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warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2397 Posts
July 07 2014 10:40 GMT
#141
They'll leave for Valência as soon as Lim finally takes over the place though.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 07 2014 10:50 GMT
#142
Cadorzo wanted by one of the new boys in premier league too if he wants a better league to go to instead of Turkey

But yeah, it is not fun for Portuguese league HOWEVER, you still musts get some joy watching players like Luiz Ramires etcetc come through and play so well in your leagues.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-07 11:00:19
July 07 2014 10:53 GMT
#143
On July 07 2014 19:40 warding wrote:
They'll leave for Valência as soon as Lim finally takes over the place though.


btw when will you guys start playing with Bernardo Silva on the starting 11 ? :p
i mean it's the only guy that got talent in that team.. lolol
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
July 07 2014 10:55 GMT
#144
On July 07 2014 19:50 Pandemona wrote:
Cadorzo wanted by one of the new boys in premier league too if he wants a better league to go to instead of Turkey

But yeah, it is not fun for Portuguese league HOWEVER, you still musts get some joy watching players like Luiz Ramires etcetc come through and play so well in your leagues.


The fun part of watching Portuguese League is watching some players that will become world stars :p
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2397 Posts
July 07 2014 11:13 GMT
#145
On July 07 2014 19:53 GizmoPT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 19:40 warding wrote:
They'll leave for Valência as soon as Lim finally takes over the place though.


btw when will you guys start playing with Bernardo Silva on the starting 11 ? :p
i mean it's the only guy that got talent in that team.. lolol

You know we went to the finals of the Youth Champions League right? Let's see how you do next year.

I do hope Benfica starts using more youth players, for the sake of the Portuguese national team.
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
July 07 2014 11:28 GMT
#146
On July 07 2014 20:13 warding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 19:53 GizmoPT wrote:
On July 07 2014 19:40 warding wrote:
They'll leave for Valência as soon as Lim finally takes over the place though.


btw when will you guys start playing with Bernardo Silva on the starting 11 ? :p
i mean it's the only guy that got talent in that team.. lolol

You know we went to the finals of the Youth Champions League right? Let's see how you do next year.

I do hope Benfica starts using more youth players, for the sake of the Portuguese national team.


Ye well doesnt matter how good they do in the Youth teams if they just end up never playing in the Main Squad and ruining their careers :p And don't worry about the future of the Portuguese national team Sporting got that covered :p
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2397 Posts
July 07 2014 11:48 GMT
#147
Not sure about that. When you look at the IBWM 100 talents for 2014, there is only one Portuguese (William C) vs 3 Austrians, 7 Belgians, 4 Englishmen, 6 Frenchies, 8 Germans, 4 Italians, 4 Dutchies, 4 Serbians, 7 Spaniards, 2 Swedes, 2 Swissies and 2 Turks. I fear the post-C.Ronaldo era. Who do you have coming up in the Academy? Carlos Mané?
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
July 07 2014 12:04 GMT
#148
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GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-07 12:30:19
July 07 2014 12:11 GMT
#149
On July 07 2014 20:48 warding wrote:
Not sure about that. When you look at the IBWM 100 talents for 2014, there is only one Portuguese (William C) vs 3 Austrians, 7 Belgians, 4 Englishmen, 6 Frenchies, 8 Germans, 4 Italians, 4 Dutchies, 4 Serbians, 7 Spaniards, 2 Swedes, 2 Swissies and 2 Turks. I fear the post-C.Ronaldo era. Who do you have coming up in the Academy? Carlos Mané?


coming up how ? to the main squad ? William Carvalho and Mané already in the main coming up we've João Mario, Esgaio, Iuri Medeiros, Tobias Figueiredo... Betinho is nice too but we've too many strikers on the main team.

And other Portuguese players in the main, Wilson Eduardo, Cedric, Adrien, André Martins, Patricio.. and now we got Paulo Oliveira.. so how many do you have ?

I guess we will see who will get a chance during this pre-season.
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-07 13:21:03
July 07 2014 13:19 GMT
#150
"Wilson Eduardo, Cedric, Adrien, André Martins, Patricio" - The ceiling of these guys is not that high. These are not going to make Portugal a contender in any Euros or WCs.

We have Pizzi, Candeias, Nelson Oliveira, Ivan Cavaleiro, Ruben Amorim, André Almeida, Sílvio, João Cancelo, and Bernardo Silva on the roster for next year. Maybe Silvio could be a starter on a good national team and I don't know how the last two will fare. André Almeida started on the national team already, but he's just average. Nothing very exciting.
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
July 07 2014 13:28 GMT
#151
On July 07 2014 22:19 warding wrote:
"Wilson Eduardo, Cedric, Adrien, André Martins, Patricio" - The ceiling of these guys is not that high. These are not going to make Portugal a contender in any Euros or WCs.

We have Pizzi, Candeias, Nelson Oliveira, Ivan Cavaleiro, Ruben Amorim, André Almeida, Sílvio, João Cancelo, and Bernardo Silva on the roster for next year. Maybe Silvio could be a starter on a good national team and I don't know how the last two will fare. André Almeida started on the national team already, but he's just average. Nothing very exciting.


