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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-05 22:57:00
November 05 2017 22:56 GMT
#1461
On November 06 2017 06:50 JimmiC wrote:
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On November 06 2017 06:14 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Even when Woodley was getting shit after his Thompson II or Maia fight, he said in an interview something along the lines of:

A fans perspective of a fun fight is when they're standing there just alternating hitting each other in the head, that they are bloodied, look like they're on the verge of death, they keep alternating who is on the verge of getting knocked out until one does.

Then he said that as a fighter this doesn't make sense, you want to minimize damage, that's what a masterful display of MMA is.

So even from how he talks, it goes to show he doesn't care about what his fans think of his fights, he's in it to win, get a long win streak going, etc. I think GSP was much like that in his career, except more humble, but same thing, people only thought it was okay after he defended his belt numerous times. Maybe once Woodley has 6-8 title defenses, people will start looking at him differently. I personally would be a decent fan of him if it wasn't for him bringing up racism the way he does.


Perhaps. But GSP always mixed up his game. I don't think he had a fight where he didn't at least punish the guy with ground and pound. He may have rode them for 5 rounds if they didn't have the wrestling to keep up with him but he was active not just backing up the whole fight. Even fitch did more in fights. And GSP most boring fights were ones he dominated. Woodley's super boring fights he is eeking out super close decisions.

But like you say if he gets up into record breaking territory maybe. But DJ has, and has been a much more exciting fighter than woodley and people don't care about him. At least hardcore fans love DJ I'm not sure where Woodley will get his fan base with a unexciting style and he's pretty whiney in interviews which really doesn't endear him with fans.


i believe gsp landed 0 ground strikes against koscheck on the ground
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-05 23:28:21
November 05 2017 23:27 GMT
#1462
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ReaVeR.mma
Profile Joined September 2017
8 Posts
November 10 2017 00:20 GMT
#1463
Woodley will never have the same legacy as GSP. His style is too safe and doesnt draw attention, eyes will always be on the rest of the division. Ive never watched a Woodley fight in anticipation to see him perform.

GSP in the latter stages of his Welterweight reign was criticized for grinding out victories but in comparison Woodley has made GSP look even more technically diverse, cerebral and a finisher.

GSP is atleast able to attack while playing the safe game.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-10 01:59:44
November 10 2017 01:50 GMT
#1464
On November 06 2017 08:27 JimmiC wrote:
woodley is his last 15 rounds has thrown 150, and you couldn't tell any of his opponents were in fights.

looks like Thompson was in a fight. and it won fight of the night.
in the maia fight if his labrum is torn he can't throw a right.... so it remains to be determined whether the boring Maia fight was in his control.

he has had a couple of boring "no hitters" ... so have others in the division.
Lawler fight was a 2 minute KO.
Kim fight was a 1 minute KO.

On November 05 2017 21:42 JimmiC wrote: boring as hell.

so ya, "boring as hell" is offbase.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 10 2017 03:04 GMT
#1465
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Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
November 10 2017 10:39 GMT
#1466
People call Thompson boring now after his last 3 fights. I dont think Woodley is boring either, he just had some tough mu's in Maia and Thompson. He is alot like old GSP in that he sticks to a gameplan that has the highest percentage to win the fight.

On another note, I think I'm the only one who thinks GSP didnt look impressive at all. Couldnt keep Bisping down in fact he was losing on the ground on top of him and Bisping isnt exactly known to be great of his back. He was also gassing really hard.
I think he knows this and is looking for the big payday fight with Woodley next. After losing prob some Anderson fight and then he is done with it.
mcpon14
Profile Joined November 2017
14 Posts
November 27 2017 07:28 GMT
#1467
On November 10 2017 19:39 Kenpark wrote:
People call Thompson boring now after his last 3 fights. I dont think Woodley is boring either, he just had some tough mu's in Maia and Thompson. He is alot like old GSP in that he sticks to a gameplan that has the highest percentage to win the fight.

On another note, I think I'm the only one who thinks GSP didnt look impressive at all. Couldnt keep Bisping down in fact he was losing on the ground on top of him and Bisping isnt exactly known to be great of his back. He was also gassing really hard.
I think he knows this and is looking for the big payday fight with Woodley next. After losing prob some Anderson fight and then he is done with it.


