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city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-28 17:12:23
January 28 2018 17:09 GMT
#3501
On January 29 2018 02:08 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2018 02:06 city42 wrote:
I don't understand the point of VAR. Sane very nearly had his leg broken by a terrible challenge, and the ref inexplicably gave the Cardiff player a yellow. Protecting players should be an even higher priority for VAR than allowing/disallowing goals.


Wtf are you crying VAR here? How can any technology prevent players doing horrible tackles?

Are you serious? I'm saying that VAR should be able to be used to send a player off for that kind of challenge.

Are you ever able to post without sounding like you're foaming at the mouth?
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
January 28 2018 17:12 GMT
#3502
VAR is absolutely used for tackles like this, it just isn't being tested/used this game
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18772 Posts
January 28 2018 17:14 GMT
#3503
On January 29 2018 02:09 city42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2018 02:08 sharkie wrote:
On January 29 2018 02:06 city42 wrote:
I don't understand the point of VAR. Sane very nearly had his leg broken by a terrible challenge, and the ref inexplicably gave the Cardiff player a yellow. Protecting players should be an even higher priority for VAR than allowing/disallowing goals.


Wtf are you crying VAR here? How can any technology prevent players doing horrible tackles?

Are you serious? I'm saying that VAR should be able to be used to send a player off for that kind of challenge.

Are you ever able to post without sounding like you're foaming at the mouth?


VAR is used for that? What is your point?
You hate on VAR for a horrible tackle on one of your players just because?
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-28 17:17:54
January 28 2018 17:16 GMT
#3504
On January 29 2018 02:12 sneirac wrote:
VAR is absolutely used for tackles like this, it just isn't being tested/used this game

If the ref sees the incident and gives a yellow, are they able to deem the incident a "clear error" and overturn his decision? I'm honestly not sure.

On January 29 2018 02:14 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2018 02:09 city42 wrote:
On January 29 2018 02:08 sharkie wrote:
On January 29 2018 02:06 city42 wrote:
I don't understand the point of VAR. Sane very nearly had his leg broken by a terrible challenge, and the ref inexplicably gave the Cardiff player a yellow. Protecting players should be an even higher priority for VAR than allowing/disallowing goals.


Wtf are you crying VAR here? How can any technology prevent players doing horrible tackles?

Are you serious? I'm saying that VAR should be able to be used to send a player off for that kind of challenge.

Are you ever able to post without sounding like you're foaming at the mouth?


VAR is used for that? What is your point?
You hate on VAR for a horrible tackle on one of your players just because?

I'm not a Man City fan.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-28 17:34:40
January 28 2018 17:19 GMT
#3505
On January 29 2018 02:16 city42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2018 02:12 sneirac wrote:
VAR is absolutely used for tackles like this, it just isn't being tested/used this game

If the ref sees the incident and gives a yellow, are they able to deem the incident a "clear error" and overturn his decision? I'm honestly not sure.

Yes they can, this was a clear red card tackle so VAR could overturn it.
It gets tricky when it comes to judgment calls where it is less clear, but even then VAR can ask referee to review himself and make his own decision in line with rest of his calls.

e: here is an example of VAR usage in a similar situation, a red card that was overturned into yellow

live: https://www.clippituser.tv/c/yrmlag
replays: https://www.clippituser.tv/c/glbnyl
review: https://www.clippituser.tv/c/nweagk

some more VAR: https://streamable.com/l91g6
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-28 17:37:29
January 28 2018 17:34 GMT
#3506
On January 29 2018 02:19 sneirac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2018 02:16 city42 wrote:
On January 29 2018 02:12 sneirac wrote:
VAR is absolutely used for tackles like this, it just isn't being tested/used this game

If the ref sees the incident and gives a yellow, are they able to deem the incident a "clear error" and overturn his decision? I'm honestly not sure.

Yes they can, this was a clear red card tackle so VAR could overturn it.
It gets tricky when it comes to judgment calls where it is less clear, but even then VAR can ask referee to review himself and make his own decision in line with rest of his calls.

