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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
March 17 2018 03:34 GMT
#2641
lol Virginia
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
March 17 2018 06:53 GMT
#2642
Durant with a rib injury... That's a rough injury to deal with. Not much medical staff can do and it's so tightly linked to the core it affects almost everything an athlete does. From breathing to even just lifting their arms...

Had a bruised rib once and I was in serious pain for 4 weeks, with lingering pain for 4 weeks after that.

Meanwhile Raptors tied for second best record in the league and 2-0 against Houston... Golden State is scary because they can actually defend. But with all of their injuries... Could be the year the stars align!!
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 17 2018 14:09 GMT
#2643
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16998 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 16:02:50
March 17 2018 14:33 GMT
#2644
Daylight savings time just happened... and OKC plays Toronto in a 1pm EDT game.
If i were OKC management i'd be pretty pissed ... its like they are playing an 11 AM game.
On March 17 2018 15:53 Nemireck wrote:
Durant with a rib injury... That's a rough injury to deal with.


Allegedly , this is the play that caused the injury.
+ Show Spoiler +

it doesn't look that bad.. but if they say its an incomplete fracture.. then it is. any how, he tried to play with that injury and aggravated it in the next game
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
March 17 2018 16:54 GMT
#2645
On March 17 2018 23:09 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 12:34 andrewlt wrote:
lol Virginia

Congratulations! You are now part of history for ever! Expect to be a trivial pursuit answer and much more!


Not even just a no. 1 seed, they are the no. 1 overall seed and by a blowout.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 17 2018 16:58 GMT
#2646
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 17 2018 20:25 GMT
#2647
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MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
March 17 2018 22:23 GMT
#2648
Interesting thread on the 16>1 victory last nite

"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 17 2018 23:58 GMT
#2649
I guess since I watch NBA more than NCAABB I find that guy's "revelations" pretty boring and just an indictment against people who think that NCAA coaching is better than what kids would get in, say, the G-League.
Freeeeeeedom
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-18 00:20:49
March 18 2018 00:12 GMT
#2650
why is "revelations" in quotes? I don't think he ever says that or I would have found it funny.

And I don't watch any college BBQ BB (not this or any game this tourney) but I still found a lot of it interesting. Mostly the stuff about how college BB is ran though so /shrug. It was pretty dam long though so props if you read it all.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16998 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-18 00:27:06
March 18 2018 00:25 GMT
#2651
it feels like the Cavs have gone through a dozen point guards this year... its been clear all year they don't want Calderon at point guard.
however, it looks to me like their offense runs best with Calderon at point guard.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 18 2018 00:26 GMT
#2652
I put "revelations" in quotes because its all stuff that is super obvious. Like, U of I accidentally stumbled into a good team in 2006 or so because they discovered that playing 2 point guards who could shoot 3s made them win more.
Freeeeeeedom
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-18 00:37:00
March 18 2018 00:35 GMT
#2653
On March 18 2018 09:25 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
it feels like the Cavs have gone through a dozen point guards this year... its been clear all year they don't want Calderon at point guard.
however, it looks to me like their offense runs best with Calderon at point guard.

I never understood why they got Calderon in the first place. Specially after they got rid of Irving, I thought they needed someone who could run their offense more and be more dynamic off the bench (he works really slow now). He can really shoot it/stretch it though and if LBJ is running that offense mostly I can buy that.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16998 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-18 00:53:50
March 18 2018 00:46 GMT
#2654
i got off my lazy ass and looked it up.

https://stats.nba.com/lineups/advanced/?CF=TEAM_ABBREVIATION*E*CLE&Season=2017-18&SeasonType=Regular Season&sort=OFF_RATING&dir=1

the Cavs aer 17-8 with Calderon starting at Point Guard. LBJ magically becomes decent "off ball" with Calderon at the point. I hear complaints LBJ can't play "off ball" ... but when Calderon is running things LBJ looks good to me... i mean the whole offense looks good.... and now that i looked it up.. the #s back it up.

