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TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-19 20:32:29
May 19 2018 20:31 GMT
#5661
On May 20 2018 05:16 Mafe wrote:
Just another game to remind me that the DFB is based in Frankfurt, which is through miraculous means the only german city to have hosted both the 2006 mens and 2011 womens world cup (except Berlin, which had a single game in 2011). And they even were wearing a white-black-white kit that is traditionally the color pattern of the national team.
In any case, it looked like a penalty to me and I'm pretty sure the ref wouldnt have reversed his decision either if had called it on the field.
Though taking a step back, there is most likely nothing behind it, but really, I can stand the club, and my few visit to city were of mixed experience at best.

let's be honest... it's just Zwayer being Zwayer. We allknow he is only there because he is a good subordinate to the ref bosses. He even got called out by some colleagues for his refereeing. He is just a shit ref who has no business refereeing at the big stage
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8663 Posts
May 20 2018 07:00 GMT
#5662
no lukaku for 90mins sucked for us but if conte doesnt get sacked i think it was worth it. #contein
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-20 09:15:59
May 20 2018 09:14 GMT
#5663
On May 20 2018 05:31 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2018 05:16 Mafe wrote:
Just another game to remind me that the DFB is based in Frankfurt, which is through miraculous means the only german city to have hosted both the 2006 mens and 2011 womens world cup (except Berlin, which had a single game in 2011). And they even were wearing a white-black-white kit that is traditionally the color pattern of the national team.
In any case, it looked like a penalty to me and I'm pretty sure the ref wouldnt have reversed his decision either if had called it on the field.
Though taking a step back, there is most likely nothing behind it, but really, I can stand the club, and my few visit to city were of mixed experience at best.

let's be honest... it's just Zwayer being Zwayer. We allknow he is only there because he is a good subordinate to the ref bosses. He even got called out by some colleagues for his refereeing. He is just a shit ref who has no business refereeing at the big stage

Zwayer is supposed to go to the World Cup as VAR too. FIFA needs to stop this blind fool. It was such a clear penalty it's ridiculous he didn't give it after reviewing the video footage. Even Boateng called it a clear foul in post-match interview.

And maybe he would have given it if it wasn't the 4th minute of overtime in the Cup finals with the angry Frankfurt fans but just found himself lacking some balls yesterday.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
May 20 2018 09:48 GMT
#5664
It seems to me people are generally missing why there was some doubt in the ref's mind over giving the penalty. It is most likely because Boateng did not hit Tolisso intentionally. Both kicked at the ball, but Tolisso was faster resulting in Boateng hitting him. That way you could argue that Tolisso made Boateng hit him. Add to that that for VAR turnover things have to be very obvious and it does not become such an easy decision anymore.
Off-season = best season
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-20 13:06:04
May 20 2018 12:59 GMT
#5665
On May 20 2018 18:48 Redox wrote:
It seems to me people are generally missing why there was some doubt in the ref's mind over giving the penalty. It is most likely because Boateng did not hit Tolisso intentionally. Both kicked at the ball, but Tolisso was faster resulting in Boateng hitting him. That way you could argue that Tolisso made Boateng hit him. Add to that that for VAR turnover things have to be very obvious and it does not become such an easy decision anymore.

It doesn't matter that he was trying to play the ball, he got 0% ball and 100% leg and that's a foul. It's one thing to not give that from live play because it's hard to tell with all the players in the box, but with even just one replay from the right perspective, everyone else in the stadium would have given a penalty.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
May 20 2018 14:06 GMT
#5666
No foul.
It was clear that boateng was trying to get the ball. Suddenly a Tolisso's foot came inbetween.
Same in bayern vs arsenal (5:1) game last year, Lewa's foul. about 0:56sec
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
May 20 2018 14:44 GMT
#5667
It is a foul, he tries to kick the ball but instead hits Tolisso. That should be judged a careless foul under FIFA rules.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-20 15:21:19
May 20 2018 15:20 GMT
#5668
Also just shows the stupid media bias again.
This is in no way a VAR error, it clearly is always Zwayers (incorrect) discretion. Add to that, if there was no VAR it would have been the wrong call as well.
But yes, let's call it definite proof that VAR doesn't work.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
HsDLTitich
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Italy830 Posts
May 21 2018 09:02 GMT
#5669
RIP Crotone, goddamn Parma back in Serie A... better I don't say what I think about them. I'm happy about SPAL staying up tho.

