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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 15 2018 22:00 GMT
#2621
Yes, it is possible to be so dumb that you even lose utilizing the best strategy for dumb teams. And look, GSW didn't think Steph would be this good, Orlando picked Oladipo and traded him for almost nothing. On the other hand they made the finals with Dwight.

What is your suggestion for dumb teams? Sign a bunch of Reggie Jackson contracts and trade for a bunch of Blake Griffens? He'll the Clippers run of semi-relevance only existed because they got Blake and the NBA tampered on their behalf.

Freeeeeeedom
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 16 2018 00:20 GMT
#2622
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 16 2018 01:03 GMT
#2623
Its more fun to cheer for your team to lose than to cheer for them to win with a 0% chance of that happening until you turn 45.

If you don't like tanking, actually fix the problem and eliminate the draft, which is a creepy and bad system to begin with. Slapping Band-Aids onto the system is just stupid.
Freeeeeeedom
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10522 Posts
March 16 2018 02:28 GMT
#2624
https://streamable.com/48cts
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 16 2018 02:42 GMT
#2625
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 16 2018 03:23 GMT
#2626
On March 16 2018 11:42 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2018 10:03 cLutZ wrote:
Its more fun to cheer for your team to lose than to cheer for them to win with a 0% chance of that happening until you turn 45.

If you don't like tanking, actually fix the problem and eliminate the draft, which is a creepy and bad system to begin with. Slapping Band-Aids onto the system is just stupid.

K fix it. Your plan?

Fix tanking? Easy end the draft. Kids can declare for free agency at whatever age they put in the cba. There, done.
Freeeeeeedom
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 16 2018 12:35 GMT
#2627
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 16 2018 13:14 GMT
#2628
You would have a hard cap and no individual max salary. Big market teams would have to watch their spending also.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 16 2018 13:36 GMT
#2629
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 16 2018 13:41 GMT
#2630
Why would Milwaukee be paying 5x the price?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-16 13:56:06
March 16 2018 13:55 GMT
#2631
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
March 16 2018 15:47 GMT
#2632
That's also the counterpoint to your anti-tanking suggestions. Just because teams are trying to win doesn't mean they are going to win. And at some point, it gets old watching your team try to win and fail for decades. Tanking in the current system at least gives them hope of being relevant in the intermediate future.

There are no systems available that create parity while eliminating tanking. Everything has a major drawback that you haven't thought about yet. The NBA has tried to come up with incentives to keep the Durants of the world to stay with their small market teams. It always blows up in their face with unintended consequences.

You know what happens with lottery reform that gives greater odds for teams with better records? It gives the Spurs of the world an incentive to hold Kawhi out and get a nice draft pick. You bet some owners who would just get swept by the Rockets and Warriors of the world would just rather punt the playoffs in exchange for that high draft pick you want to give them.

That's tanking too, but by better teams closer to contention. That would be even worse than bad teams tanking. In some cases, bad teams are so bad you can't tell whether they are tanking or not. It would be very easy to spot a playoff contender tanking.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-16 16:04:31
March 16 2018 16:03 GMT
#2633
On March 16 2018 22:55 JimmiC wrote:
If Free agency has taught us anything it is that smaller, less desirable cities have to way over pay to get talent. That won't change if they are 18 year olds, in fact it might be worse. You think some 18-19 year old wouldn't rather live in south beach then Milwaukee? The draft was brought in because LA and bos were getting ALL the talent.


LA and Boston were getting all the good players because they were trading picks with stupid teams. The NBA back then was a pretty rigged game. Most teams didn't have any idea on how to value players and picks...shit this might not have changed so much.

Regarding rookie FAs- remember the hard cap 😎. If LA or any other big market team wants to sign a rookie 5x the price other teams will - let them. They've just used a ton of space to do so. Whether the player is good or not they're limited in signing other valuable players because they've blown their cap.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-16 16:18:45
March 16 2018 16:14 GMT
#2634
On March 16 2018 12:23 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2018 11:42 JimmiC wrote:
On March 16 2018 10:03 cLutZ wrote:
Its more fun to cheer for your team to lose than to cheer for them to win with a 0% chance of that happening until you turn 45.

If you don't like tanking, actually fix the problem and eliminate the draft, which is a creepy and bad system to begin with. Slapping Band-Aids onto the system is just stupid.

K fix it. Your plan?

Fix tanking? Easy end the draft. Kids can declare for free agency at whatever age they put in the cba. There, done.


thats very wishful thinking.

the PA will never agree to let rookies be FAs from the start and sign big contracts, and nor will the owners. because that takes away money from players that are in the league already (u think they will be ok with rookies being FAs while they had to put in years of work to get there?) and the owners dont want to spend tons of money on unproven talent.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 16 2018 16:57 GMT
#2635
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-16 18:29:34
March 16 2018 17:21 GMT
#2636
Marcus Smart is having surgery on his thumb today.
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Shams 1
Woj 0

another clear endorsement of Ujiri and Casey as team builders.
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Casey is constantly screwing-with//staggering CJ Miles minutes... so for CJ to say this means a lot.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 16 2018 19:02 GMT
#2637
On March 17 2018 01:14 zev318 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2018 12:23 cLutZ wrote:
On March 16 2018 11:42 JimmiC wrote:
On March 16 2018 10:03 cLutZ wrote:
Its more fun to cheer for your team to lose than to cheer for them to win with a 0% chance of that happening until you turn 45.

If you don't like tanking, actually fix the problem and eliminate the draft, which is a creepy and bad system to begin with. Slapping Band-Aids onto the system is just stupid.

K fix it. Your plan?

Fix tanking? Easy end the draft. Kids can declare for free agency at whatever age they put in the cba. There, done.


thats very wishful thinking.

the PA will never agree to let rookies be FAs from the start and sign big contracts, and nor will the owners. because that takes away money from players that are in the league already (u think they will be ok with rookies being FAs while they had to put in years of work to get there?) and the owners dont want to spend tons of money on unproven talent.

That is true. However, all "draft reform" so far is just defeating the purpose of a draft, which is to make bad teams better.
Freeeeeeedom
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
March 17 2018 00:25 GMT
#2638
On March 17 2018 02:21 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Marcus Smart is having surgery on his thumb today.
+ Show Spoiler +
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/974668416236834817


Shams 1
Woj 0

You obviously weren't counting at the trade deadline. Woj wiped the floor with shams.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 17 2018 01:22 GMT
#2639
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 01:35:44
March 17 2018 01:29 GMT
#2640
On March 17 2018 09:25 MassHysteria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 02:21 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Marcus Smart is having surgery on his thumb today.
+ Show Spoiler +
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/974668416236834817


Shams 1
Woj 0

You obviously weren't counting at the trade deadline. Woj wiped the floor with shams.

ya, i'm just counting the Smart thing.
i'm surprised Woj accepted and propogated the "sprain" explanation when Smart is going to the best hand orthopeadist on planet earth for a 2nd opinion on surgery.

the story now is Smart will be out for 6 to 8 weeks. That sounds like a tear and the surgeon is sewing the ligament back together. its not like an ACL thing where they "build" a new ligament. So i guess that is good news.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
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