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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
February 14 2018 21:55 GMT
#3801
On February 15 2018 06:50 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2018 06:46 imre wrote:
On February 15 2018 06:44 Rebs wrote:
On February 15 2018 06:42 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
On February 15 2018 06:39 imre wrote:
On February 15 2018 06:37 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Now the theory could be that when a league like Ligue 1 is lopsided towards PSG is all the talent they buy wasted as they are never challenged?


Bayern are trashing bundesliga in even more epic proportions since Dortmund decline and are top 3 in CL with Real and Barca these last years.
Imo la Liga is the best training, quite a lot of talented teams and almost everyone is trying to play so lower table sides are relatively easier to beat.
Or you bring Pep and destroy whatever league you're in once the play style is assimilated :D


But they have challenges i.e. Premier League has Man City working on their skills constantly against Liverpool, Man united, Tottenam and so on. La Liga has Barca, Atletico Madrid.

Who do PSG have... nobody. Juve... nobody. Their stagnant as a result.


Napoli is really good. Roma isnt bad either. Though your point is valid.


Bayern is like the counter exemple and last years their league has been easier than Ligue 1 (Monaco last year) and Serie A (Napoli probably being the biggest disappointment of the season in CL)

True Bayern have it easy, there league is a joke but thy accept that, their bosses even say it multiple times a season. But they don't fail as much to the big top sides in Europe much. PSG do xD


It hurts because it is so true.

There is no 2nd best team in Germany. The teams on 2nd-8th place are just all equally bad. Not one of those is close to european top level, or even upper middle class.

Makes it easier to ignore football these days.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 14 2018 21:55 GMT
#3802
On February 15 2018 06:50 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2018 06:46 imre wrote:
On February 15 2018 06:44 Rebs wrote:
On February 15 2018 06:42 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
On February 15 2018 06:39 imre wrote:
On February 15 2018 06:37 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Now the theory could be that when a league like Ligue 1 is lopsided towards PSG is all the talent they buy wasted as they are never challenged?


Bayern are trashing bundesliga in even more epic proportions since Dortmund decline and are top 3 in CL with Real and Barca these last years.
Imo la Liga is the best training, quite a lot of talented teams and almost everyone is trying to play so lower table sides are relatively easier to beat.
Or you bring Pep and destroy whatever league you're in once the play style is assimilated :D


But they have challenges i.e. Premier League has Man City working on their skills constantly against Liverpool, Man united, Tottenam and so on. La Liga has Barca, Atletico Madrid.

Who do PSG have... nobody. Juve... nobody. Their stagnant as a result.


Napoli is really good. Roma isnt bad either. Though your point is valid.


Bayern is like the counter exemple and last years their league has been easier than Ligue 1 (Monaco last year) and Serie A (Napoli probably being the biggest disappointment of the season in CL)

True Bayern have it easy, there league is a joke but thy accept that, their bosses even say it multiple times a season. But they don't fail as much to the big top sides in Europe much. PSG do xD


Just saying that I don't think having an "easy" league is that big of a problem. It should even allow you to be more flexible regarding tactics since you can try stuff during league games once you're ahead enough.
Zest fanboy.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 14 2018 21:58 GMT
#3803
On February 15 2018 06:54 N1E wrote:
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Silva is 33 and lookes 40 on the pitch these days and imo has never been world class but that is my opinion.

Thiago didn't play, possibly he will in Paris. Maybe you confused with Alves (Daniel) who is 34 already. Both were world class and nowadays still good, but you need strenght against 14 man. Perhaps in Paris the PSG president will have some sort of relevance because today his politics were useless and that matters a lot in todays football. Like when Perez bought the spanish league last season.

No i mean in general this season, i know he didn't play tonight, it was a bold but good move imo. I said in HIS career Silva imo is over rated, he hasn't achieved anything to note in worthy domestic leagues or with the Brazil national team. He won Serie A with Milan and instantly jumped ship to this PSG side and had it nice and easy. But this is my opinion and i can kinda understand others calling him very good at least.
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N1E
Profile Blog Joined February 2017
Brazil186 Posts
February 14 2018 22:01 GMT
#3804
On February 15 2018 06:58 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2018 06:54 N1E wrote:
Silva is 33 and lookes 40 on the pitch these days and imo has never been world class but that is my opinion.

Thiago didn't play, possibly he will in Paris. Maybe you confused with Alves (Daniel) who is 34 already. Both were world class and nowadays still good, but you need strenght against 14 man. Perhaps in Paris the PSG president will have some sort of relevance because today his politics were useless and that matters a lot in todays football. Like when Perez bought the spanish league last season.

