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On October 14 2014 02:36 UdderChaos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 01:40 Rebs wrote:
I didnt say the teams were scared of Ferguson, he cant kick the football into the goal.
But teams did bend over, you can go over so many of the "late" goals and be like, what the fuck.... the same shit that didnt work for 80 minutes is now producing goals :S :S.
The same "Antonio Valencia kick the ball past defender run to the byline and cutback that didnt work for 80 minutes would start producing goals." Nothing much changed except the psychology of the opponent and the added belief that United would gain (sure there is fatigue and all that)
But the belief is fostered by the manager, the players have to do it ofcourse. So I dont know why you keep going to that. Im not pinning it all on Fergie either so I dont get why you keep going to that. It was meant to be light hearted no need to be so defensive about it.
Maybe i came off too defensive sorry. Im just a bit fed up of people using the negative conatation that teams bent over for SAF teams, as if trying to take away from his achieivements. Seems like a lazy narrative instead of saying that he tatically played in an athletic style that wore teams down through constant pressure, counter attacking and clinical finishing (all of which can be coached) and also the leadership style that instilled a mentaility in the team to never let off pressure. Basically the wording comes across like your attributing anything but skill to SAF achievements. You could acuse me of being pedantic but its the language everyone seems to use these days when talking about him.
I don't know any sane person who ever said that SAF was not skillful...
What forums are you frequenting? o.O
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Iceland playing with semi-deflated balls. Cillessen just showed ref he can easily dent it 2 inches with one hand, but the ref doesn't care.
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On October 14 2014 04:01 aseq wrote:
Iceland playing with semi-deflated balls. Cillessen just showed ref he can easily dent it 2 inches with one hand, but the ref doesn't care.
same ball for both teams 2-0 :p
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Looks like Netherlands and Turkey going to fight for 5th and 6th place in group.
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Hiddink has been pretty terrible as a manager these past few years and so far he's doing nothing right.
Martens Indi and Lens the by far worst players on the pitch against Kazachstan and he leaves them in the starting squad. It's mistake town with those 2. Soft penalty against and a goal from a corner. Not very lucky but oh well, deserved nonetheless.
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Would be so crazy if iceland ended up with 9 points. But yeah, Tottenham really must be biting their nails after selling Gylfi. Also must say, even though this game might not represent it, fun to watch Iceland play these days, not the old 10 man behind the ball kick and run football we've always played.
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On October 14 2014 04:31 Mensol wrote:
Looks like Netherlands and Turkey going to fight for 5th and 6th place in group.
Turkey should appoint Fatih Terim as a manager. He knows how to raise his players moral. He is a motivation master!
Oh wait...
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so, Pellè plays for Italy now? some season for him. As for Sigurdsson, hmm 
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Happy for Iceland, but sad becouse of Netherlands.
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On October 14 2014 05:58 hitthat wrote:
Happy for Iceland, but sad becouse of Netherlands.
The Dutch will be allright,, probablly.
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The qualification for the Euro Cup is much more interesting so far than expected lol.
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Yeah England 9 from 9 who would of thought.
Big surprise these last two match days for me was Norway getting 6 points. I guess Slovakia (aka Hamsik fc) on top of this have shown good results.
I'll post some league tables actually :3
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On October 14 2014 16:47 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah England 9 from 9 who would of thought.
Big surprise these last two match days for me was Norway getting 6 points. I guess Slovakia (aka Hamsik fc) on top of this have shown good results.
I'll post some league tables actually :3
Yo dude I had England as WC-champions in my bracket prediction. I never stopped believing.
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On October 14 2014 16:55 smr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 16:47 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah England 9 from 9 who would of thought.
Big surprise these last two match days for me was Norway getting 6 points. I guess Slovakia (aka Hamsik fc) on top of this have shown good results.
I'll post some league tables actually :3 Yo dude I had England as WC-champions in my bracket prediction. I never stopped believing.
Same brah, looks like we were just 2 years to early. Euro 2016 going be ez money :3
Be like Chinese Dotie teams, ez money :3
omg Iceland are 8 goals for and 0 conceded holy balls xD
Croatia 9 goals for 0 conceded xD
No worries, when Switzerland play and i put up England group you will see some sick qualifying record :3
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On October 14 2014 07:48 Greg_J wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 05:58 hitthat wrote:
Happy for Iceland, but sad becouse of Netherlands. The Dutch will be allright,, probablly.
With Hiddink? Not sure.
On October 14 2014 04:34 Twisted wrote:
Hiddink has been pretty terrible as a manager these past few years and so far he's doing nothing right.
Martens Indi and Lens the by far worst players on the pitch against Kazachstan and he leaves them in the starting squad. It's mistake town with those 2. Soft penalty against and a goal from a corner. Not very lucky but oh well, deserved nonetheless.
Yeah woeful decision by Hiddink keeping those two players on, which effectively made Blind useless with those two players aorund him. I also think Hiddink got his tactics wrong too. Playing both Afellay and Sneijder didn't work, de Jong and de Vrij were struggling to get the ball into the midfield and all our semi-decent attacks came from longballs. Either play Pieters leftback and shove Blind into midfield(best option) or use Clasie(second best option), bench either Afellay or Sneijder.
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I still think that international football has wasted 2 of the last 5 weekends.
Maybe when Serbia starts to actually win my mind will change
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On October 14 2014 17:38 Ysellian wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 07:48 Greg_J wrote:On October 14 2014 05:58 hitthat wrote:
Happy for Iceland, but sad becouse of Netherlands. The Dutch will be allright,, probablly. With Hiddink? Not sure. Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 04:34 Twisted wrote:
Hiddink has been pretty terrible as a manager these past few years and so far he's doing nothing right.
Martens Indi and Lens the by far worst players on the pitch against Kazachstan and he leaves them in the starting squad. It's mistake town with those 2. Soft penalty against and a goal from a corner. Not very lucky but oh well, deserved nonetheless. Yeah woeful decision by Hiddink keeping those two players on, which effectively made Blind useless with those two players aorund him. I also think Hiddink got his tactics wrong too. Playing both Afellay and Sneijder didn't work, de Jong and de Vrij were struggling to get the ball into the midfield and all our semi-decent attacks came from longballs. Either play Pieters leftback and shove Blind into midfield(best option) or use Clasie(second best option), bench either Afellay or Sneijder.
Yeah agree. And then just move Affelay to left flank (when Depay is injured/absent). He's fast, capable of producing a decent cross and defeating his man one on one.
I think we'll be a lot better with Strootman, Vlaar and Depay back as well. At least, I hope so 
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