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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-04 22:14:07
June 04 2016 22:13 GMT
#7741
Who is Eric Bailly wtf? 40M Euros for a non-British defender who's played one full season of La Liga.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51462 Posts
June 05 2016 00:50 GMT
#7742
one of the best young african defenders out there.

in my opinion way better than john stones (or any young british defender out there), and they don't have to pay a grossly inflated amount for bailly.
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lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
June 05 2016 04:12 GMT
#7743
It really isn't hard to be better young defender than Stones, he would have hard time staying even for Aston Villa.
40 millions for average defender like Bailly is grossly inflated.
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
June 06 2016 07:38 GMT
#7744
The FA have been looking at ways they can clone Jamie Vardy so we can see how he would get on at Arsenal without ripping Leicester City to shreds.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
June 06 2016 11:31 GMT
#7745
Denis Suarez will re join Barcelona this summer! Barca been wanting to resign their former academy product and will finally seal the deal soon.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
June 06 2016 12:44 GMT
#7746
On June 06 2016 20:31 Pandemona wrote:
Denis Suarez will re join Barcelona this summer! Barca been wanting to resign their former academy product and will finally seal the deal soon.

I don't get why though... The midfield now: Busquets, Mascherano (DM), Iniesta, Rakitic, Turan, Rafinha, S. Roberto, D. Suarez (AM). Roberto might be playing more games as a RB, but still that's too many players for just 2 spots... Imo, we should focus on signing a right back and 1 or 2 forwards (low-key, cheaper type). We don't need a CB or another midfielder...
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2713 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-06 13:08:17
June 06 2016 13:07 GMT
#7747
On June 06 2016 21:44 WillyWanker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2016 20:31 Pandemona wrote:
Denis Suarez will re join Barcelona this summer! Barca been wanting to resign their former academy product and will finally seal the deal soon.

I don't get why though... The midfield now: Busquets, Mascherano (DM), Iniesta, Rakitic, Turan, Rafinha, S. Roberto, D. Suarez (AM). Roberto might be playing more games as a RB, but still that's too many players for just 2 spots... Imo, we should focus on signing a right back and 1 or 2 forwards (low-key, cheaper type). We don't need a CB or another midfielder...


Mascherano never plays as DM and he wants to leave this summer. Turan looked useless last season so they maybe think he will not work for Barcelona. Rafinha had a 8 month injury and he never proved to be Barcelona level regularly.

They get Dennis Suarez very cheap anyway because the buy-back contract.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-06 13:12:44
June 06 2016 13:12 GMT
#7748
Ter Stegen
RB - Pique - CB - Alba
Busquets
Iniesta (32) - Rakitic
Messi - Suarez - Neymar (? does he stay)

I mean barca need 2 starters and possibly a couple of cm's to rotate heavily with Iniesta now he getting older. Neymar also supposedly could leave due to Barca needing the funds and the player doesn't seem to mind leaving.
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WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-06 13:21:02
June 06 2016 13:17 GMT
#7749
On June 06 2016 22:07 haitike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2016 21:44 WillyWanker wrote:
On June 06 2016 20:31 Pandemona wrote:
Denis Suarez will re join Barcelona this summer! Barca been wanting to resign their former academy product and will finally seal the deal soon.

I don't get why though... The midfield now: Busquets, Mascherano (DM), Iniesta, Rakitic, Turan, Rafinha, S. Roberto, D. Suarez (AM). Roberto might be playing more games as a RB, but still that's too many players for just 2 spots... Imo, we should focus on signing a right back and 1 or 2 forwards (low-key, cheaper type). We don't need a CB or another midfielder...


Mascherano never plays as DM and he wants to leave this summer. Turan looked useless last season so they maybe think he will not work for Barcelona. Rafinha had a 8 month injury and he never proved to be Barcelona level regularly.

They get Dennis Suarez very cheap anyway because the buy-back contract.

My point was more that I hope they're planning on selling him for more than the clause because I don't see him playing much next season in Barça... I listed Mascherano there because technically he can play DM, but it's true that we saw more often Roberto than Mascherano in that position this year. I hope they won't give up on Arda yet, the guy couldn't play until January, there was no way he could adapt so quickly. Actually, the 2 that joined last summer (him & Vidal) haven't performed at all. Finally, Rafinha has potential, I think even more than his brother, I think he can play a lot more games next season.