No i mean in general this season, i know he didn't play tonight, it was a bold but good move imo. I said in HIS career Silva imo is over rated, he hasn't achieved anything to note in worthy domestic leagues or with the Brazil national team. He won Serie A with Milan and instantly jumped ship to this PSG side and had it nice and easy. But this is my opinion and i can kinda understand others calling him very good at least.

He still won more international titles than the English National Team? And carrying that joke David Luiz in his back.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 14 2018 22:07 GMT
#3805
On February 15 2018 07:01 N1E wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2018 06:58 Pandemona wrote:
On February 15 2018 06:54 N1E wrote:
Silva is 33 and lookes 40 on the pitch these days and imo has never been world class but that is my opinion.

Thiago didn't play, possibly he will in Paris. Maybe you confused with Alves (Daniel) who is 34 already. Both were world class and nowadays still good, but you need strenght against 14 man. Perhaps in Paris the PSG president will have some sort of relevance because today his politics were useless and that matters a lot in todays football. Like when Perez bought the spanish league last season.

No i mean in general this season, i know he didn't play tonight, it was a bold but good move imo. I said in HIS career Silva imo is over rated, he hasn't achieved anything to note in worthy domestic leagues or with the Brazil national team. He won Serie A with Milan and instantly jumped ship to this PSG side and had it nice and easy. But this is my opinion and i can kinda understand others calling him very good at least.

He still won more international titles than the English National Team? And carrying that joke David Luiz in his back.

Winning Confed cup is good? xD
Vs Spain who crashed out in group stage
Vs Italy who crashed out in group stage
Vs Meixco? xD

Could also quite easily say he got carried in that too

English National team is the biggest and best team in the world as we prove all the time :D we very exciting to watch, but i was on about Silva being over rated imo not England being amazing
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N1E
Profile Blog Joined February 2017
Brazil186 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-14 22:08:47
February 14 2018 22:08 GMT
#3806
This just sounds like salt. Who’s at fault? The UEFA ref, Madrid for simulating, Madrid for scoring cheap goals late in the match, PSG for fielding an uneven squad, or all of the above?

It's not Madrid's fault for diving, it's the referee for favoring them all the calls even fake ones. Too bad spanish football this season is fixed for Barcelona (because Neymar left) and Madrid resorts to everything given CL is all they have left. As for the late goals, that's also PSG's fault though they were good enough to start leading 1-0 in Madrid.

And what happened with Kurzawa? Thought he was rested in the weekend but then he's not even in the squad today?
N1E
Profile Blog Joined February 2017
Brazil186 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-14 22:13:53
February 14 2018 22:13 GMT
#3807
Winning Confed cup is good? xD

Talk once you win it once, or at least qualify. Or at least reach the finals of your continentals? Or semi finals? Or quarters? lol.

Vs Spain who crashed out in group stage

They were very good until that RVP equalizer. Plus they had the (next two) Copa America champions/squad in the group.
And they did better than you guys in Euro Cup. You guys lost against Iceland, they eliminated Italy.

Vs Italy who crashed out in group stage

They are a relevant team with 4 World Cups. Somehow Ibra-less Sweden did good enough this time and they didn't qualify. But they would if they had a group like Portugal's, England's or such.

Vs Meixco? xD

Lmao, Mexico is still a more relevant National Team than England. They were close to eliminating Netherlands in the World Cup.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 14 2018 22:18 GMT
#3808
England is always the biggest national team in tournaments bro doesn't mean we win though. And come on now Spain lost terribly, i was at the 2014 world cup watching them get schooled by Chile. England by far had the toughest group that tournament as well! We have also been in the quarter finals of world cups more times than Chile xD Mexico is again a team that gets out of there group and dies the next stage. Hardly beating them is good feat now xD

Also you qualified for that competition because you were the HOSTS!

But anyway this was fun but im going to bed now Can continue tomorrow if you want :D
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N1E
Profile Blog Joined February 2017
Brazil186 Posts
February 14 2018 22:22 GMT
#3809
Both Neymar and Mbappe are too arrogant in similar situations

Mbappe is a teen who has achieved nothing yet and benched Draxler and Di Maria by a garbage coach.

Neymar in the other hand gets fouled all the time and the only close free-kicks and even pen given are dives for Madrid.

Asension on the other hand

Asension on the other hand lost the teens euro cup lmao. Lost to LEGOnes lmao (because this season the referees are for Barca, not for them like the previous season).

But yea, PSG clearly lack of team stamina

Team stamina indeed, not only physical.

Veratti looked like he's in a shower with heavy breath

He has been that way for a some time already, I think it's because of that number 6 in his back. Perhaps that's the same Kurzawa's problem.

