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JimmiC
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redlightdistrict
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On February 10 2020 14:37 JimmiC wrote: Yes UFC is a business this is why they incentive winning by handing out performance of the night bonuses. The logic behind your presumption is false. Mayweather was not popular because of decisioning dudes. Hw was popular in spite of it. On top of that, none of his fights were even remotely close. His KO rate dropped on two counts, he was fighting much better fighters and he kept breaking his had. It is near impossible to KO someone with a broken hand. And when he faught lesser opponents he KO'd them (see McGreggor). That jon jones was.more popular when he was finishing people should alone tell you how backwards you have this. I get you feel the need to make hot takes but can you at least do some basic research and understand at least the basics of your theory. It is both funny and sad how many ways this is wrong. Please just stop. McGregor had 30 pounds on Floyd and was 15 years younger but Floyd still had McGregor in a position to be knocked out if the ref didnt stop the fight. Floyd switched styles because being defensive made him more $, not because he got tired of knocking dudes out. Compare and contrast how much Floyd purses were when he was a Knockout artist to when he was a defensive guru. It was a deliberate marketing strategy to brand Floyd as a runner who was going to get caught by a KO artist artist. Wilder is knockout artist, but his fights average less PPV and makes siqigifinately less $$ than any Mayweather/Mcgreggor/Jones/Khaib fight even though he is a undefeated undisputed champion and has Bob Arum advertising the hell out of him. Discounting everything I say as a hot take doesnt make you "woke" (aware of and actively attentive to important facts), it makes you dishonestly obnoxious | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9998 Posts
I'm not sure about that (I don't know the facts though). | ||
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redlightdistrict
382 Posts
On February 10 2020 15:57 Jockmcplop wrote: Wait Wilder makes less than Jones? I'm not sure about that (I don't know the facts though). Bob Arum and Top Rank holds majority rights to Wilder's promotion and merchandising. According to the Nevada State Commission, via Yahoo's Kevin Iole, Wilder's purse for Saturday night's fight is $3 million while Ortiz will earn a $1.5 million payday for his upcoming work in the Fox PPV main event 3 mil for a Boxing World Championship Heavyweight fight is peanuts. After Arum, the boxing commision, Top rank promotions, and taxes, Wilder is making more like 1.3-1.5 million | ||
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JimmiC
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JimmiC
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JimmyJRaynor
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THis is how you draw money... EDIT : UFC just privated this "free fight". Probably because UFC 246 is over. SO here is a less clear version. lol, can we get 10 different angles and 20 instant replays of that guys? it looks like Jessica Eye is having a seizure. Before the fight had Shevchenko said "if i don't kill her ... it don't count"... she'd be 100X more popular than she is now. | ||
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JimmiC
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JimmyJRaynor
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On February 11 2020 02:17 JimmiC wrote: Here big issue is there is no depth in the division i gather you mean "her big issue is..." ? i saw that Dion Waiters ninja spelling correction  | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On February 10 2020 09:45 JimmiC wrote: You guys do realize that it is not Dana White who even chooses who the judges are let alone controls who they pick to win. That is done by the states athletic commission. This is why there was all this talk about it being in Texas, because they have some of the worst judging in all of MMA. Yes, and it provides a convenient out for the UFC to go and be appalled by decisions they agree with, The state AC's arent going to change, the UFC has established itself enough now to make some common sense changes to the judging or make suggestion(force) AC's to do what they want or take their business elsewhere. But they dont want that because if the decisions no matter how shit work for them promotion ally they dont have to care. If you as the fight runner cant maintain the integrity of your sport then who else will ? | ||
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JimmiC
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UsedEgg3
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I doubt there's any kind of fix or anything, just trash judges that the UFC and the rest of us have to live with from time to time. The whole world knows Jones lost, and GGG got hosed against Canelo, among countless other times shit like this has happened across the combat sports. | ||
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Rebs
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Lysteria
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On February 11 2020 15:27 UsedEgg3 wrote: It ended up being another shit decision too, the Andrea girl pretty clearly did more damage but lost (presumably?) because Lauren had two takedowns where she did nothing. Nah the decision itself was fine, it was a really close fight, could have gone both ways, and the 28-29 / 29-28 reflects that. But that one judge Rogan was talking about scored it a 30-27, which is just insane too. I know it's not easy to score a fight where both fighters are blocking punches with their faces but come on. | ||
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JimmiC
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Lysteria
France2280 Posts
On February 12 2020 01:11 JimmiC wrote: Getting all the states working under the unified rules is taking a lot longer than what they expected at first. As long as events are going to happen in those states, they have no incentive to change anything honestly. I can understand that they aren't perfect, like Joe Rogan said, it's a bandaid on a broken system not made for MMA, but still better than the previous ones. And I agree that White and the UFC are eager to have new faces as champions, Reyes being one of them probably. Just take a look at Ngannou for example, he got pushed hard to his first title match. His competition was pretty good on the way but the timing between the matches, maybe a bit too fast, not everyone is a genius like Jones or Holloway. A good example is Darren Till, it took him 2 fights to go from like, rank 15 or unranked to #1 contender. Meanwhile so many fighters are stuck in the rankings because of super fights - hello heavyweight division. I think Dana White is a bit unsure between wanting to have a new star to promote and making a lot of money with his top dogs. At least most of the current champions seem to want to go through their divisions and give opportunities to rightful challengers. About the judges, I was pretty sure they had like a dozen for an event, splitting the fights between them, but you make me doubt now! | ||
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Sermokala
United States14203 Posts
Someone please tell me I'm being trolled with this. | ||
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JimmiC
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Lysteria
France2280 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I had Hooker 3-2 but I can definitely see the 3-2 Felder no problem. Round 1 for Hooker and Round 4 for Felder for sure. Felder used the second round to finally get a grasp on his range via low kicks, so he had more strikes even though not really damaging, so I had Hooker with this one. Felder with the third one, didn't connect much in the first half but the second half with the range on the face won this for me. And then fifth was super close, could have gone both ways. Should I watch the prelims? | ||
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JimmiC
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