Inter qualified to the Champions League thanks to De Vrij gifting them a penalty, De Vrij that was already announced at Inter for next year lmao. Thrilling conclusion for this Serie A after all
I used to organize tournaments for ESL Italy and referee Go4SC2s, WCSs, and IEMs for ESL SC2.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18416 Posts
May 21 2018 09:59 GMT
#5670
Wow I just read that Bayern did not even stay after receiving their medals to congratulate Frankfurt.
What a bunch of sore losers. And then they don't even apologise properly.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
May 21 2018 12:39 GMT
#5671
On May 21 2018 18:59 sharkie wrote:
Wow I just read that Bayern did not even stay after receiving their medals to congratulate Frankfurt.
What a bunch of sore losers. And then they don't even apologise properly.

Rummenigge publicly apologized.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-21 13:02:00
May 21 2018 13:01 GMT
#5672
On May 21 2018 18:02 HsDLTitich wrote:
RIP Crotone, goddamn Parma back in Serie A... better I don't say what I think about them. I'm happy about SPAL staying up tho.

Inter qualified to the Champions League thanks to De Vrij gifting them a penalty, De Vrij that was already announced at Inter for next year lmao. Thrilling conclusion for this Serie A after all


Yeah crazy final sequence to the match yesterday. Still as much as de Vrij giving away the penalty has to be blamed, what on earth was Inzaghi thinking subbing off his topscorer with 15 minutes left to play? Also that has to be one of the dumbest red cards from lulic I've seen in a while.
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2713 Posts
May 21 2018 13:16 GMT
#5673
Good Spain NT squad list. I only miss Javi Martinez, he would be a good sub for Busquets. And maybe Sergi Roberto. Morata didn't deserve to go. But I like the list nevertheless.
HsDLTitich
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Italy830 Posts
May 21 2018 13:53 GMT
#5674
On May 21 2018 22:01 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2018 18:02 HsDLTitich wrote:
RIP Crotone, goddamn Parma back in Serie A... better I don't say what I think about them. I'm happy about SPAL staying up tho.

Inter qualified to the Champions League thanks to De Vrij gifting them a penalty, De Vrij that was already announced at Inter for next year lmao. Thrilling conclusion for this Serie A after all


Yeah crazy final sequence to the match yesterday. Still as much as de Vrij giving away the penalty has to be blamed, what on earth was Inzaghi thinking subbing off his topscorer with 15 minutes left to play? Also that has to be one of the dumbest red cards from lulic I've seen in a while.


Yeah I was half joking, but the loss is entirely on Inzaghi.
I used to organize tournaments for ESL Italy and referee Go4SC2s, WCSs, and IEMs for ESL SC2.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
May 21 2018 14:10 GMT
#5675
This the spain squad btw;
Goalkeepers: David de Gea, Pepe Reina, Kepa Arrizabalaga

Defenders: Dani Carvajal, Alvaro Odriozola, Gerard Piqué, Sergio Ramos, Nacho, Cesar Azpilicueta, Jordi Alba, Nacho Monreal

Midfielders: Sergio Busquets, Saul, Koke, Thiago Alcantara, Andres Iniesta, David Silva

Forwards: Isco, Marco Asensio, Lucas Vazquez, Iago Aspas, Rodrigo, Diego Costa


On spain NT a couple of questions haitike;

Right back slot; Carvajal Odriozola - These are better than Bellerin? Bellerin is fantastic from what i see and one of the reasons sometimes Arsenal can defend, he is also good going forward.

Left back slot; Monreal is better than Alonso? Alonso got into premier league team of season and has scored so much with his left foot from freekicks and his attacking runs. Now he isn't better than Alba i 100% agree there, but surely he should have went?

