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Maluk
Profile Joined August 2011
France987 Posts
October 24 2014 14:25 GMT
#2981
My gym doesn't allow barefoot lifting so the old school deadlift without shoes doesn't work for me.

I guess I could give the Adidas Powerlifts a try but it seems to me like it'd be a tradeoff more than a net gain so I'm not even sure about that. Squats would probably feel better but since I'm not used to deadlifting with elevated heels I imagine that they would become harder and wouldn't feel as good as they currently do (compared with my current shoes). Maybe I can try to go to an Adidas store and see/touch the shoes for myself to get a better idea of dat oly feel.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
October 24 2014 14:31 GMT
#2982
I have romaloes II for everything except deadlifts; socks or ballerina shoes (for competitions, socks are not allowed) :D

If you have been lifting for over 6 months and plan and it seems u will keep doing it, just get the good stuff. The powerlifts sole is not that solid and will start to give within a year of heavy squatting.
Crushinator
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands2138 Posts
October 24 2014 14:37 GMT
#2983
Thing is, all other shoes are manufactured to facilitate walking, and not lifting heavy shit. Once you try walking any distance in oly shoes you will realize that it sucks for walking, because its made for lifitng. So while the elevated heel is not the best for deadlifts, the shoe will still have all of the other things that make it good for lifting heavy shit, which all help you deadlift.

Your other supposedly flat soled gym shoes meanwhile have many things that make them good for walking, but those things make them bad for lifting. Even the flattest normal gym shoes will have a slight bouncy curve thing in the sole, and they won't be as inflexible as oly shoes. Because an inflexible shoe with a flat sole would be uncomfortable for walking, which lifting shoes are.

Once you have deciphered this gibberish I'm sure you will make a wise decision. (In the end its just shoes though)
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
October 24 2014 18:22 GMT
#2984
The power perfect's are worth every penny, squatting will 100% Billy Mays guaranteed feel better and deadlifts will probably do too. If you are a serious lifter there is no reason to be without good oly lifting shoes. P.S. They are really good for erging as well, in case you ever happen to become a rower
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Maluk
Profile Joined August 2011
France987 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-24 18:33:37
October 24 2014 18:22 GMT
#2985
I have to say that I am convinced by what you said, GoTuNk and Crushinator. I guess I need these weightlifting shoes after all. It seems like France doesn't give a shit about weightlifting shoes though, I could only find very few while searching on French sportswear websites, in fact I only found two : Adidas's "Powerlift" and "AdiPower".

I even went to several stores (things like Adidas, Nike, but also specialized French sports stores), every time I asked if I could find "weightlifting shoes" the people who worked there didn't even know what I was talking about and the stores didn't actually sell any. Even the Adidas stores don't sell Powerlifts/Adipowers (I would have to buy them online). That's part of the reason why I gave up on buying weightlifting shoes for a while.

So I guess I'll have to go with Adidas if I buy weightlifting shoes. And given that "Adipowers" cost 200 euros I think that the "Powerlift" model should be enough for a first try.

Edit : I can get Power Perfect shoes from Amazon too.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
October 24 2014 18:49 GMT
#2986
There are three adidas models, from not that expensive to that expensive:

Powerlift -> Power Perfect -> adipower

I have been lifting with Power Perfect 2s for 2 months now and the difference is huge. I noticed when I tried squatting in regular gym shoes this week and felt super unstable and awkward.

I also need to find a solution to the deadlift since I know I am putting people off by lifting in socks. Ballerina slippers sound like a good idea.
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-24 19:18:22
October 24 2014 19:16 GMT
#2987
what do u mean putting people off? honestly i thought dling in socks was default. are your socks that bad??

btw http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/469839-incontrol-itmejp-djwheat-charity-event-live-now

i tried squatting barefoot today and it seemed attainable.
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GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-25 00:15:11
October 25 2014 00:13 GMT
#2988
I don't get why would you possibly care what other people do or think in the gym. Unless they currently lift more than you, and you plan on passing them, obviously.

BP: 137.5x2x2, 147.5x2x2 (PR), 157.5x1 (fatigued PR :d)
SQ: 172.5x3x10 (PR)

Felt like a beast today.

I was having cramps almost in every training session, started taking "efervescent calcium magnate" and it they seem to be gone and I feel a lot better.

(Not sure about translation: 250mg of calium, 100mg of magnessium, 100mg of vit c lol)
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
October 25 2014 01:38 GMT
#2989
You could try taking a tbsp of baking soda an hour before you workout.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
October 25 2014 02:37 GMT
#2990
I'd recommend just being more hydrated (with salts and all that jizz) instead of trying out baking soda tbh
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
October 25 2014 04:15 GMT
#2991
Can't swallow baking soda without water. Baking soda is a salt.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
October 25 2014 11:36 GMT
#2992
It's sodium bicarb, which is quite considerably harder to dose without side-effects than lets say table salt.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-25 13:57:45
October 25 2014 13:56 GMT
#2993
My wife and I just signed up for a hot yoga class on vacation. Hope the mobility pays off here lol
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
October 25 2014 15:02 GMT
#2994
Why hot yoga?

And on the topic of salt and hydration. How can I know if I need more or less salt. Is it best just to take x-amount for every hour of sweating?
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
October 25 2014 15:41 GMT
#2995
Generally you are quite well hydrated, lightly colored urine and no symptoms per se.

By drinking plenty and eating a diet that isn't monotonous you can avoid most of the problems. Only when you are training very hard and / or sweating excessively you need to take it into account.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
October 25 2014 16:34 GMT
#2996
Or just a beef jerky stick before training ;D
Yargh
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 25 2014 16:44 GMT
#2997
On October 26 2014 00:02 Garbels wrote:
Why hot yoga?

And on the topic of salt and hydration. How can I know if I need more or less salt. Is it best just to take x-amount for every hour of sweating?

That's what the studio near where we are staying offered
There's probably benefits for loosening up muscles and focusing. It was a pretty good experience but probably not something I would pay that kinda money for. Schooled all the guys in the class. What up crow pose.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-25 18:08:41
October 25 2014 18:06 GMT
#2998
On October 26 2014 00:41 sJarl wrote:
Generally you are quite well hydrated, lightly colored urine and no symptoms per se.

By drinking plenty and eating a diet that isn't monotonous you can avoid most of the problems. Only when you are training very hard and / or sweating excessively you need to take it into account.


Yeah it's not that I don't drink a lot of water, but I do train harder than pretty much everyone and summer is starting here. Not sure about foods that have magnessium? I def feel a lot fresher.

DL: 212.5kgx3x5 (PR)
OHP 55kgx10x3 (PR)
BB Rows 60kgx12x2

I don't even feel fatigue on my back anymore, but legs start to die on me. Last 2-3 weeks before the meet I think I'll remove the oly lifting day to get a day between heavy squats and deadlifts.

Funny squats fatigue my back and deadlifts my legs :p. Deadlifts are beltless lol.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-25 18:07:43
October 25 2014 18:07 GMT
#2999
sorry double post
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-25 18:24:56
October 25 2014 18:24 GMT
#3000
Yeah if it is working no need to change it

gj on those pr's! Keep it um man.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
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