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On September 12 2015 23:51 NuclearJudas wrote: What are you even arguing about? The fact that big football leagues are dominated by certain teams? Welcome to the sport.
No, the fallacy that some leagues are less dominated than others.
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La liga and premier are quite similar in winners variation to be honest:
5 last years: 3 both leagues 10 last years 4 both leagues 15 last years 4 both leagues 20 last years 5 Spain 4 England 25 last years 5 Spain 6 England
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i wonder who is a more polarizing head coach, mourinho or belichick.
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On September 12 2015 23:52 GTR wrote: i wonder who is a more polarizing head coach, mourinho or belichick.
Belichik for sure. Like who outside Boston even likes him? Mou has fans everywhere.
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I guess that at least gives me a clue as to the hell Belichik is.
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On September 12 2015 23:53 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2015 23:52 GTR wrote: i wonder who is a more polarizing head coach, mourinho or belichick. Belichik for sure. Like who outside Boston even likes him? Mou has fans everywhere.
But Mo is just an explicit asshat, whereas people hate Belichick because the team as a whole is shady as fuck and he never says anything or smiles.
Oh, and an own goal from H96! BVB back in the lead and Bayern is down 0-1.
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On September 12 2015 23:43 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2015 22:53 Pandemona wrote:On September 12 2015 22:49 themartinez wrote: This PL season is fast turning into a one horse race, so dull att the top of the table. "The best league is the world" my ass. At least the same team doesn't win it though. I mean Chelsea walked it last season, City in full force to do so this season. However the league has a whole has gotten way better, the Crystal Palace's Everton improve every year to give even tougher games to everyone. Yea, it's just the same 4 teams for what, the past 15 years? And Arsenal hasn't even been relevant for the past 10. Actually, only 4 different teams have ever won the Premier League. 2 from London, and 2 from Manchester. 5 teams. Blackburn Rovers won it once.
I don´t really think the criticism is fair, because the BPL is not so amazing because of its great variety of strong teams, it´s because while the big 4 are more consistent than all the others, any team is capable of beating any other team, and does so regularly. Whereas if you look at the Dutch league, it is a complete disgrace if Ajax or PSV loses to a team like De Graafschap or Heracles. It happens occasionally, but there are simply too many games that are just completely uninteresting to watch, either because the expected result is a one-sided stomp, or because the level is going to be pathetically horrible (what neutral viewer actually wants to watch Willem II - Excelsior)?
La Liga has a similar problem: Barcelona and Madrid are expected to win with a 4+ goal difference from about 10 other teams in the league. It doesn´t always happen (lol. Gijon), but it´s expected, which makes it boring.
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On September 12 2015 23:55 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2015 23:53 Rebs wrote:On September 12 2015 23:52 GTR wrote: i wonder who is a more polarizing head coach, mourinho or belichick. Belichik for sure. Like who outside Boston even likes him? Mou has fans everywhere. But Mo is just an explicit asshat, whereas people hate Belichick because the team as a whole is shady as fuck and he never says anything or smiles.
Yeah thats true but I met Belichik my freshman year his son play varsity Lacrosse and he was a total douche to everyone which was really surprising because Im sure Mou is nice guy outside his persona. I know its anecdotal but still.
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Brasileirao is an interesting league. But the general level of football is pretty appalling.
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On September 12 2015 23:59 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2015 23:43 Stratos_speAr wrote:On September 12 2015 22:53 Pandemona wrote:On September 12 2015 22:49 themartinez wrote: This PL season is fast turning into a one horse race, so dull att the top of the table. "The best league is the world" my ass. At least the same team doesn't win it though. I mean Chelsea walked it last season, City in full force to do so this season. However the league has a whole has gotten way better, the Crystal Palace's Everton improve every year to give even tougher games to everyone. Yea, it's just the same 4 teams for what, the past 15 years? And Arsenal hasn't even been relevant for the past 10. Actually, only 4 different teams have ever won the Premier League. 2 from London, and 2 from Manchester. 5 teams. Blackburn Rovers won it once. I don´t really think the criticism is fair, because the BPL is not so amazing because of its great variety of strong teams, it´s because while the big 4 are more consistent than all the others, any team is capable of beating any other team, and does so regularly. Whereas if you look at the Dutch league, it is a complete disgrace if Ajax or PSV loses to a team like De Graafschap or Heracles. It happens occasionally, but there are simply too many games that are just completely uninteresting to watch, either because the expected result is a one-sided stomp, or because the level is going to be pathetically horrible (what neutral viewer actually wants to watch Willem II - Excelsior)? La Liga has a similar problem: Barcelona and Madrid are expected to win with a 4+ goal difference from about 10 other teams in the league. It doesn´t always happen (lol. Gijon), but it´s expected, which makes it boring.
Then watch the Bundesliga! The last two seasons were an anomaly with Bayern's dominance, but normally there is much more competition and that kind of expectation doesn't exist (Bayern is even losing right now!).
