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sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
July 27 2019 13:50 GMT
#201
Blame Dudek, I loved when it happened, but goalies having to obey no rules and being able to do whatever they want to distract the taker and leave the line by miles upped the pressure.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
July 27 2019 13:57 GMT
#202
So Seamen is more infamous than I realised. Thanks for making me relive that by the way.
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
July 27 2019 14:02 GMT
#203
Finally something smart from Madrid. They will keep James.
Also Bale will finally go where he belongs - outside of big football.
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
July 27 2019 14:07 GMT
#204
Madrid have treated Bale like garbage. I hope they suffer another humilitaing season and wish him good luck wherever he goes. Please don't come out here to China though. As much as I would love a chance to see him play (Not likely now I left Beijing and QIngdao got relegated a while back). But he deserves to be playing top quality football at a club more classy than Real.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18478 Posts
July 27 2019 14:07 GMT
#205
On July 27 2019 22:50 sneirac wrote:
Blame Dudek, I loved when it happened, but goalies having to obey no rules and being able to do whatever they want to distract the taker and leave the line by miles upped the pressure.


Really? The way they shot in 1996 was "I dont care what the gk does, I just convert my 100% penalty"

Nowadays penalties are like "damn I hope I can misdirect the gk and score on the other side"
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
July 27 2019 14:12 GMT
#206
On July 27 2019 23:07 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2019 22:50 sneirac wrote:
Blame Dudek, I loved when it happened, but goalies having to obey no rules and being able to do whatever they want to distract the taker and leave the line by miles upped the pressure.


Really? The way they shot in 1996 was "I dont care what the gk does, I just convert my 100% penalty"

Nowadays penalties are like "damn I hope I can misdirect the gk and score on the other side"

Yes, go look at that video again. Köpke doesnt move around on the line or come out to meet the player to posture and only leaves the line shortly before the shot is taken.
Seaman moves even later, basically only when the ball is struck or very close to it.

1. more psychological pressure
2. goalies moving much earlier and coming farther forward
3. both taller and more athletic goalies (also applies to players but goalies benefit more)
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1973 Posts
July 27 2019 14:19 GMT
#207
On July 27 2019 23:07 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2019 22:50 sneirac wrote:
Blame Dudek, I loved when it happened, but goalies having to obey no rules and being able to do whatever they want to distract the taker and leave the line by miles upped the pressure.


Really? The way they shot in 1996 was "I dont care what the gk does, I just convert my 100% penalty"

Nowadays penalties are like "damn I hope I can misdirect the gk and score on the other side"

I wonder how much scouting they did on penalties back at 1996. It's probably a very different thing for the player if they can just do whatever feels natural whereas nowadays you can probably expect the goalie to know your shoe size and preferred breakfast, not to speak of the penalty shot preferrences and patterns.
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-27 14:26:33
July 27 2019 14:23 GMT
#208
On July 27 2019 23:07 Greg_J wrote:
Madrid have treated Bale like garbage. I hope they suffer another humilitaing season and wish him good luck wherever he goes. Please don't come out here to China though. As much as I would love a chance to see him play (Not likely now I left Beijing and QIngdao got relegated a while back). But he deserves to be playing top quality football at a club more classy than Real.

Well, when you come out and say that you would rather play golf and not leave... You get what you deserve. No self respecting player will just sit in a team that doesn't want him just for the money. I think that it's clear that he knows that he is not worth 17M euro a year and is just trying to hang in.
No other european team was willing to pay him this salary... Maybe he should be grateful that Madrid payed him that much and should just leave when they are asking him politely.
In the end, I agree, he was treated like garbage. And deservedly so.
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2716 Posts
July 27 2019 14:33 GMT
#209
On July 27 2019 23:02 Pr0wler wrote:
Finally something smart from Madrid. They will keep James.
Also Bale will finally go where he belongs - outside of big football.


