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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
July 05 2020 00:27 GMT
#641
Imagine your team having the course record then qualifying this poorly a year later. BIG oof.

Nice to see Lando do well. His twitch stream got me interested in F1 earlier this year.
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Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
July 05 2020 02:14 GMT
#642
On July 05 2020 09:27 TheEmulator wrote:
Imagine your team having the course record then qualifying this poorly a year later. BIG oof.

Charles' radio message after Q2 said it all. They said "You are P10" and he just sounded flabbergasted in his response after that.

Everything I've seen online has made it seem like sentiment toward Ferrari has absolutely tanked. Their treatment of Vettel combined with how Binotto spoke of him plus it becoming more obvious that they were doing something substantial against the rules with their engine last year has seemed to have stirred up a lot of ill will toward the team. To be fair, if Ferrari actually did what it sounds like they did to Vettel (tell him in Australia that he was their top priority for his seat while negotiating behind his back without telling him and then signing someone and dropping Vettel out of nowhere), that's pretty poor on their behalf. On the engine thing, one team losing a second of pace with a certain engine in a year would be a coincidence, three teams with the same engine losing up to a second of pace suggests that Ferrari either got their engine for this year shockingly wrong, or they were getting a massive boost from something last year that they aren't using this year.

In a way I kinda feel bad for Sainz. If Ferrari doesn't get their act together, Sainz is going to be going from a pretty decent McLaren to a pretty iffy Ferrari.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
July 05 2020 02:19 GMT
#643
On July 05 2020 11:14 Ben... wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2020 09:27 TheEmulator wrote:
Imagine your team having the course record then qualifying this poorly a year later. BIG oof.

Charles' radio message after Q2 said it all. They said "You are P10" and he just sounded flabbergasted in his response after that.

Everything I've seen online has made it seem like sentiment toward Ferrari has absolutely tanked. Their treatment of Vettel combined with how Binotto spoke of him plus it becoming more obvious that they were doing something substantial against the rules with their engine last year has seemed to have stirred up a lot of ill will toward the team. To be fair, if Ferrari actually did what it sounds like they did to Vettel (tell him in Australia that he was their top priority for his seat while negotiating behind his back without telling him and then signing someone and dropping Vettel out of nowhere), that's pretty poor on their behalf. On the engine thing, one team losing a second of pace with a certain engine in a year would be a coincidence, three teams with the same engine losing up to a second of pace suggests that Ferrari either got their engine for this year shockingly wrong, or they were getting a massive boost from something last year that they aren't using this year.

In a way I kinda feel bad for Sainz. If Ferrari doesn't get their act together, Sainz is going to be going from a pretty decent McLaren to a pretty iffy Ferrari.

Yea I caught that Leclerc radio as well.

With regards to Sainz, one can at least hope he's getting a much better deal/package by going to Ferrari despite the car possibly being worse
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Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
July 05 2020 02:36 GMT
#644
Come on Red Bull. We need someone to push Mercedes or as much as I'm excited to have F1 back it's not going to be that exciting.
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
July 05 2020 02:44 GMT
#645
On July 05 2020 11:36 Greg_J wrote:
Come on Red Bull. We need someone to push Mercedes or as much as I'm excited to have F1 back it's not going to be that exciting.

I've kind of resigned to this season being like 2016 where I just ignore mercedes and watch everyone else. It sucks but at least it's something. But who knows. Verstappen seemed to think Red Bull's race pace could possibly keep up with Mercedes.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4570 Posts
July 05 2020 05:05 GMT
#646
When (T)Racing point 2019 Mercedes is the 3rd strongest package on the field, it will appear that most teams are maybe focusing on the 2021/22 regulations to come in
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KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4346 Posts
July 05 2020 12:18 GMT
#647
On July 05 2020 14:05 LennX wrote:
When (T)Racing point 2019 Mercedes is the 3rd strongest package on the field, it will appear that most teams are maybe focusing on the 2021/22 regulations to come in


Most did yes, that was discussed a lot during the build up to this preseason. The problem is that due to covid and one extra year with these cars and regulations, its essentially two championships to Mercedes.

This seems like another year where hamilton will have the "hard" task of beating an average bottas to the championship.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4570 Posts
July 05 2020 15:22 GMT
#648
What a race.....

Mercedes with gearbox issues, Hamilton knocking Albon out for a Mclaren podium and LeClerc finishing 2nd
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
July 05 2020 21:45 GMT
#649
Fastest lap by Lando in order to barely snag the podium spot. Amazing finish

Wonder how Red Bull feel right now though.
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Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
July 06 2020 02:27 GMT
#650
That race was way better than I was expecting. Even Ferrari seemed shocked at landing a podium. Watching the Mercedes-powered cars drop off one by one added a ton of tension to the race. I wonder if they will have that issue fixed by next weekend and if drivers will have to take a penalty for new gearboxes to solve the problem? It sounded like it was a sensor in the gearbox breaking and the gearboxes are sealed and not allowed to be opened from what I remember. I guess having the first race be at a track known for eating cars rather than a more gentle track like Australia certainly seems to amplify teething issues with the cars.

Gutted for Albon. He could have won the race. His explanation was good and the video backs it up. He had left Hamilton plenty of room yet Hamilton continued to go wide on the exit of the corner. There's no way Hamilton didn't see him there.

