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Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-29 22:00:42
June 29 2019 22:00 GMT
#261
Yes that is true. Toto Wolff talked about temperature and altitude causing Mercedes a lot of issues this weekend. Given that Mercedes has been having reliability issues with the new spec of their power units, I'm curious if they'll run it a bit lower than normal to prevent any issues since it's going to be so hot tomorrow. Bottas is already using his old engine if I remember right because his new one had an oil leak that had to be fixed, Hamilton almost didn't start the previous race because of his engine having a leak, and Stroll had a complete engine failure in practice last race.

Leclerc confirmed Ferrari went through with what Binotto said they were going to try out and that it seemed to work at this track. They basically have decided to change their car setup to sacrifice some of their straight line speed advantage in exchange for more downforce for the front of the car. My understanding from what I read is that this will both allow them to corner better (more downforce) and will put more energy into the front tires, ideally keeping them at a better operating temperature range since previously their car wasn't keeping the tires consistently in the "window" enough and it was having a substantial impact on their performance.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2010 Posts
June 30 2019 12:47 GMT
#262
Hope Lando can score some good points today! I'm interested at how well Sainz can move through the field too, should be a good gauge of McLaren right now.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
June 30 2019 14:29 GMT
#263
GG finale incoming
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4104 Posts
June 30 2019 14:36 GMT
#264
thats the type of F1 we need to have. Very sad its only 1-2 races a year.
Drone is a way of living
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2010 Posts
June 30 2019 14:37 GMT
#265
What a race! Max and Sainz drove brilliant races.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
June 30 2019 14:39 GMT
#266
fucking hell, great race; hoping for no penalty now
gg
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-30 15:14:49
June 30 2019 14:58 GMT
#267
live https://streamable.com/n0lr9
replay https://streamable.com/1yezt

well well well consistency would probably mean this has to be a penalty but I can't see FIA wanting to repeat this shitshow so soon

e: onboard Max https://streamable.com/yo3gc
full sky analysis https://streamable.com/32cou
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2010 Posts
June 30 2019 15:03 GMT
#268
That was fine from Max, touch rude but he had the corner won. I would be highly surprised if he got a penalty.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
June 30 2019 15:16 GMT
#269
On July 01 2019 00:03 Aristodemus wrote:
That was fine from Max, touch rude but he had the corner won. I would be highly surprised if he got a penalty.

They were wheel to wheel and Max didn't leave any room, even opened the steering a bit and ran wider than he needed to. Given how harsh the stewards were with 50/50 calls I'd say it would be surprising if theylet him get away with it.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
June 30 2019 15:22 GMT
#270
On July 01 2019 00:16 sneirac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2019 00:03 Aristodemus wrote:
That was fine from Max, touch rude but he had the corner won. I would be highly surprised if he got a penalty.

They were wheel to wheel and Max didn't leave any room, even opened the steering a bit and ran wider than he needed to. Given how harsh the stewards were with 50/50 calls I'd say it would be surprising if theylet him get away with it.

While I think moves like that should be penalised the stewards usually don't do anything about them.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-30 15:32:39
June 30 2019 15:25 GMT
#271
Stewards probably not wanting to make the decision before all the drunk orange shirted dudes have left the area lol

The best part for me was when during a post race interview Leclerc said 'yeah the red bulls were qui...eh...well... Max was quick' . Gasly becoming a meme even for the other drivers. Red Bull has to replace him surely, he's way worse than Kvyat ever was before he got the boot. I mean Gasly got fucking lapped by Verstappen, after Verstappen failed to start well. Wtf man
Neosteel Enthusiast
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
June 30 2019 15:27 GMT
#272
Yeah hearing only set to begin at 18:00 for some reason haha
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2010 Posts
June 30 2019 15:42 GMT
#273
On July 01 2019 00:25 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Stewards probably not wanting to make the decision before all the drunk orange shirted dudes have left the area lol

The best part for me was when during a post race interview Leclerc said 'yeah the red bulls were qui...eh...well... Max was quick' . Gasly becoming a meme even for the other drivers. Red Bull has to replace him surely, he's way worse than Kvyat ever was before he got the boot. I mean Gasly got fucking lapped by Verstappen, after Verstappen failed to start well. Wtf man


Who from the RB programme could compete with Max? The only driver who has so far (Sainz) has left.