GSP got rocked by a Bisping elbow when he took him down, lol, and stay rocked for the rest of the fight. And GSP is going to fight Whittaker next, per his contract.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 29 2017 13:37 GMT
#1468
On November 27 2017 16:28 mcpon14 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2017 19:39 Kenpark wrote:
People call Thompson boring now after his last 3 fights. I dont think Woodley is boring either, he just had some tough mu's in Maia and Thompson. He is alot like old GSP in that he sticks to a gameplan that has the highest percentage to win the fight.

On another note, I think I'm the only one who thinks GSP didnt look impressive at all. Couldnt keep Bisping down in fact he was losing on the ground on top of him and Bisping isnt exactly known to be great of his back. He was also gassing really hard.
I think he knows this and is looking for the big payday fight with Woodley next. After losing prob some Anderson fight and then he is done with it.


GSP got rocked by a Bisping elbow when he took him down, lol, and stay rocked for the rest of the fight. And GSP is going to fight Whittaker next, per his contract.


Personally I'd much rather have him vacate and move down to WW. Let Whittaker fight Rockhold for the belt, with how long Whittaker didn't fight for, most don't even feel like he's the real #1 right now... So if GSP won, people would just ask GSP to fight Romero or Luke next. If I'm the champ, I want to be fighting the clear #1.

That's why imo Woodley is completely right in looking for another fight. Thompson, Covington, RdA, and Robbie Lawler imo don't deserve a set in stone title shot. The only reason Woodley should fight one is if he's really adamant about defending right away. Winner of Thompson vs Darren Till fights winner of Colby vs RdA/Lawler for belt. In the meantime have Woodley have a fun fight against GSP/Nate/Rockhold.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-29 19:42:34
November 29 2017 15:38 GMT
#1469
i agree with the perspective provided in the post above. i'd like to add to it.

Woodley has revealed he has a torn labrum in his right shoulder. its a judgement call on his part whether or not he chooses to keep fighting with it or get the serious operation required to fix it.

Andrew Luck had a torn labrum and chose to get cortisone shots and eat pain killers for a year before finally getting the surgery. For some people "fighting through the pain" is not an option.. it depends on the way the Labrum is torn. It depends how much Woodley has lost in his shoulder mobility whether or not he can do what Luck did.

So Woodley does have a "i have a torn labrum and i'm getting surgery now" card he can also play. Chances are when he does this the UFC will create an interim WW belt.

Once the labrum in your shoulder is torn and it does not heal itself in a few months surgery has to happen. Sooner or later Woodley must have the surgery. THe danger is a further deeper tear when doing any kind of throwing motion. He could tear his labrum completely apart throwing an overhand punch.

Its pretty impressive that Woodley was able to beat Damian Maia with a torn labrum.
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mcpon14
Profile Joined November 2017
14 Posts
November 30 2017 03:23 GMT
#1470
I agree that GSP should move down to Welterweight but he said in the past that he didn't want to move up and fight Anderson Silva, when Silva was on his undefeated UFC streak, is because it would cause him problems if he moved back down in weight and cited Roy Jones Jr. as an example of what he was talking about. If GSP does move down, I'd like to see Gastelum vs Whitaker.

Did anybody read about Conor getting into a bar scuffle?
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 30 2017 03:30 GMT
#1471
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mcpon14
Profile Joined November 2017
14 Posts
November 30 2017 05:16 GMT
#1472
I still want to see GSP fight Silva, even with Silva's PED usage history, lol.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
December 01 2017 04:43 GMT
#1473
as we all know, no one ever lies about their age, ever. LOL.

https://www.mmafighting.com/2017/11/30/16721966/alistair-overeem-questions-francis-ngannous-age-wants-to-see-birth-certificate
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 01 2017 05:54 GMT
#1474
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mcpon14
Profile Joined November 2017
14 Posts
December 01 2017 11:34 GMT
#1475
Francis Ngannou has the world record for having the hardest punch but the previous record holder is a MMA light heavyweight, lol.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-01 16:15:40
December 01 2017 16:15 GMT
#1476
i think its the hardest punch out of all fighters that have gone to that UFC Performance Center and been tested. Not all fighters have had their punching power tested which is why a light heavyweight held the "record".
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NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3136 Posts
December 03 2017 02:34 GMT
#1477
Fucking ay what a fight that was.Yancy Medeiros vs Alex Oliveira might just be fight of the year. Loving this card so far.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 03 2017 02:38 GMT
#1478
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 03 2017 04:50 GMT
#1479
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
December 03 2017 04:51 GMT
#1480
cejudo with no winners interview lmao
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