On June 06 2016 22:12 Pandemona wrote:
Ter Stegen
RB - Pique - CB - Alba
Busquets
Iniesta (32) - Rakitic
Messi - Suarez - Neymar (? does he stay)

I mean barca need 2 starters and possibly a couple of cm's to rotate heavily with Iniesta now he getting older. Neymar also supposedly could leave due to Barca needing the funds and the player doesn't seem to mind leaving.


Unless Mascherano leaves, they don't need another CB. Piqué, Mascherano are top CB, and Mathieu + Vermaelen aren't bad and aren't complaining on the bench. The team needs a top RB, maybe a more physical midfielder type Keita, and 1 guy a bit better than Munir to play 20% of the games when MSN rest (Copa and end of season games I guess xD).
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8661 Posts
June 06 2016 13:19 GMT
#7750
there is absolutely no way neymar leaves barcelona. i dont believe barca needs the money (source pls. seriously....its barca) and neymar isnt going to find anything msn level anywhere else so why would he leave? he dominates his position, hes part of the strongest strike force in the current game and theyre always contending for trophies
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
June 06 2016 13:32 GMT
#7751
Source 1 - ESPN
Source 2 - Daily Mail
Source 3 - The Sun
Source 4 - Sports Skeeda
Ok i don't know who the last one is but that was just a quick search and top 4 results. Barca in financial issues has been alot of headlines in the past they are struggling to keep up their huge wage bill cuz of their big players. Neymar also has been quoted as saying he was open to working with Pep and Man Utd are big club etcetc.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 06 2016 13:40 GMT
#7752
Leipzig bought Embolo who is one of my favorite FM wonderkids. Can definitely see them finishing in a Europe spot next year. They may be a plastic club but whoever runs them does a great job in comparison to QPR of a few years ago for example.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-06 14:13:50
June 06 2016 14:12 GMT
#7753
I mean, they dont "need" the money but top football teams live with huge debts all the time.

Real Madrid and Barcelona are the ones with the highest debts, around 600m+ each, and supposedly getting bigger, but theres Juventus, Inter, Atletico, and others too.

honestly, that should not be allowed, and its unfair. I mean, at least put a maximun debt to compete in european tournaments or something.
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
June 06 2016 14:15 GMT
#7754
Think that was the idea behind FFP but that didn't work out so well did it xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-06 14:34:21
June 06 2016 14:34 GMT
#7755
On June 06 2016 23:15 Pandemona wrote:
Think that was the idea behind FFP but that didn't work out so well did it xD


FFP doesnt give a shit about overall debt though. It is more involved with ensuring that clubs dont engage in behavior that is irresponsibly increasing their debt on a yearly basis

Which in theory sounds fine, but is pretty useless.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
June 06 2016 14:55 GMT
#7756
Yeah so Real and Barca debt is half a billion but due to their revenues are substantionally more than that debt figure they pass the FFP rules fine which is silly. As technically Barca and Real are 1 bad season away (in terms of Revenue) from being crippled right? But Real will never have trouble due to its links with the Spanish royal family right? And Barcelona have similar sort of thing with their side? Or is it just Real who would get bailed out
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-06 15:02:41
June 06 2016 15:02 GMT
#7757
I dont know, either way some clubs are to big to fail and those 2 are among them for better or worse.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6220 Posts
June 06 2016 19:08 GMT
#7758
On June 06 2016 23:55 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah so Real and Barca debt is half a billion but due to their revenues are substantionally more than that debt figure they pass the FFP rules fine which is silly. As technically Barca and Real are 1 bad season away (in terms of Revenue) from being crippled right? But Real will never have trouble due to its links with the Spanish royal family right? And Barcelona have similar sort of thing with their side? Or is it just Real who would get bailed out

People are way too hung up on debt. As long as your revenue stream is fine it's all good. It's basically how every company in the world works. Of course there's a risk to it but that doesn't mean it's necesarilly bad. These clubs also have an incredible amount of assets to serve as colleteral.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
June 06 2016 19:12 GMT
#7759
Yeah my company works the exact same way, we are a huge tyre company now but our bank balance never says it xD
However if we had a bad 3-6 months we would go pop even with the assests we have (owning the tyre depot land etc) but with Barca and Real if they were to say finish 6th twice in a row you might have the same oh shit moment. Unless football clubs are really out there in another planet ?
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5589 Posts
June 06 2016 19:18 GMT
#7760
Looks like Finland will be schooled by Italy. The tie against Belgium must've been the peak this year...
don't wall off against random
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