For the guys calling for a penalty, count how many times people bailed out of trying to go around the outside of somebody in that corner in this one race. You don't put yourself in that position because you will always be run out of road by the other driver.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
June 30 2019 15:47 GMT
#274
On July 01 2019 00:42 Aristodemus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2019 00:25 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Stewards probably not wanting to make the decision before all the drunk orange shirted dudes have left the area lol

The best part for me was when during a post race interview Leclerc said 'yeah the red bulls were qui...eh...well... Max was quick' . Gasly becoming a meme even for the other drivers. Red Bull has to replace him surely, he's way worse than Kvyat ever was before he got the boot. I mean Gasly got fucking lapped by Verstappen, after Verstappen failed to start well. Wtf man


Who from the RB programme could compete with Max? The only driver who has so far (Sainz) has left.


I mean they don't have to be equal or beat Max, just get somewhat similar laptimes and not almost a second off the pace every race. I'm sure both Kvyat and Albon could do better. I'd also like RB to buy Ocon maybe even if that would go against their programme.
Neosteel Enthusiast
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-30 15:54:19
June 30 2019 15:51 GMT
#275
On July 01 2019 00:42 Aristodemus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2019 00:25 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Stewards probably not wanting to make the decision before all the drunk orange shirted dudes have left the area lol

The best part for me was when during a post race interview Leclerc said 'yeah the red bulls were qui...eh...well... Max was quick' . Gasly becoming a meme even for the other drivers. Red Bull has to replace him surely, he's way worse than Kvyat ever was before he got the boot. I mean Gasly got fucking lapped by Verstappen, after Verstappen failed to start well. Wtf man


Who from the RB programme could compete with Max? The only driver who has so far (Sainz) has left.

For the guys calling for a penalty, count how many times people bailed out of trying to go around the outside of somebody in that corner in this one race. You don't put yourself in that position because you will always be run out of road by the other driver.

It worked the lap before, Max left room and Leclerc was able to get past into the next turn, that was what max wanted to avoid so he left no room this time.
I think this is a 50/50 call that should probably be let go as a racing incident, however since FIA have been strict this seaosn they should be consistent and that would mean a penalty.

e: this Rosberg/Max incident everyone comparing it too that got a penalty 2016, seems more blatant tho

possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2010 Posts
June 30 2019 15:54 GMT
#276
I agree Gasly is not doing a good enough job but also I have to say I think Max is the best driver on the grid right now so everyone will struggle. I also agree RB should look outside of their programme but I doubt they will. It isn't how they operate.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2010 Posts
June 30 2019 15:56 GMT
#277
On July 01 2019 00:51 sneirac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2019 00:42 Aristodemus wrote:
On July 01 2019 00:25 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Stewards probably not wanting to make the decision before all the drunk orange shirted dudes have left the area lol

The best part for me was when during a post race interview Leclerc said 'yeah the red bulls were qui...eh...well... Max was quick' . Gasly becoming a meme even for the other drivers. Red Bull has to replace him surely, he's way worse than Kvyat ever was before he got the boot. I mean Gasly got fucking lapped by Verstappen, after Verstappen failed to start well. Wtf man


Who from the RB programme could compete with Max? The only driver who has so far (Sainz) has left.

For the guys calling for a penalty, count how many times people bailed out of trying to go around the outside of somebody in that corner in this one race. You don't put yourself in that position because you will always be run out of road by the other driver.

It worked the lap before, Max left room and Leclerc was able to get past into the next turn, that was what max wanted to avoid so he left no room this time.



Exactly that.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
June 30 2019 16:03 GMT
#278
I think Rosberg takes the corner way wide, almost being along the white line for 70% of the corner. Max is only at the outside of the corner when they touch wheels.

I could understand a penalty given that he basically bumps him off track but it could just as well be racing.

Though I don't know if there's any way Leclerc takes that corner while still being ahead.
Neosteel Enthusiast
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-30 16:25:56
June 30 2019 16:13 GMT
#279
https://streamable.com/p1bt2

comparison of lap before and the crash

Also apparently stewards ruling not expected for 90 minutes from now, really giving the dutch time to disperse if its bad news =)

e: also because FIA didn't show it during race

[image loading]
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-30 16:35:48
June 30 2019 16:31 GMT
#280
+ Show Spoiler [apparently fake] +
[image loading]
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