Blame Dudek, I loved when it happened, but goalies having to obey no rules and being able to do whatever they want to distract the taker and leave the line by miles upped the pressure.

Greg_J

China4409 Posts

July 27 2019 13:57 GMT

#202

So Seamen is more infamous than I realised. Thanks for making me relive that by the way.

Deleted User 26513

2376 Posts

July 27 2019 14:02 GMT

#203

Finally something smart from Madrid. They will keep James.
Also Bale will finally go where he belongs - outside of big football.

Greg_J

China4409 Posts

July 27 2019 14:07 GMT

#204

Madrid have treated Bale like garbage. I hope they suffer another humilitaing season and wish him good luck wherever he goes. Please don't come out here to China though. As much as I would love a chance to see him play (Not likely now I left Beijing and QIngdao got relegated a while back). But he deserves to be playing top quality football at a club more classy than Real.

sharkie

Austria18761 Posts

July 27 2019 14:07 GMT

#205

On July 27 2019 22:50 sneirac wrote:
Blame Dudek, I loved when it happened, but goalies having to obey no rules and being able to do whatever they want to distract the taker and leave the line by miles upped the pressure.

Really? The way they shot in 1996 was "I dont care what the gk does, I just convert my 100% penalty"

Nowadays penalties are like "damn I hope I can misdirect the gk and score on the other side"

sneirac

Germany3464 Posts

July 27 2019 14:12 GMT

#206

On July 27 2019 23:07 sharkie wrote:

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Really? The way they shot in 1996 was "I dont care what the gk does, I just convert my 100% penalty"

Nowadays penalties are like "damn I hope I can misdirect the gk and score on the other side"

Yes, go look at that video again. Köpke doesnt move around on the line or come out to meet the player to posture and only leaves the line shortly before the shot is taken.
Seaman moves even later, basically only when the ball is struck or very close to it.

1. more psychological pressure
2. goalies moving much earlier and coming farther forward
3. both taller and more athletic goalies (also applies to players but goalies benefit more)

Bacillus

Finland2112 Posts

July 27 2019 14:19 GMT

#207

On July 27 2019 23:07 sharkie wrote:

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Really? The way they shot in 1996 was "I dont care what the gk does, I just convert my 100% penalty"

Nowadays penalties are like "damn I hope I can misdirect the gk and score on the other side"

I wonder how much scouting they did on penalties back at 1996. It's probably a very different thing for the player if they can just do whatever feels natural whereas nowadays you can probably expect the goalie to know your shoe size and preferred breakfast, not to speak of the penalty shot preferrences and patterns.

Deleted User 26513

2376 Posts

July 27 2019 14:23 GMT

#208

On July 27 2019 23:07 Greg_J wrote:
Madrid have treated Bale like garbage. I hope they suffer another humilitaing season and wish him good luck wherever he goes. Please don't come out here to China though. As much as I would love a chance to see him play (Not likely now I left Beijing and QIngdao got relegated a while back). But he deserves to be playing top quality football at a club more classy than Real.

Well, when you come out and say that you would rather play golf and not leave... You get what you deserve. No self respecting player will just sit in a team that doesn't want him just for the money. I think that it's clear that he knows that he is not worth 17M euro a year and is just trying to hang in.
No other european team was willing to pay him this salary... Maybe he should be grateful that Madrid payed him that much and should just leave when they are asking him politely.
In the end, I agree, he was treated like garbage. And deservedly so.

haitike

Spain2744 Posts

July 27 2019 14:33 GMT

#209

On July 27 2019 23:02 Pr0wler wrote:
Finally something smart from Madrid. They will keep James.
Also Bale will finally go where he belongs - outside of big football.

Selling him to Atleti was a bad idea. They needed Asensio to have a serious injure for Zidane to realise.

Greg_J

China4409 Posts

July 27 2019 15:08 GMT

#210

It is a difficult situation. He has given so much for Real and been treated like shit despite it. Most people would find it hard to remain loyal in that kind of situation. But they do at least pay him well. Zidane reamians an enigma to me. His league results sugest my nan could do a better job given the resources of the club and the quality of the league below the top teams. But winning 3 consecutive Champions Leagues trophies is hard to argue with. Bale would be welcome at most top clubs in Europe but not on the current pay scale. So what does he do? He will have to take a pay cut. You are right it would be silly from him in every way except financially to just sit on his arse and not play for Madrid. But he also does have that history of injury. A younger player should try and back themselves and prove their worth at a lesser club and end up benfiting their career in the long run with more game time. But Bale is on stupid money, not at the start of his career and has no need to prove he is world class, everyone knows it. So maybe sitting it out makes a little sense. Of things go badly for Zidane early on this season and Bale is sitting there on the bench ready to bail them out of that game. Maybe Zidane will have to bury his pride admit Bale is one of his best players and let him win a few games and help get the ship sailing in the right direction again.

Edit: a couple of cringeworthy spelling mistakes. I'm sure there's more I missed.

Deleted User 173346

16169 Posts

July 27 2019 16:14 GMT

#211

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zev318

Canada4306 Posts

July 27 2019 20:59 GMT

#212

On July 28 2019 01:14 plasmidghost wrote:

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Damn lol, I thought he was for sure going to Napoli. I wonder how we're getting all this money

I'm still in awe as to how we managed to get Pepe. My patience has paid off

in awe that arsenal keeps signing attacking players despite giving up the 3rd most goals in the top 10?

sharkie

Austria18761 Posts

July 27 2019 21:06 GMT

#213

You guys do realise that Arsenal should have made top4 easily? Their defense sucks balls yes but their offense usually made up for it except the last 5 games or so. All they needed was to win easy games at home (which they failed because they didnt score goals from midfield as Ramsey was out)