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Acrofales
Spain18487 Posts
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On December 08 2016 07:50 nayumi wrote: I'm fairly certain that Arsenal will get matched up with either Real or Bayern The Arsenal way of life. Finish first in the group and still get matched up with a very strong opponent. | ||
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lprk
Poland2249 Posts
Arsenal vs Real and Barcelona vs Bayern have pretty high chance of happening, the most likely matchups are Atletico-City and Dortmund-Sevilla. | ||
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
Since you play the second game away, if it goes to extra time, you get 30 more minutes when your goals have double value. Let's remember that this is not a fringe situation, CL games going to extra time and series decided on away goals happens all the time. | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
But the counter argument is obviously: Winning the group means you get potentially 30 more home minutes  And most teams believe in home advantage. | ||
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
https://epub.ub.uni-muenchen.de/11483/1/tr080.pdf | ||
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lprk
Poland2249 Posts
On December 08 2016 17:39 Mafe wrote: Did Leicester even try? If I was a fan of copenhagen, I would be very upset. They were guaranteed first in the group also they are 2 points above relegation zone and they play Manchester City (who will have one more day of rest) on staurday, to be honest it would be more surprising if they tried. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6326 Posts
On December 08 2016 03:13 Pandemona wrote: The Ronaldo fraud was all about his image rights though, nothing to do with his playing wages? He supposedly has been putting all his money from advertisements and such in tax havens and what not. I love how this is only happening in Spain btw, i mean like why is Spain the only country to do this, im sure in England it is 10000x as worst as instead of 2 clubs paying high wages it is 20 xD I thought Gianni was gonna be a good FIFA President, but so far he has been caught in his own money issues already, claiming money when he shouldn't on expenses? Now he thinks its a great idea to have 16 groups of 3 teams in which 2 go out....i mean England's pretty boned or we will get groups of Germany/New Zealand/Jamaica or something silly. Where all group is one clear favourite. I know for a fact some players who do the same thing as Ronaldo. All not in / from Spain. So yeh it probably happens everywhere. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On December 08 2016 18:04 lprk wrote: They were guaranteed first in the group also they are 2 points above relegation zone and they play Manchester City (who will have one more day of rest) on staurday, to be honest it would be more surprising if they tried. Yeah this was what i was going say but also add they are in terrible form right now. Even if they rested/changed the team you could argue its Ranieri actually trying and they have absolutely no confidence and this happened. Still they topped the group no matter what and are a seeded team for Monday. | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On December 08 2016 18:02 Mafe wrote: To spoil the fun of the discussion, here is a scientific paper about exactly this question, specifically adressing the champions league: https://epub.ub.uni-muenchen.de/11483/1/tr080.pdf Figured as much. I think the advantage of the extra 30 minutes at home is negated by the away goal rule (It may actually be mentioned in the research, forgive me here). | ||
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WillyWanker
France1915 Posts
On December 08 2016 14:49 lprk wrote: Here are the odds that take into account draw rules: Arsenal vs Real and Barcelona vs Bayern have pretty high chance of happening, the most likely matchups are Atletico-City and Dortmund-Sevilla. Come on, CL draws don't work like that. First, we have to have repeat matchups from previous years. Then we have to have at least 2 "bad" matchups so that we can have another "bad" matchup in the quarters. So here's the draw we're going to have on Monday: Arsenal vs Bayern Barcelona vs PSG Leicester vs Real Napoli vs Leverkussen Monaco vs Benfica Juventus vs Manchester City Atletico vs Porto Dortmund vs Sevilla | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On December 08 2016 20:31 Ysellian wrote: Figured as much. I think the advantage of the extra 30 minutes at home is negated by the away goal rule (It may actually be mentioned in the research, forgive me here). Yeah but at the end of the day unless there is some clear benefit to coming second in terms of what matchups you get (which usually isnt the case) you would much rather come first and get higher odds of matching up against a weaker team. Under normal circumstances that is the case. The fact that Real and Bayern finished second in their groups is an anomaly you cant really account for. | ||
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haitike
Spain2744 Posts
Football these days... | ||
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
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TerransHill
Germany572 Posts
On December 08 2016 22:56 WillyWanker wrote: Come on, CL draws don't work like that. First, we have to have repeat matchups from previous years. Then we have to have at least 2 "bad" matchups so that we can have another "bad" matchup in the quarters. So here's the draw we're going to have on Monday: Arsenal vs Bayern Barcelona vs PSG Leicester vs Real Napoli vs Leverkussen Monaco vs Benfica Juventus vs Manchester City Atletico vs Porto Dortmund vs Sevilla This is what I drew: ( https://inker.github.io/cl-draw/?mode=last16 ) Real Madrid v Arsenal Sevilla v Borussia Dortmund Benfica v AS Monaco Bayer Leverkusen v Leicester City FC Porto v Atlético Madrid Bayern München v Juventus Paris Saint-Germain v FC Barcelona Manchester City v Napoli | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On December 10 2016 00:00 TerransHill wrote: \This is what I drew: ( https://inker.github.io/cl-draw/?mode=last16 ) Real Madrid v Arsenal Sevilla v Borussia Dortmund Benfica v AS Monaco Bayer Leverkusen v Leicester City FC Porto v Atlético Madrid Bayern München v Juventus Paris Saint-Germain v FC Barcelona Manchester City v Napoli lol.. Benfica v Leicester City Paris Saint-Germain v Juventus Manchester City v Napoli Bayer Leverkusen v Atlético Madrid Bayern München v FC Barcelona Sevilla v AS Monaco FC Porto v Borussia Dortmund Real Madrid v Arsenal | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Sevilla v Napoli Bayer Leverkusen v Atlético Madrid Paris Saint-Germain v Leicester City Manchester City v Juventus Benfica v FC Barcelona FC Porto v Borussia Dortmund Real Madrid v Arsenal Bayern München v AS Monaco | ||
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Dingodile
4139 Posts
Paris Saint-Germain v Leicester City FC Porto v Arsenal Manchester City v Napoli Real Madrid v AS Monaco Bayer Leverkusen v Atlético Madrid Sevilla v Borussia Dortmund Benfica v FC Barcelona only german teams have exciting opponents... 2nd try so much much better + Show Spoiler + Real Madrid v Arsenal Bayer Leverkusen v Juventus Paris Saint-Germain v FC Barcelona Manchester City v Atlético Madrid Benfica v AS Monaco FC Porto v Napoli Bayern München v Leicester City Sevilla v Borussia Dortmund | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
![[image loading]](http://puu.sh/sJNOl/54c04be729.png) Outside of Bayern vs Barca this is why i can't draw champs league xD | ||
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