LaLiga also has Sevilla

(checks wikipedia) not even 1 Champions League in history. Irrelevant.
N1E
Profile Blog Joined February 2017
Brazil186 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-14 22:28:05
February 14 2018 22:23 GMT
#3810
And come on now Spain lost terribly, i was at the 2014 world cup watching them get schooled by Chile.

Spain had to win. They were short on number of goals and stuff. Chile played for the draw and won on counter-attack. Serves Diego Costa well though, and the coach for taking Xavi out.

It all makes a difference. Like Madrid today who dived and always knew they would get all the calls today as usual (happened against Bayern last year). When conditions favor you, it's something totally difference, doesn't mean the Spain team were weak.

Also you qualified for that competition because you were the HOSTS!


So? Brazil also won when Germany and others hosted it.
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2742 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-14 22:59:08
February 14 2018 22:49 GMT
#3811
Never underestimate Madrid in CL.

Real Madrid 7th Champions League - La Liga 4th
Real Madrid 8th Champions League - La Liga 5th
Real Madrid 9th Champions League - La Liga 3rd

Real Madrid is now 4th in La Liga (I think they will end 3rd, they will surpass Valencia).

Edit: I don't understand Emery. He quits Cavanni and Di Maria didn't play a second.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
February 15 2018 02:37 GMT
#3812
On February 15 2018 05:43 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Well...


I don't disagree with his statement though I don't think it's releva in this case. The penalty was given on the basis that the PSG player pulled Kroos. That was a foul, maybe a soft one but I don't see anywhere in the rule book that says it's okay to put your hand on the shoulder of another player when he gets past you. The intention was to stop Kroos and the action was in violation of the rule book so it's a foul. Kroos could have moved on, dived or sang Copacabana for all I care but it wouldn't change fact that it was a foul and a penalty
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18713 Posts
February 15 2018 05:17 GMT
#3813
The only problem with this penalty is that I keep saying the same foul dozens of times in ONE football match and it never gets called for a foul. It is only sometimes a foul when the referee feels like it
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 15 2018 10:25 GMT
#3814
English teams scored 11 goals so far this round, 2 more to come :D
All be it the two teams to play probably won't score to many because not really in there style
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
February 15 2018 11:14 GMT
#3815
On February 15 2018 19:25 Pandemona wrote:
English teams scored 11 goals so far this round, 2 more to come :D
All be it the two teams to play probably won't score to many because not really in there style

Dude we non-native speakers rely on you native speakers to learn. Stop slacking with the spelling.
Off-season = best season
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18713 Posts
February 15 2018 11:39 GMT
#3816
On February 15 2018 20:14 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2018 19:25 Pandemona wrote:
English teams scored 11 goals so far this round, 2 more to come :D
All be it the two teams to play probably won't score to many because not really in there style

Dude we non-native speakers rely on you native speakers to learn. Stop slacking with the spelling.


You do? My first lessons on the internet way back were not to learn from native speakers
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-15 11:49:09
February 15 2018 11:44 GMT
#3817
Yeah especially me, and especially if its an AM post xD
I am no role model in the English language as i speak to much shorthand version and what not, which comes across when i type


Some good teams in action tonight in Europa league, not good matches though but something to watch i guess :D

Well i guess Leipzig vs Napoli should be good if Leipzig turn up, but they haven't turned up much in Europe so far.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 15 2018 11:48 GMT
#3818
Europa League RO32

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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18387 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-15 11:59:31
February 15 2018 11:55 GMT
#3819
On February 15 2018 20:44 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah especially me, and especially if its an AM post xD
I am no role model in the English language as i speak to much shorthand version and what not, which comes across when i type


Some good teams in action tonight in Europa league, not good matches though but something to watch i guess :D

Well i guess Leipzig vs Napoli should be good if Leipzig turn up, but they haven't turned up much in Europe so far.

Shorthand?

All be it is 1 characer and 2 spaces longer than the correct albeit

Ontopic:

Copenhagen - Atleti has the potential for an upset

Other than that:

Spartak Moscow - Athletic Bilbao looks like it could be good.
Lyon - Villareal might be an upset with how shitty Lyon has been lately.

The rest looks like one-sided stomps or tossups between teams I really don't care about at all.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 15 2018 12:05 GMT
#3820
You think Atletico with Greizman in great form and Costa back could lose to Copenhagen? I think Atletico will walk this competition and that might stutter their challenge for La Liga title if they do though in which being 7 points off Barcelona and having to play them, with also Real Madrid playing Barcelona to come as well could have made that fun.
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