Selling him to Atleti was a bad idea. They needed Asensio to have a serious injure for Zidane to realise.
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-27 15:12:54
July 27 2019 15:08 GMT
#210
It is a difficult situation. He has given so much for Real and been treated like shit despite it. Most people would find it hard to remain loyal in that kind of situation. But they do at least pay him well. Zidane reamians an enigma to me. His league results sugest my nan could do a better job given the resources of the club and the quality of the league below the top teams. But winning 3 consecutive Champions Leagues trophies is hard to argue with. Bale would be welcome at most top clubs in Europe but not on the current pay scale. So what does he do? He will have to take a pay cut. You are right it would be silly from him in every way except financially to just sit on his arse and not play for Madrid. But he also does have that history of injury. A younger player should try and back themselves and prove their worth at a lesser club and end up benfiting their career in the long run with more game time. But Bale is on stupid money, not at the start of his career and has no need to prove he is world class, everyone knows it. So maybe sitting it out makes a little sense. Of things go badly for Zidane early on this season and Bale is sitting there on the bench ready to bail them out of that game. Maybe Zidane will have to bury his pride admit Bale is one of his best players and let him win a few games and help get the ship sailing in the right direction again.

Edit: a couple of cringeworthy spelling mistakes. I'm sure there's more I missed.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-27 19:53:15
July 27 2019 16:14 GMT
#211
On July 27 2019 19:26 Ansibled wrote:

:o

Damn lol, I thought he was for sure going to Napoli. I wonder how we're getting all this money

I'm still in awe as to how we managed to get Pepe. My patience has paid off
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
July 27 2019 20:59 GMT
#212
On July 28 2019 01:14 plasmidghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2019 19:26 Ansibled wrote:
https://twitter.com/bbcsport_david/status/1155052728525164544
:o

Damn lol, I thought he was for sure going to Napoli. I wonder how we're getting all this money

I'm still in awe as to how we managed to get Pepe. My patience has paid off


in awe that arsenal keeps signing attacking players despite giving up the 3rd most goals in the top 10?
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18478 Posts
July 27 2019 21:06 GMT
#213
You guys do realise that Arsenal should have made top4 easily? Their defense sucks balls yes but their offense usually made up for it except the last 5 games or so. All they needed was to win easy games at home (which they failed because they didnt score goals from midfield as Ramsey was out)
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-28 14:57:45
July 27 2019 21:22 GMT
#214
On July 28 2019 05:59 zev318 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2019 01:14 plasmidghost wrote:
On July 27 2019 19:26 Ansibled wrote:
https://twitter.com/bbcsport_david/status/1155052728525164544
:o

Damn lol, I thought he was for sure going to Napoli. I wonder how we're getting all this money

I'm still in awe as to how we managed to get Pepe. My patience has paid off


in awe that arsenal keeps signing attacking players despite giving up the 3rd most goals in the top 10?

I think our defense will be a lot better should we get Tierney in addition to Holding and Bellerin back from injuries. At least we should only allow about the same number of goals as the other top 6 teams this upcoming season
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-28 01:27:42
July 27 2019 23:45 GMT
#215
Anyone think we are going to try to sell some people to get Tierney and/or a quality CB? Not sure who we could get rid of for a decent fee. Elneny? Mkhi?

Just saw our selling of one of our youth squad wingers (Amaechi) for €2.5m plus a sell-on clause, so that's a bit more to work with

Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
July 28 2019 12:11 GMT
#216
ho boy you were so optimistic

possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1973 Posts
July 28 2019 13:26 GMT
#217
Looks like Real Madrid board blocked Bale's transfer to China. The plot thickens.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
July 28 2019 14:34 GMT
#218
On July 28 2019 21:11 sneirac wrote:
ho boy you were so optimistic

https://twitter.com/ZR_7G1/status/1155430742790430720

Well, even if we don't get any defenders, we can just win all our games 7-6, right?
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
July 28 2019 16:44 GMT
#219
I couldn't find the Emirates Cup being shown on TV here in the US, so I didn't get to watch it. How did we look despite the loss (for those that watched it)?
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
July 29 2019 01:57 GMT
#220
On July 27 2019 23:19 Bacillus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2019 23:07 sharkie wrote:
On July 27 2019 22:50 sneirac wrote:
Blame Dudek, I loved when it happened, but goalies having to obey no rules and being able to do whatever they want to distract the taker and leave the line by miles upped the pressure.


Really? The way they shot in 1996 was "I dont care what the gk does, I just convert my 100% penalty"

Nowadays penalties are like "damn I hope I can misdirect the gk and score on the other side"

I wonder how much scouting they did on penalties back at 1996. It's probably a very different thing for the player if they can just do whatever feels natural whereas nowadays you can probably expect the goalie to know your shoe size and preferred breakfast, not to speak of the penalty shot preferrences and patterns.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/5041577/Scientists-discover-secret-of-the-perfect-penalty-kick.html

Easier said than done of course, but I'd prefer players to train to master those shots, than trying to be clever and fail.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
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