Whatever. Austria almost always gives at least decent races and we have another one to look forward to in less than a week.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
July 06 2020 04:34 GMT
#651
Suddenly unexpected excitement! I hope no one stopped watching halfway through when it look liked Mercedes had it in the bag and the team were trying to stop them racing.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
July 06 2020 05:02 GMT
#652
Mercedes got so screwed by those late resets. They were so far ahead for a while.
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LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4570 Posts
July 07 2020 15:35 GMT
#653
On July 05 2020 21:18 KobraKay wrote:

Most did yes, that was discussed a lot during the build up to this preseason. The problem is that due to covid and one extra year with these cars and regulations, its essentially two championships to Mercedes.

This seems like another year where hamilton will have the "hard" task of beating an average bottas to the championship.


I didn't expect a 2019 Mercedes engine to be so strong that it will dominate the other manufacturers engines aided with a 2020 aero package. Ferrari engine boost was terminated with the settlement with FIA. Being an "illegal" boost worth 0.5 seconds a lap was astounding



And in other news, ALONSO IS BACK!!

https://racer.com/2020/07/07/alonso-poised-for-f1-return-with-renault/


Looks like Renault will fall apart in 2021 /s
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Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
July 07 2020 19:54 GMT
#654
Knowing his luck, the Renault will DNS 4 races, blow up when he's leading another 3, and he'll miss out on the championship by 2 points.
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4570 Posts
July 10 2020 05:11 GMT
#655
Meh... "The rules, are should we say, guidelines?"

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/charles-leclerc-warned-over-coronavirus-182443787.html
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
July 10 2020 21:50 GMT
#656
Damn Lando got a 3 position grid penalty from practice 1 this morning. He's also in a lot of pain apparently (he hasn't confirmed why). Not looking like it will be a repeat of last weekend for him

On July 10 2020 14:11 LennX wrote:
Meh... "The rules, are should we say, guidelines?"

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/charles-leclerc-warned-over-coronavirus-182443787.html

Honestly this is kind of disappointing. Leclerc seems like a good kid overall, but he continuously does shit that really shows how much of a spoiled rich kid he is. This kind of behaviour could literally shut all of F1 down in the worst case scenario. Did he really need to travel to Monaco to party in week 2 of the fucking season? Like come on man lmao.

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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
July 10 2020 21:59 GMT
#657
On July 11 2020 06:50 TheEmulator wrote:
Damn Lando got a 3 position grid penalty from practice 1 this morning. He's also in a lot of pain apparently (he hasn't confirmed why). Not looking like it will be a repeat of last weekend for him

Show nested quote +
On July 10 2020 14:11 LennX wrote:
Meh... "The rules, are should we say, guidelines?"

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/charles-leclerc-warned-over-coronavirus-182443787.html

Honestly this is kind of disappointing. Leclerc seems like a good kid overall, but he continuously does shit that really shows how much of a spoiled rich kid he is. This kind of behaviour could literally shut all of F1 down in the worst case scenario. Did he really need to travel to Monaco to party in week 2 of the fucking season? Like come on man lmao.


Lando's chest could be a result of jumping into Zak's arms at speed last weekend. I've cracked a rib before and it's a struggle to even breathe at times. Can't imagine driving an F1 car in that kind of pain.

The penalty was just boneheaded though. Just spaced out and kept driving despite multiple warnings from his engineer.
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-10 22:05:23
July 10 2020 22:04 GMT
#658
On July 11 2020 06:59 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2020 06:50 TheEmulator wrote:
Damn Lando got a 3 position grid penalty from practice 1 this morning. He's also in a lot of pain apparently (he hasn't confirmed why). Not looking like it will be a repeat of last weekend for him

On July 10 2020 14:11 LennX wrote:
Meh... "The rules, are should we say, guidelines?"

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/charles-leclerc-warned-over-coronavirus-182443787.html

Honestly this is kind of disappointing. Leclerc seems like a good kid overall, but he continuously does shit that really shows how much of a spoiled rich kid he is. This kind of behaviour could literally shut all of F1 down in the worst case scenario. Did he really need to travel to Monaco to party in week 2 of the fucking season? Like come on man lmao.


Lando's chest could be a result of jumping into Zak's arms at speed last weekend. I've cracked a rib before and it's a struggle to even breathe at times. Can't imagine driving an F1 car in that kind of pain.

The penalty was just boneheaded though. Just spaced out and kept driving despite multiple warnings from his engineer.

Yea I was just reading some more into it and realized it was back/chest pain. There's a handful of video clips of him after the race complaining about how hard Zak hugged him so it's actually looking like the most likely reason lol. Hitting 4-5g while breaking with back/chest pain must be excruciating tbh.

I agree the penalty was 100% his fault. I'm not at all upset that he got hit with one, but I'm still sad as someone who wants to see him do well.
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8266 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-11 09:56:37
July 10 2020 22:11 GMT
#659
Just saw the highlights of FP2.

Excuse me, wtf is Ferrari doing? Everyone were setting their fastest times knowing that qualy might get cancelled due to rain, which would make the order of FP2 the grid order for sunday.

Meanwhile, Vettel is doodling around in 16th place doing a long range test for his mechanics. Ferrari just seems so incredibly out of touch with anything happening around them.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
July 11 2020 15:53 GMT
#660
Hamilton is back, 1.2s on 2nd more than 2nd-10th. Brilliant lap. Race should be interesting tomorrow.

Wonder how Bottas is feeling being beaten by 1.5s in the same car.
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