On March 18 2018 09:35 MassHysteria wrote:
I never understood why they got Calderon in the first place. Specially after they got rid of Irving, I thought they needed someone who could run their offense more and be more dynamic off the bench (he works really slow now).

the 2 choices at this point seem to be either Hill or Calderon and their pace of play is about the same at ~96. So Calderon might look slow.. but they both move the offense at the same pace.

as far as "dynamic" goes... i'd say that relative to the Cavs choices that Calderon is "effective".

I think Cleveland should start Calderon for a while and try to outscore their opponents. Ya his defense is weaker than Hill ... but their offense is deadly. Also, I kinda like this Hill/Calderon double PG line up. They are both pretty big PGs.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
March 18 2018 00:53 GMT
#2655
On March 18 2018 09:12 MassHysteria wrote:
why is "revelations" in quotes? I don't think he ever says that or I would have found it funny.

And I don't watch any college BBQ BB (not this or any game this tourney) but I still found a lot of it interesting. Mostly the stuff about how college BB is ran though so /shrug. It was pretty dam long though so props if you read it all.


Like clutz, I mostly watch the NBA. But I do watch a few NCAA games every March since I like picking brackets. This stuff is very easy to see for any NBA fan that's just a little more than casual. Read any article from the likes of Zach Lowe and you can figure this stuff out.

NCAA coverage is a hagiography about college coaches. It's not analytical nor logical at all.

I'll give an example. You know how the announcers frequently mention that this or that well coached college team forces teams to defend them for 20-25 seconds? If you watch enough NBA, it's very easy to see that those college teams are mindlessly moving the ball around the perimeter for most of those 20-25 seconds. It's nonsensical side to side shit that doesn't break down opposing defenses at all. There's no way this style of play will tire out any NBA team since it's obvious to any professional that they are just running meaningless actions without trying to score. The pros will simply not tire themselves out jumping at every meaningless action. But college fans will always point to this as evidence that college players are playing harder than pros. The pros know better than to respond to useless shit that doesn't do anything.
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-18 01:10:39
March 18 2018 00:57 GMT
#2656
On March 18 2018 09:26 cLutZ wrote:
I put "revelations" in quotes because its all stuff that is super obvious. Like, U of I accidentally stumbled into a good team in 2006 or so because they discovered that playing 2 point guards who could shoot 3s made them win more.

Yet the main thing I got out of it is how college teams/programs haven't followed 'super'obvious trends as well as they could (not the things I already knew).

I appreciated the specific examples he gave on specific players and programs. He clearly follows college bball closely and in this case works closely with CBB, and I do neither of those. It's ok if you don't agree though (spec if you watched the game or ncaab unlike me), not knocking you or w/e..
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16998 Posts
March 18 2018 01:00 GMT
#2657
Calderon is still a decent playmaker but Chicago is making him look like John Stockton tonight.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
March 18 2018 01:55 GMT
#2658
The biggest benefit to playing Calderon is that he doesn't turn the ball over much, which is really important with the Cavs attrocious D.

He's always been a pretty reliable PG, but you get what you get with him. A decent PG who knows how to play, can nail a shot here and there, and doesn't give up lazy turnovers.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 18 2018 04:28 GMT
#2659
Calderon has always been slightly underrated aside from like 1 year where I feel like people thought he was a top PG. The fact is that he plays a position that you actually want to minimize on your salary cap, and does it fairly well.

That said, if he is a keystone of your team, that is no bueno.
Freeeeeeedom
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16998 Posts
March 18 2018 12:59 GMT
#2660
Had Calderon and Garbajosa not played for Spain every summer.. and if Garbajosa didn't have that gruesome ankle injury the Raptors could've had a long 2007 playoff run. It woulda been pretty cool. As it was Garbo and Calderon played every summer and ran out of gas every April.

oh well.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
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