teams in that era of Champions League are the super clubs now, by and large.

A team like Spurs would need years of performing like they did under Pochettino to be anywhere near Man United in terms of that kind of revenue stream.

The money and how it’s distributed is a massive, intractable problem and how one mitigates it is almost impossible without doing something radical.

A mid tier Premier League team can’t really compete long-term with the big boys there for example. But their budget dwarfs Celtic or Rangers up north, indeed some Championship teams do. But Celtic’s Champions League money gives them an unassailable financial advantage in Scotland.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
February 15 2020 16:52 GMT
#2867
On February 15 2020 23:15 Pandemona wrote:
That news was leaked a long time ago and iirc PSG are in exactly the same boat with their state sponsorship owners too but atm City because somehow they posted awful accounts for a few years in a row have been investigated more so than PSG who are in the exact same boat.

Oh well, this is going to cause chaos for Man City with players going there and not being able to play in Europe for 1 or 2 seasons and then also the same with the coach will he want 1 or 2 seasons without European football or is the premier league enough for him.

if anything i can see a bit of an exodus from City... i doubt players like KDB, Aguero, Sane & Sterling being too happy about not playing ucl for 2 years.
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18483 Posts
February 15 2020 19:23 GMT
#2868
5 more to go
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 15 2020 19:38 GMT
#2869
Farke what a manager....opening game of season goes to Liverpool with some ultra attacking gung ho football like a complete sausage, for him to say after and before the game "i am not going to just defend, i won't park the bus"..... for 6 months later at home, he sits and parks the bus haha, what morals he has!

They did well today though, should have scored but obviously didn't and lost the game but were never out of it due to their solid defensive display.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18483 Posts
February 16 2020 17:17 GMT
#2870
holy fuck arteta

Torreira on the bench, martinelli on the bench and Özil keeps starting. This shitshow at Arsenal keeps going on
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 16 2020 17:34 GMT
#2871
Ozil been the best Arsenal player for me the first half though, however what on earth is his fascination with Augamon on the wing? He benches Lacazzete on top of that for Eddie who didn't even play at Leeds lol, madness.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
February 16 2020 18:46 GMT
#2872
God damn am I glad to see us do this well, even if it is Newcastle
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18483 Posts
February 17 2020 00:33 GMT
#2873
Wow talks of city getting retroactive punishments in the league haha - loving it, lets hope the sheikh leaves now and city back to where they belong
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6976 Posts
February 17 2020 08:50 GMT
#2874
On February 17 2020 09:33 sharkie wrote:
Wow talks of city getting retroactive punishments in the league haha - loving it, lets hope the sheikh leaves now and city back to where they belong


Fingers crossed! There can only be one Manchester + Show Spoiler +
and they need to suck xD
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
whistleboss
Profile Joined March 2019
151 Posts
February 17 2020 15:42 GMT
#2875
On February 17 2020 09:33 sharkie wrote:
Wow talks of city getting retroactive punishments in the league haha - loving it, lets hope the sheikh leaves now and city back to where they belong

from 2012-2016 isnt it?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 17 2020 16:41 GMT
#2876
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18483 Posts
February 17 2020 17:05 GMT
#2877
On February 18 2020 00:42 whistleboss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2020 09:33 sharkie wrote:
Wow talks of city getting retroactive punishments in the league haha - loving it, lets hope the sheikh leaves now and city back to where they belong

from 2012-2016 isnt it?


Yep which would mean Gerrard would get premier league title haha
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 17 2020 18:36 GMT
#2878
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 17 2020 18:58 GMT
#2879
Haha madness!!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18483 Posts
February 17 2020 18:59 GMT
#2880
Anyone wants to bet if Pep is going to stay around if City get really banned for 2 years? I am not sure yet of the details but I just want to see if anyone in here actually believes what he says
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