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On September 12 2015 23:45 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2015 23:43 Stratos_speAr wrote:On September 12 2015 22:53 Pandemona wrote:On September 12 2015 22:49 themartinez wrote: This PL season is fast turning into a one horse race, so dull att the top of the table. "The best league is the world" my ass. At least the same team doesn't win it though. I mean Chelsea walked it last season, City in full force to do so this season. However the league has a whole has gotten way better, the Crystal Palace's Everton improve every year to give even tougher games to everyone. Yea, it's just the same 4 teams for what, the past 15 years? And Arsenal hasn't even been relevant for the past 10. Actually, only 4 different teams have ever won the Premier League. 2 from London, and 2 from Manchester. Which is less than Spain mind you. Also 3 from Manchester or well.. Lancashire. Show nested quote +On September 12 2015 23:39 Pandemona wrote:![[image loading]](http://puu.sh/k8Go7/43cf94dded.png) Doesn't look cake walks minus Chelsea and Yanited win Nice cherry picking you offered 10 years for the winner variation and 5 to show how close they were. Hows about you go the full 10 eh ? or how about the whole history since the PL started. ehhh ? And yeah that same stupid arguement PL teams so stronk its hard to be that good we just beat each other up. Thats probably true to a degree but only terms of squad depth. Peak performance is roughly the same if not worse. YOU said that it hasn't been close in any of the leagues i just said it wasn't. We were talking the last 6 season. I don't get your point? Stop being anti English every god damn time its getting boring.
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You guys talk about how BPL and LaLiga are boring
have you seen the Scotish league ?
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On September 13 2015 00:03 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2015 23:45 Rebs wrote:On September 12 2015 23:43 Stratos_speAr wrote:On September 12 2015 22:53 Pandemona wrote:On September 12 2015 22:49 themartinez wrote: This PL season is fast turning into a one horse race, so dull att the top of the table. "The best league is the world" my ass. At least the same team doesn't win it though. I mean Chelsea walked it last season, City in full force to do so this season. However the league has a whole has gotten way better, the Crystal Palace's Everton improve every year to give even tougher games to everyone. Yea, it's just the same 4 teams for what, the past 15 years? And Arsenal hasn't even been relevant for the past 10. Actually, only 4 different teams have ever won the Premier League. 2 from London, and 2 from Manchester. Which is less than Spain mind you. Also 3 from Manchester or well.. Lancashire. On September 12 2015 23:39 Pandemona wrote:![[image loading]](http://puu.sh/k8Go7/43cf94dded.png) Doesn't look cake walks minus Chelsea and Yanited win Nice cherry picking you offered 10 years for the winner variation and 5 to show how close they were. Hows about you go the full 10 eh ? or how about the whole history since the PL started. ehhh ? And yeah that same stupid arguement PL teams so stronk its hard to be that good we just beat each other up. Thats probably true to a degree but only terms of squad depth. Peak performance is roughly the same if not worse. YOU said that it hasn't been close in any of the leagues i just said it wasn't. We were talking the last 6 season. I don't get your point? Stop being anti English every god damn time its getting boring.
I don't think the BPL is much different from La Liga at all; I think the main difference is that a lot of people have the perception that the BPL is more arrogant because of it's incredibly wide reach and the ridiculous amount of money it commands, so people like to try to tear it down when it becomes boring (people like to hate on the top dog), whereas we just expect this kind of stuff from La Liga.
Bayern equalizes with Augsburg.
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I said La Liga was the only other league probably (out of the top ones) with more than 1 different winner in the last x year. Then i get moaned at for saying that like wut xD read what i type!
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LOL so sad for Felipe (Hannover). Gives up TWO penalties and an own goal in one game.
And the cheekiest fucking PK you'll ever see from Aubameyang. 4-2 BVB.
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On September 13 2015 00:12 Stratos_speAr wrote: LOL so sad for Felipe (Hannover). Gives up TWO penalties and an own goal in one game. Thank god he did Sad for him though, otherwise was a decent game by him. Looks like BVB will keep winning <3. Little bit lucky today, they were dominant but lucky that they got the first penalty and hannover didnt.
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On September 13 2015 00:13 BlackCompany wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2015 00:12 Stratos_speAr wrote: LOL so sad for Felipe (Hannover). Gives up TWO penalties and an own goal in one game. Thank god he did  Sad for him though, otherwise was a decent game by him. Looks like BVB will keep winning <3. Little bit lucky today, they were dominant but lucky that they got the first penalty and hannover didnt.
In a long season, a win is a win. 3 points and keep moving. All signs point to at least one trophy this year... :D
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Watford have taken the lead against Swansea. Not sure what to make of that.
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WHAT !? PENALTY FOR BAYERN ? REALLY WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK
HOW THE F IS THAT A PENALTY
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On September 13 2015 00:15 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2015 00:13 BlackCompany wrote:On September 13 2015 00:12 Stratos_speAr wrote: LOL so sad for Felipe (Hannover). Gives up TWO penalties and an own goal in one game. Thank god he did  Sad for him though, otherwise was a decent game by him. Looks like BVB will keep winning <3. Little bit lucky today, they were dominant but lucky that they got the first penalty and hannover didnt. In a long season, a win is a win. 3 points and keep moving. All signs point to at least one trophy this year... :D Hopefully I am just happy to see each game and how they improved from last year. Also Darmstadt and Ingolstadt are over performing so much lol, cant rememmber when i saw the 2 teams coming from 2nd league be placed so high (even though its only playday 4)
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