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Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1999 Posts
June 09 2019 19:42 GMT
#241
I think he knew exactly what he was doing but I don't think it was a penalty. Danny Ricc weaving all over the place at 200+mph was more worthy of a penalty for me.
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sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-09 19:48:48
June 09 2019 19:44 GMT
#242
Oh wtf did they actually let Leclerk get past him? Ferrari legends

e: ah just sky uk being stupid
e2: oh wow vettel throwing a tantrum after race, lets see if that will have further consequences
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fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4028 Posts
June 09 2019 19:53 GMT
#243
On May 12 2019 23:56 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
Exactly, Vettel is strongest when he has an empty field in front of him. But even then we remember races where pressure from behind would force him to make mistakes. Something Ham never does.


and there we go again. Absolutely pathetic performance by Seb, what a joke. Cant wait for Ferrari getting them a proper #2 next to Lec.
Drone is a way of living
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5296 Posts
June 09 2019 20:05 GMT
#244
On June 10 2019 04:42 Aristodemus wrote:
I think he knew exactly what he was doing but I don't think it was a penalty. Danny Ricc weaving all over the place at 200+mph was more worthy of a penalty for me.
that. he maximized the outcome of the situation ignoring probable/possible safety issues.
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Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-09 20:27:28
June 09 2019 20:24 GMT
#245
Bullshit, they can't really know if Vettel had controll over the car. Yet they were pretty fast to give the penalty. They should've waited for the telemetry data after the race and then decide.
This just shows how this sport is terribly mismanaged.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
June 09 2019 20:34 GMT
#246
On June 10 2019 05:24 Pr0wler wrote:
Bullshit, they can't really know if Vettel had controll over the car. Yet they were pretty fast to give the penalty. They should've waited for the telemetry data after the race and then decide.
This just shows how this sport is terribly mismanaged.

Nah they probably had his telemetry and saw that Vettel went full on the throttle way too early. I still think this is harsh but for fucks sake Vettel absolutely caused this situation himself with two fairly bad mistakes
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8165 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-09 21:58:31
June 09 2019 21:58 GMT
#247
So in my mind there's zero doubt that Vettel was being stupid there. He did not deserve to keep his position. However, this goes against the philosophy of "let them race" that they've been trying to push for a while now. From an entertainment perspective, that penalty makes no sense. If they wanted to penalize, a much better solution would be to tell Vettel to let Hamilton pass, and have him fight to retake the position.
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
June 09 2019 22:42 GMT
#248
I'm not a fan of the penalty, but of course it has to be stated that Vettel made a mistake. Again. Hamilton is more consistent, you gotta have to admit that.
Vettel's behaviour after the race was understandable but also kinda childish. Schumacher would have probably beaten up a steward, though.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
June 10 2019 04:11 GMT
#249
I would rather my athletes act childish sometimes and show some emotion than be stoic like most esports players.
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8165 Posts
June 10 2019 09:55 GMT
#250
On June 10 2019 13:11 Spicy_Curry wrote:
I would rather my athletes act childish sometimes and show some emotion than be stoic like most esports players.


Oh 100%. I really liked Vettel's antics after the race. The 2 points they added to his Super License for it is a bit annoying, but it probably won't matter all that much.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 10 2019 19:00 GMT
#251
Vettel so funny poor guy. He has defo lost his racing edge he used to be leading races forever, think he still holds certain records for leading the most laps etc, but since last year he makes so many unforced errors just like this weekend in Canada. Now whether you agree with the 5-second penalty, he made a huge mistake which has cost him the race again just like the huge mistakes he made last season which cost him a lot of races.

Also what would have happened if Hamilton wasn't able to find his brake pedal in time and Vettel took them both out, would Vettel have got a grid penalty for the next race?
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fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4028 Posts
June 10 2019 19:19 GMT
#252
Imo the worst thing about Vettel's mistake is that Ham wasn't really pushing him all that much. Vettel wasn't under insane amount of pressure trying to defend and close the corners against a faster car behind. So in this sense its more impressive that Leclerc 2 places behind didn't make any mistakes while a 4-times world champion did.