Iniesta - Isn't he just taking someone else's spot being as old he is?

What is your starting 11 for them? Mine would be;

De Gea
Dave Ramos Pique Alba
Thiago Biscuits Silva
Isco/Asensio - Costa - Aspas
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pretender58
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany713 Posts
May 21 2018 14:53 GMT
#5676
On May 21 2018 23:10 Pandemona wrote:
[...]

What is your starting 11 for them? Mine would be;

De Gea
Dave Ramos Pique Alba
Thiago Biscuits Silva
Isco/Asensio - Costa - Aspas


Your chelsea bias is showing No way azplicueta starts over carvajal

De Gea
Carvajal Ramos Pique Alba
Thiago/Koke Busquets Iniesta
Isco Aspas/Rodrigo D. Silva


Iniesta is surely gonna start in his last tournament, he's still valuable (see Barca this season)
Also, I don't think Costa will play, Lopetegui has preferred Aspas/Rodrigo.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18416 Posts
May 21 2018 14:54 GMT
#5677
Bellerin has been abysmal this season Pande.
You need to watch more Arsenal games :p Monreal can be used on all defenders positions and he is a real fighter. Again, you need to watch more Arsenal games
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2713 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-21 15:50:28
May 21 2018 15:21 GMT
#5678
On May 21 2018 23:10 Pandemona wrote:
This the spain squad btw;
Goalkeepers: David de Gea, Pepe Reina, Kepa Arrizabalaga

Defenders: Dani Carvajal, Alvaro Odriozola, Gerard Piqué, Sergio Ramos, Nacho, Cesar Azpilicueta, Jordi Alba, Nacho Monreal

Midfielders: Sergio Busquets, Saul, Koke, Thiago Alcantara, Andres Iniesta, David Silva

Forwards: Isco, Marco Asensio, Lucas Vazquez, Iago Aspas, Rodrigo, Diego Costa


On spain NT a couple of questions haitike;

Right back slot; Carvajal Odriozola - These are better than Bellerin? Bellerin is fantastic from what i see and one of the reasons sometimes Arsenal can defend, he is also good going forward.

Left back slot; Monreal is better than Alonso? Alonso got into premier league team of season and has scored so much with his left foot from freekicks and his attacking runs. Now he isn't better than Alba i 100% agree there, but surely he should have went?

Iniesta - Isn't he just taking someone else's spot being as old he is?

What is your starting 11 for them? Mine would be;

De Gea
Dave Ramos Pique Alba
Thiago Biscuits Silva
Isco/Asensio - Costa - Aspas


The starting 11 probably will be:

De Gea
Carvajal Ramos Pique Alba
Thiago Busquets Iniesta
Isco - Aspas - Silva

Maybe Koke instead of Thiago, and Costa or Rodrigo instead of Aspas. Some other players like Asensio, Saul and Nacho will have minutes for sure.

Iniesta will be probably in the starting 11 (with some resting in the easiest matches). He played very well last months, and he is still very good if rested enough (I think he was good enough for 1 more season in Barcelona).

About Monreal, we are all surprised in Spain too as nobody expected him. I personally prefer Alonso but Logetegui only called him once before. It seems Lopetegui does not like Alonso too much

My main complain is the lack of a good sub for Busquets, like Javi Martinez. If Busquets can´t play we will have to rely on Saul as DMC.

Lopetegui likes Odriozola too, but in my opinion he lacks experience. I prefer Sergi Roberto to both Bellerin and Odriozola. But I guess Nacho surpassed him as the polyvalent guy.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
May 21 2018 19:00 GMT
#5679
AAhh right ok, see @ everyone else, Alonso is prefered by Spanish people themselves :3

Iniesta starting is very strange for me, i know he is world class but surely he isn't fit enough to play many matches deep at a high level in probably high heat?
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haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2713 Posts
May 21 2018 19:10 GMT
#5680
Iniesta played in the qualifiers for Spain this year and the team played very well with him. He doesn't have to play the whole 90 minutes but he will be in the starting 11 the important matches.
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