EPT2016 - 2017 Football Thread - Page 96
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On December 01 2016 07:08 Ysellian wrote: Great player with not a lot of great coaching experience though. Sounds very similar to our Blind problem. I mean great player is a bit of a stretch, he was a good player. He basically falls in the Phil Jagielka tier of England defenders, solid premier league staple kinda guy. Not one who you want if your building a great team but someone who will do a job in a mid tier one. He does have spades of leadership experience which is valuable a every level. Not sure what about his career makes people think he was a great player. None of that has much relevance to how good a manager he is though, in my opinion anyway. | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On December 01 2016 07:19 Rebs wrote: I mean great player is a bit of a stretch, he was a good player. He basically falls in the Phil Jagielka tier of England defenders. Not sure what about his career makes people think he was a great player. Honestly I wasn't putting much thought into labeling him as a great player (as a player he was certainly never on the same level as Blind), but his coaching is just meh and not the resume of someone you want being in charge of your country. Similar to what we are having here. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On December 01 2016 07:24 Ysellian wrote: Honestly I wasn't putting much thought into labeling him as a great player (as a player he was certainly never on the same level as Blind), but his coaching is just meh and not the resume of someone you want being in charge of your country. Yeah no I didnt mean you specifically. I guess I shouldnt have quoted. As far as managing goes, I dont know the last few years ive gotten the feeling that resumes are over rated in some cases. Then again England manager is a job you are destined to fail at so dono... | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On December 01 2016 07:27 Rebs wrote: Yeah no I didnt mean you specifically. I guess I shouldnt have quoted. As far as managing goes, I dont know the last few years ive gotten the feeling that resumes are over rated in some cases. Then again England manager is a job you are destined to fail at so dono... Haha yeah especially if you look at United's current state and relatively unknown managers doing really well in Germany. I guess you are right that it won't really matter for England, I can't imagine him doing worse than Hodgson or getting in a bigger scandal than Allerdyce. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
My family in Brazil says "theres a dark atmosphere, like if someone took the fun out of Brazil" | ||
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
this happened and in the second half this was on the stands ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3pxQQl4.jpg) | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
Merci, revenez nous voir Montreal.. On December 01 2016 07:30 Ysellian wrote: Haha yeah especially if you look at United's current state and relatively unknown managers doing really well in Germany. I guess you are right that it won't really matter for England, I can't imagine him doing worse than Hodgson or getting in a bigger scandal than Allerdyce. Those are both very low bars though. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11449 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
On December 01 2016 07:27 Rebs wrote: Yeah no I didnt mean you specifically. I guess I shouldnt have quoted. As far as managing goes, I dont know the last few years ive gotten the feeling that resumes are over rated in some cases. Then again England manager is a job you are destined to fail at so dono... I may be underrating Jagielka but my impression is that Southgate was a much better player. Was always one the best defenders in the premiership even though he never went to a big club. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On December 03 2016 07:37 zulu_nation8 wrote: I may be underrating Jagielka but my impression is that Southgate was a much better player. Was always one the best defenders in the premiership even though he never went to a big club. Yes you probably are, no he really wasnt, maybe if you count leadership qualities. There a reason he left Aston Villa and just ended up going to Middlesborough which was roughly the same level of team. And he was a this peak before the influx of foreigners. When signing foreign defenders became the pervading culture he became irrelevant except for being one of the better players in mid table teams that would win the occasional cup or get a UEFA cup spot. No elite teams wanted a Gareth Southgate and its not like he didnt try, just like no elite teams want a Phil Jagielka or aaaa I dono.. Ryan Shawcross. He was better then they are but he falls in the same tier albiet higher up on it | ||
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BeaTeR
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
Bravo, Stones, Otamendi, Kolarov, Fernandinho, Gundogan, Navas, Sane, Silva, De Bruyne, Aguero Caballero, Zabaleta, Sagna, Clichy, Yaya Toure, Fernando, Iheanacho Courtois, Azpilicueta, David Luiz, Cahill, Moses, Kante, Fabregas, Alonso, Pedro, Diego Costa, Hazard Begovic, Ivanovic, Aina, Chalobah, Oscar, Willian, Batshuayi | ||
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zeo
Serbia6344 Posts
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
 On December 03 2016 22:15 zeo wrote: Yeah, this is not Cahil's day at all How has he been this season? The matches I've watched he always seems to be the weak link in the three man defense. | ||
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zeo
Serbia6344 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
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BeaTeR
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
On December 03 2016 22:15 Ysellian wrote: What a goal from Cahill! Wrong net though How has he been this season? The matches I've watched he always seems to be the weak link in the three man defense. his worst perfomance was in the beginning of the season. He gifted goals left and right. After Conte implemented 3 man defense he played much more reliable | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4203 Posts
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On December 03 2016 22:45 Dante08 wrote: Omg KDB what a miss... Typical football. If you miss your chances you are going to get punished for it. | ||
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zeo
Serbia6344 Posts
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