Just a good reminder of what Vettel does when car behind him is faster (which was barely the case in RedBull championship era).
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8165 Posts
June 10 2019 21:26 GMT
#253
On June 11 2019 04:00 Pandemona wrote:
Vettel so funny poor guy. He has defo lost his racing edge he used to be leading races forever, think he still holds certain records for leading the most laps etc, but since last year he makes so many unforced errors just like this weekend in Canada. Now whether you agree with the 5-second penalty, he made a huge mistake which has cost him the race again just like the huge mistakes he made last season which cost him a lot of races.

Also what would have happened if Hamilton wasn't able to find his brake pedal in time and Vettel took them both out, would Vettel have got a grid penalty for the next race?


That would have been a grid penalty, yes. Probably 5 places
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4560 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-23 14:41:51
June 23 2019 14:24 GMT
#254
Vettel currently on Plan F for the France GP.

lmao. guess its for the fastest lap at the end of the GP

Bollard flying off is the most exciting part of the race

Nvm Final 2 laps are exciting. Not bad for a 53 laps race where 51 laps are a procession

Sucky for Norris for losing 3 places at the end after fighting mechanical issues for so long =/
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virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
June 23 2019 14:43 GMT
#255
F2, F3, Formula E are really exciting to watch.
F1 is a snoozefest.

You gotta admit that Hamilton drove really well today. Fastest lap after fastest lap, amazing consistency.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8165 Posts
June 23 2019 14:44 GMT
#256
This race should have been 5 laps longer, it suddenly got VERY exciting at the last lap there.

Shame for Norris. He deserved that driver of the day. Did you see how much his car twitched on every single corner? He would have kept the place if Daniel hadn't pushed him off, and then he lost 3 places instead. Absolute massive unluck.
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1999 Posts
June 23 2019 20:23 GMT
#257
Such a shame for Lando to lose out today after fighting so hard to hold on. I was really happy to see McLaren perform well though, hopefully them and Renault can step up and bridge the gap to the top three teams. The B teams like Haas and Toro Rosso will never be able to do that.
Looked extremely easy today for Lewis, has he broken Bottas? We will see in Austria which is probably Bottas' best track.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4560 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-29 16:16:21
June 29 2019 13:52 GMT
#258
Excuse me, WTF are you doing Ferrrai? Q3 and both cars with issues. Problems solved hopefully for Leclerc. Vettel OUT

Whiny Hamilton as usual with Crofty busy defending him as usual

Leclerc POLE! Pity for Bottas getting screwed by his own teammates so many times during Quali


E: Hamilton gets 3 place grid penalty for impeding Kimi during Q1
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Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
June 29 2019 17:06 GMT
#259
We finally appear to have an actual race on our hands. It sounds like Ferrari's decision to change their setup philosophy to be higher downforce has paid off, at least at this track. They suddenly seem to be at or above Mercedes' level. It's not like Canada where Vettel was ahead but it was easy to tell that the Mercedes was faster through most of the track other than straights. The Ferrari car appears to be genuinely faster on both straights and corners than Mercedes this weekend.

Not to mention Red Bull is slowly but surely catching back up. They were clearly behind at the start of the year, and now they're getting to be roughly on the level of Ferrari and Mercedes. Well, at least one of the Red Bulls. Gasly has some serious work to do. He made a big mistake in Q3. Norris out-qualified him in a slower McLaren. Again. Even Christian Horner has been starting to voice his displeasure at Gasly's performances.

Gasly might get one more year at Red Bull, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if they replaced him with Albon at some point. Albon was supposed to be a seat-filler and he has ended up being one of the breakout drivers of the season so far. He's doing better than Kvyat and Franz Tost has been talking him up a ton.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 29 2019 17:42 GMT
#260
Don't forget another issue here is the extreme heat which plays havoc on cars too which is the reason for a slower Mercedes, they have notoriously had issues with extreme heat which we have in Europe for this weekend.

Hamilton grid penalty makes sense, glad they are keeping the same rules for everyone but being so far ahead of Vettel still it should be a fun race.
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