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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 17 2018 15:17 GMT
#5621
Yeah Milner quit back in Hodgson time before the last Euros or World Cup i forget which because he didn't get "guaranteed" play time lol.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 17 2018 15:19 GMT
#5622
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 17 2018 15:27 GMT
#5623
Henry as assistant be a good choice now he has had some experience with that role at Belgium. Not sure why you would go Arteta over Veira personally but that's just me xD
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LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4572 Posts
May 17 2018 16:25 GMT
#5624
On May 18 2018 00:27 Pandemona wrote:
Henry as assistant be a good choice now he has had some experience with that role at Belgium. Not sure why you would go Arteta over Veira personally but that's just me xD


Veira made quite a number of negative remarks on Wenger and Arsenal after he left. Anyone who criticises Wenger gets the boot no matter who you are, even as a former club captain.

While Arteta and Henry are also former captains who held their tongue.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-17 17:33:02
May 17 2018 17:29 GMT
#5625
??? Why would Barca suddenly need a reserve of cash. They are the equivalent of a Oil Company.




"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
May 17 2018 19:51 GMT
#5626
When you're ahead, get more ahead
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 17 2018 21:27 GMT
#5627
By selling those players to trade for 1?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-18 00:30:56
May 17 2018 22:39 GMT
#5628
On May 18 2018 06:27 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
By selling those players to trade for 1?


arent they all trash anyways

and i dunno, if u were a supporter of any club, would you rather they bring in new faces who may or may not be more motivated or sit on your CL winning roster like RM and possibly have motivational issues
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-18 01:11:27
May 18 2018 01:08 GMT
#5629
They have cash issues. They pay too much salary compared to their revenue. That's what happens when you don't sell any player and just loan them forever like Deulofeu/Rafinha/Arda... Barça is a great club but they're really really bad at selling players haha.

Also all those players that won everything multiple times and got raises every other year while never leaving the club (not that it's a terrible thing) don't help.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
May 18 2018 01:55 GMT
#5630
On May 17 2018 23:07 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2018 11:12 Espers wrote:
playing vs Tunisia and Panama who'll happily take a draw, of course England have to play an attacking game. Lallana and Wilshere's creativity will be much needed, I don't think Henderson/Dier do much in attack and Alli is basically a striker relying on others

don't really see why Welbeck is needed in place of another CM..


Right except neither Lallana (who isnt really all that creative anyway and certainly not as a number 10) nor Wilshere have actually displayed enough creativity or been available consistently enough to prove they would merit a spot over the current English setup.

England have fallen into that trap far to many times in the past.

my lineup would be something like

Butland?
Stones Cahill Jones Walker Young
Dier
Sterling Ali Lingard ( I really like this kid)
Kane

I think

Pope
Walker Stones Cahill Young
Dier Henderson
Sterling Ali Rashford
Kane
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
palexhur
Profile Joined May 2010
Colombia730 Posts
May 18 2018 03:06 GMT
#5631
Gl selling Dembele for even the 50% of the price that they paid for him.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 18 2018 07:41 GMT
#5632
Luckily with Dembele, Klopp is a huge fan and reportedly insturcted Liverpool board to "get him at any cost" that was the rumour back in April. He is his top target for summer supposedly lol.
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WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
May 18 2018 11:50 GMT
#5633
I don't think they want to sell him. They could loan him and sell Suarez next year to free a spot if they sign Griezmann this year. If not, he'll stay for sure. He's super talented, a bit like Neymar he needs to build some muscle first so he doesn't fall at every contact. He's not as good at finishing but Barça doesn't need him to.

The problem is that he's not the best profile to play in 4-4-2, and as long as Messi and Suarez are in the team, it seems like it's going to be the preferred tactic.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-18 12:17:46
May 18 2018 12:17 GMT
#5634
On May 18 2018 10:55 nayumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2018 23:07 Rebs wrote:
On May 17 2018 11:12 Espers wrote:
playing vs Tunisia and Panama who'll happily take a draw, of course England have to play an attacking game. Lallana and Wilshere's creativity will be much needed, I don't think Henderson/Dier do much in attack and Alli is basically a striker relying on others

don't really see why Welbeck is needed in place of another CM..


