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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28673 Posts
October 01 2016 22:17 GMT
#1001
If city stops dominating (and they've mostly faced pretty easy opposition so far) I think liverpool is definitely one of the main challengers. they also don't seem to depend much on individual players and should thus be fairly injury resilient.

Imo so far the fight for top 4 looks incredibly tense, but city has been showcasing a higher top level and consistency than the other teams, the second real test comes tomorrow though.
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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
October 02 2016 03:20 GMT
#1002
On October 02 2016 01:04 Pandemona wrote:
Chelsea played 3-4-3 today, looked alot better at the back second half, first half was giving the ball away at the back again. However that wasn't formation issue, i liked what we did. Second half was just one way traffic and some superb goals. Looking good that, however 2 week international break fucks us up now!


Worrying that hazard was anonymous though. Still not liking the attack because we were gifted 2 goals by a crap defence. We needed 2 classy finishes as well. I'd prefer simpler goals because it shows a system worked, rather than moments of brilliance.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
October 02 2016 05:28 GMT
#1003
On October 02 2016 12:20 DucK- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2016 01:04 Pandemona wrote:
Chelsea played 3-4-3 today, looked alot better at the back second half, first half was giving the ball away at the back again. However that wasn't formation issue, i liked what we did. Second half was just one way traffic and some superb goals. Looking good that, however 2 week international break fucks us up now!


Worrying that hazard was anonymous though. Still not liking the attack because we were gifted 2 goals by a crap defence. We needed 2 classy finishes as well. I'd prefer simpler goals because it shows a system worked, rather than moments of brilliance.



That's a good point individual brilliance can often mask the fact that your squad is not upto snuff. Fergie got away with this when RVP carried his last title win for half the season with wonder goal after wonder goal while the team played like ass. That and all the other teams falling apart while United did improve after Christmas. But the aftermath is there for all to see.


Honestly Liverpool looks the only team outside of City that looks deep and solid enough to play well for an entire season. Arsenal would be there to but they are not as injury proof as the other 2 in the depth department.

DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
October 02 2016 05:43 GMT
#1004
On October 02 2016 14:28 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2016 12:20 DucK- wrote:
On October 02 2016 01:04 Pandemona wrote:
Chelsea played 3-4-3 today, looked alot better at the back second half, first half was giving the ball away at the back again. However that wasn't formation issue, i liked what we did. Second half was just one way traffic and some superb goals. Looking good that, however 2 week international break fucks us up now!


Worrying that hazard was anonymous though. Still not liking the attack because we were gifted 2 goals by a crap defence. We needed 2 classy finishes as well. I'd prefer simpler goals because it shows a system worked, rather than moments of brilliance.



That's a good point individual brilliance can often mask the fact that your squad is not upto snuff. Fergie got away with this when RVP carried his last title win for half the season with wonder goal after wonder goal while the team played like ass. That and all the other teams falling apart while United did improve after Christmas. But the aftermath is there for all to see.


Honestly Liverpool looks the only team outside of City that looks deep and solid enough to play well for an entire season. Arsenal would be there to but they are not as injury proof as the other 2 in the depth department.



Yea I have been saying this for Chelsea for 2-3 seasons already. They have no system to attack. Hazard/willian/pedro with ball on the wings, and they pass backwards or to fab/Oscar outside the box. Dave/iva in good positions to cross, and there's only 1 Diego in the box waiting. All this is fine if you know how to pass and open up defences like arsenal or barca, but Chelsea sucks at it.

In mourinho 1.0 Chelsea, our system was simply to brute force our way to goals. We dominated midfield, drogba overpowered defences. Waves after waves of pressure/crosses into eventual goals. We also have players that dare to shoot from outside the box. Chelsea now just wanna pass the ball into the net, but our players just don't suit it.

Yesterday's offence though was encouraging as compared to the past few games. Not sure if its the new formation. Just hope hazard adapts well to it.
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2713 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-02 11:58:53
October 02 2016 11:35 GMT
#1005
Ok, Diego Alves is just crazy. I don't understand how Brazil NT doesn't call him.

He has saved two penalti kicks against Atlético today. His record saving penaltis is 19/37. More than 50%. He is the goalkeeper that more penalti kicks has saved in all the history of La Liga already.

Edit: the first of the two saves: https://streamable.com/70jv
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 02 2016 12:04 GMT
#1006
Utd playing well but no goal, Pogba should've had one, his non-distance shooting is surprisingly poor.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8657 Posts
October 02 2016 12:29 GMT
#1007
LOL bailly
that was comedy
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4553 Posts
October 02 2016 12:40 GMT
#1008
And its 1-1...
Mute user function on TL; http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/491245-mute-annoying-users-in-lr-threads
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
October 02 2016 12:46 GMT
#1009
What a stupid goal to concede for United
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8657 Posts
October 02 2016 12:53 GMT
#1010
i hate this game
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28673 Posts
October 02 2016 13:00 GMT
#1011
first stoke point on old trafford in 36 years lol. to be fair united definitely deserved the win, but finishing is a pretty essential footballing quality.

nice goal by martial, rooney so bad though. and de gea (for the first time ever?) loses them rather than wins them points.
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18004 Posts
October 02 2016 13:06 GMT
#1012
Well, Ajax almost fucked that up, but managed to win one of the matches they often have trouble with. Good to see they are keeping it together and the team is starting to gel a bit more. Not there yet, but I have good hope, which I really didn't at the season start.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28673 Posts
October 02 2016 13:21 GMT
#1013
feyenoord looks pretty damn dominant so far? 8-0-0 22-2 from first 8 matches. No stats, but I'm inclined to think that teams going 8-0-0 and not winning the league is a pretty rare phenomenon.
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BeaTeR
Profile Joined March 2003
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
October 02 2016 13:25 GMT
#1014
ahahah kolarov
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18004 Posts
October 02 2016 13:28 GMT
#1015
On October 02 2016 22:21 Liquid`Drone wrote:
feyenoord looks pretty damn dominant so far? 8-0-0 22-2 from first 8 matches. No stats, but I'm inclined to think that teams going 8-0-0 and not winning the league is a pretty rare phenomenon.

Agreed. Feyenoord is the team to beat this season. Quite surprisingly. Both Ajax and PSV have, on paper, a deeper roster, but Feyenoord is looking very good, and also their substitutes are performing. Still, in the last few seasons they have often collapsed quite seriously after the winter break.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
October 02 2016 13:38 GMT
#1016
where's de bruyne anyway
ffxiv enjoyer
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28673 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-02 13:42:55
October 02 2016 13:41 GMT
#1017
injured (they're saying for about 3 weeks)
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BeaTeR
Profile Joined March 2003
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
October 02 2016 14:02 GMT
#1018
what a perfomance by spurs this 45 mins.
MCity can't handle it
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
October 02 2016 14:05 GMT
#1019
Yeah the intensity level and the pressing from Spurs was a cut above for the first half. Dropped a bit when they started to tire but on an individual level (Walker is eating Sterling alive and on the other side Navas is just bad) and as a team they have totally outplayed City
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18413 Posts
October 02 2016 14:08 GMT
#1020
City must have a dejavu from last season heh
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