Thanks for remembering me how many Portuguese players Benfica got cause i never see them playing :p
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2397 Posts
July 07 2014 14:19 GMT
#152
On July 07 2014 18:01 ZeroChrome wrote:
It's only worrying because the other top 4 in England have made/are making big moves already and we're just getting started.

Debuchy seems like a guaranteed arrival atm and there's lots of articles claiming it's Arsenal vs Juve for Alexis Sanchez. Assuming Alexis is going to cost 30million (if we can sign him) and Debuchy 10million thats a lot of money already spent by our standards. Especially a lot when we need another 2-3 good players after that.

Apparently Alexis Sanchez agent started following Arsenal FC as well as Oliver Giroud, Santi Cazorla, Mesut Ozil and Mikel Arteta on Twitter.
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-07 14:54:34
July 07 2014 14:52 GMT
#153
So Bayern is buying a left wing / left back for 10 million (Juan Bernat). Why exacly is Luke Shaw 20 million € more expensive ?

Great transfer in my opinion, left defender was the last weak spot in the roster in my opinion.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-07 14:55:59
July 07 2014 14:55 GMT
#154
Because he is 18 and is English why else?
We all know Wayne Rooney is the best player in the world and is worth his £200,000 a week wages. You people are so strange sometimes.
Sterling is being lined up for Real Madrid, he will be around €40-50million already easily.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
July 07 2014 15:09 GMT
#155
Hmm not sure if patriotism or... + Show Spoiler +
just sad english sarcasm. Btw have you seen that meme with Hummels scoring as much as some of the other teams?


The kid looks pretty good, 21, a difficult position will be at least a solid backup with potential.
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
July 07 2014 15:13 GMT
#156
I think it's just that that thread has been over the "BPL prices for English players are crazy" like a million times, everybody knows it, CL rules make those players quite expensive. No, Shaw ain't worth 3 times as much as Bernat, but in BPL, he is.
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-07 15:21:02
July 07 2014 15:18 GMT
#157
Woo someone gets it
You realize with the premier league and English players,they are needed to comply with rules for squad numbers both in premiership and in European competitions.
Players like Shaw who have the potential to be "good enough" to play in Man Utd for years and years is worth his weight in gold due to being a shoe in for the rules.

Also like in Germany their are traditions at certain clubs where Man Utd has always had a strong presence of English players thus makes it even more of a good buy.

Inflation is everywhere and not just in the premier league anyway. If club A wants player B and club A are willing to get him at any cost then Club C who owns Player B they are going to hold out for a price they want.
We are not in the days of £10million buys you a top striker anymore, we are in the days of buy out clauses are a minimum of €30million and head up to the dizzy heights of €60+
Suarez has a €60/70million release clause. A guy sporting just signed from SCOTLAND who is SCOTTISH now has a €60million release clause >.<

Like someone tell me how Luiz is worth €50million. In what planet is a CB who cannot defend better than a Gary Cahill or even Pique for that matter worth that much.
It is because the club have the money and Chelsea weren't interested in selling until they made it an offer you cannot refuse.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-07 15:28:02
July 07 2014 15:26 GMT
#158
Didn't Luiz just get Brazil into the semi-finals with an other-worldly free-kick?

A guy sporting just signed from SCOTLAND who is SCOTTISH now has a €60million release clause >.<

Sporting signs everyone to a €60 million release clause. They signed an unknown Japanese guy with a €60M release clause too. They also have a random 21yo Cameroonian dude at the B team with a €60 million release clause. It's part of the megalomaniac/self-delusional ethos their president wants to institute at the club.

EDIT: You know what's NOT inflated? €25M for Matic, €25M for Markovic and €6M for Garay (wtffffff).
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-07 15:36:32
July 07 2014 15:34 GMT
#159
On July 08 2014 00:26 warding wrote:
Didn't Luiz just get Brazil into the semi-finals with an other-worldly free-kick?

Show nested quote +
A guy sporting just signed from SCOTLAND who is SCOTTISH now has a €60million release clause >.<

Sporting signs everyone to a €60 million release clause. They signed an unknown Japanese guy with a €60M release clause too. They also have a random 21yo Cameroonian dude at the B team with a €60 million release clause. It's part of the megalomaniac/self-delusional ethos their president wants to institute at the club.

EDIT: You know what's NOT inflated? €25M for Matic, €25M for Markovic and €6M for Garay (wtffffff).


lol... in Sporting we give 60 Million clause for Attackers and 40 million for the others.. doesnt mean they are worth that.. its just to keep them safe from being stolen like Markovic for 25.... lol it has nothing to do with megalomaniac/self-delusional... in the lattest years Sporting was simply being robbed cause of bad Presidents.. now we want to keep it safe..
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 07 2014 15:35 GMT
#160
Haha, the Markovic one is Benfica fault though, they put that release clause in as i read today that is the release clause €25 million for him.
The rest im not sure about xD

And oo yeah i saw their signings of the Japanese one and the guy from Istanbul B or something haha.

He did, but did you see Luiz's freekicks for Chelsea this season? He must of had around 30 in the same or CLOSER area than the one he scored yesterday and put it into Row Z of the stadium EVERY time. He couldn't hit the target all season with freekicks and shots, then he finally did one for Brazil
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