Right except neither Lallana (who isnt really all that creative anyway and certainly not as a number 10) nor Wilshere have actually displayed enough creativity or been available consistently enough to prove they would merit a spot over the current English setup.

England have fallen into that trap far to many times in the past.

my lineup would be something like

Butland?
Stones Cahill Jones Walker Young
Dier
Sterling Ali Lingard ( I really like this kid)
Kane

I think

Pope
Walker Stones Cahill Young
Dier Henderson
Sterling Ali Rashford
Kane


Yeah that works too although I would still play Lingard over Rashford, but thats just preference.

Both lineups achieve roughly the same objective with young and walker having license to push up and they will have to if England is going to score goals against lesser teams
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
May 18 2018 15:31 GMT
#5635
On May 18 2018 20:50 WillyWanker wrote:
I don't think they want to sell him. They could loan him and sell Suarez next year to free a spot if they sign Griezmann this year. If not, he'll stay for sure. He's super talented, a bit like Neymar he needs to build some muscle first so he doesn't fall at every contact. He's not as good at finishing but Barça doesn't need him to.

The problem is that he's not the best profile to play in 4-4-2, and as long as Messi and Suarez are in the team, it seems like it's going to be the preferred tactic.

He was great in a 442 under Tuchel but he was at the opposite side of Reus and he should have been at the opposite side of Messi. Though his best games were probably right behind Aubameyang in the middle of the pitch when Reus was injured (Reus at the world cup hype, crossing fingers).

I just want to see Dembélé play, he's wasted at Barcelona, even if he scored or assisted every 90 minutes he had a terrible season.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 18 2018 15:33 GMT
#5636
On May 18 2018 20:50 WillyWanker wrote:
I don't think they want to sell him. They could loan him and sell Suarez next year to free a spot if they sign Griezmann this year. If not, he'll stay for sure. He's super talented, a bit like Neymar he needs to build some muscle first so he doesn't fall at every contact. He's not as good at finishing but Barça doesn't need him to.

The problem is that he's not the best profile to play in 4-4-2, and as long as Messi and Suarez are in the team, it seems like it's going to be the preferred tactic.

I guess with an aging squad Barca do need to ship people around but i agree that Dembele is not the place to start. Suarez Messi the wrong side of 30 would be place to save money! Biscuits replacement etc etc. Get rid of the old ones not the young ones.
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WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
May 18 2018 15:35 GMT
#5637
He was injured for a long time, it's not really Barça's fault. You can say that next season if he gets benched.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28911 Posts
May 18 2018 15:49 GMT
#5638
Messi and Suarez look like the reason why Barcelona actually had a pretty decent season, at least result wise. 46 and 36 goal/assist in 35 and 32 games respectively. And when you say 'wrong side of 30', they're both 30. Ronaldo is 33 and still great. No reason to get rid of either player yet imo, top players can play for longer than they used to be able to do. Especially Messi has such a diverse skillset that I could see him have a Giggsy evolution as a player, and that he can be an important piece in the Barcelona machinery for another 7-8 years, at least as long as he stays motivated.
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Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2117 Posts
May 18 2018 16:46 GMT
#5639
Is the 442 what Barca prefers?

It kind of went there once Neymar hastily left and Dembele was injured and all that. It sure worked this season, but I could see them shifting around quite a bit now that they've got Dembele back and Coutinho available for the whole season.
Espers
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom606 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-19 05:52:54
May 19 2018 05:31 GMT
#5640
Valverde likes it, he used it vs Roma even though Dembele was available :/

it's sad that Messi isn't winning Balon Dors or finding success in the CL recently, he's basically as good as ever but Barca don't give him the support he needs anymore to really turn it on 08-12 style. it's just a team of individuals playing with little structure now, making weird galactico signings like the old real madrid.

Real have players like Isco and Kovacic on the bench, they'd walk into Barca's team
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