Interesting, I must have misunderstood when reading about it. The Guardian article from a couple weeks ago mentioned that VAR focuses on black-and-white mistakes in a few different situations, so I'm surprised that a yellow vs. red judgment call can be deemed a black-and-white mistake.

edit: thanks for the videos, I'm not a Bundesliga watcher so I was going off written articles. I'm pleasantly surprised.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
January 28 2018 17:58 GMT
#3507
Well it all still slightly iffy because so many people were unhappy with implementation so far, however specific to the tackle in this game it just feels like the referee didn't see how bad of a tackle that was and his decision was just focused on it being last man or not.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18772 Posts
January 29 2018 07:13 GMT
#3508
Arsenal actually closing a transfer window being winners? o.o
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 29 2018 08:35 GMT
#3509
Arsenal never closing out any transfer window being winners. People thought Lacazette was a good transfer, look how well that turned out. Guy has like 10 goals in 30plus games and most of those goals were a hatrick vs Bournemouth or something. He has gone 10 hours without a goal etc.
Miki was awful at Yanited people forget this, how is Arsene going to somehow make him godlike again?

Aubemeyang, now lets not get started on all the possibilities of failures he is going to be for £60million.....he wont be able to leave an go party in paris milan wherever as there is no time for "off days" during prem season, it is game after game.

Arsenal will have £110million worth of strikers at the club, plus Giroud who probs would leave i don't know he is injured iirc. I would still bet heavily on them failing to get top 5 let alone top 4.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
January 29 2018 10:18 GMT
#3510
I think Auba deal won't go through as Dortmund needs to find a striker.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 29 2018 13:52 GMT
#3511
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
January 29 2018 14:24 GMT
#3512
On January 29 2018 19:18 Skynx wrote:
I think Auba deal won't go through as Dortmund needs to find a striker.


Kicker, Ruhr Nachrichten, Bild, etc. all confirming it.

Said sources also claim that Batshuayi is going to be loaned to BVB for the rest of the season.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 29 2018 16:19 GMT
#3513
Pep clocking up £210 million this season spend.....just on DEFENDERS alone. I hope they get some clean sheets to back this up!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11449 Posts
January 29 2018 16:20 GMT
#3514
Arsenal can sign all the best strikers in the world, but they won't win the league without a quality DM.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11449 Posts
January 30 2018 00:36 GMT
#3515
Bye Musonda. Apparently an out of form Pedro still deserves more chances from the bench. Oh ya can't fault conte over his youth/rotation policy cuz giving Hudson odoi his debut means he is doing a good job blooding our youths...
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18772 Posts
January 30 2018 05:29 GMT
#3516
haha chelsea want giroud now, one of the players pande has always criticised
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11449 Posts
January 30 2018 06:28 GMT
#3517
On January 30 2018 14:29 sharkie wrote:
haha chelsea want giroud now, one of the players pande has always criticised


Giroud's a quality player and I have no doubt he can link up well with hazard. But his pace, or lack of it.......I mean Phil Jones on his knees was even faster than him rofl
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 30 2018 08:44 GMT
#3518
We don't want Giroud anymore. #FAKE NEWS

We put offer on table to Arsenal £15million, they took to long to respond, by the time they came back and said yes we said the offer is no longer on the table. We are desperate for Llorente, offered Spurs a swap deal and they said no. We are back to square one
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
January 30 2018 09:46 GMT
#3519
On January 30 2018 17:44 Pandemona wrote:
We don't want Giroud anymore. #FAKE NEWS

We put offer on table to Arsenal £15million, they took to long to respond, by the time they came back and said yes we said the offer is no longer on the table. We are desperate for Llorente, offered Spurs a swap deal and they said no. We are back to square one


With a day to go.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 30 2018 11:09 GMT
#3520
Hey this is when Marina shines, she is dashing around the world in her jet, plugging in fax machines everywhere. She got this!

Also the Emerson Palmieri deal has been done for a while but hasn't been put through because we were waiting to see if could make it double deal with Dzeko. That deal is worth £17.6million! Which is fantastic business for a left back who last year was one of (if not the best) player in Roma, he is 23 and great potential, just last day of the season did his ACL and Kolarov has done ok this season so he has lacked bit of a game time. So we finally will have left wing back cover for Alonso.

Just need a striker or imo 2 but i think we will be lucky to get one xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
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