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WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 09:48:51
November 16 2013 09:45 GMT
#161
Our defense is ravaged too :s Koscielny red card, Varane injured, Sakho doesn't even play 50% of Liverpool's games and we have to put Abidal that cannot be playing at 100% after an organ transplant (even if he says he's fine, it's just not possible..).

Of course everything's possible, an early goal, and then we just need one to reach the overtime. But Ukraine only needs to score 1 to force us to score 4 to qualify! I'd say there is 10% chance we qualify Tuesday. I hope we don't x)
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
November 16 2013 10:54 GMT
#162
For those with football cravings all during the day, Holland vs Japan friendly is starting at 13:15 today.
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PixelNite
Profile Joined August 2011
France1008 Posts
November 16 2013 12:25 GMT
#163
Yeah Willy I agree with the "talent" part. Benzema said in his postmatch interview that "talent didn't make a difference": exactly what's wrong with French National Team. Not only they think talent would make a difference in a World Cup playoffs; they also believe most of the team is talented when it's not the case. We are lacking a lot of top players in key areas (10, 9, 2 & 3 for example) or those players are inconsistent.

I also believe Deschamps made a tactical mistake. I didn't watch any of the Ukrainian games before but I assume they played that counter attacking style, with an important physical impact and fouls/contacts on key players before. Playing Nasri as a 10 was a bad idea, maybe 3 midfielders would have allow Pogba or Matuidi to press higher. Sucks that the man for this job, Schneiderlin, is an unknown for Deschamps.

If there is one thing Deschamps will be good at, is motivating players. I also hope the Stadium won't boo them Tuesday, to let the miracle happen!
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 13:00:29
November 16 2013 12:53 GMT
#164
France missing an in game leader like Zidane. They have fantastic players in every position.

France should play full offensive at home with two strikers (benzema&giroud).
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 14:46:15
November 16 2013 14:41 GMT
#165
Fantastic? Our "best team" would be

Lloris = playing in Tottenham, not top tier team (in Europe), he's very good though
Evra = getting old and he's actually really terrible (at least with France)
Koscielny = talented but young
Varane = talented but young and maybe 2 or 3 CL games in his career
Debuchy = Newcastle, average team, he's good but that's it

So already you can see our defense is "above average" and definitely not top 10 World.

Matuidi = good but no technical skills, still not that experienced in CL/national team games
Pogba = talented but young, very few CL games and even less France games
Cabaye = Newcastle, another "good but that's it"
or Nasri = Manchester City but he's not even in the top 10 best players of his team AND has always been bad with France

Our midfield is sooooo far from the level of Germany's/Spain's/Italy's midfield both in intelligence and in technical skills. Good for fighting and playing counter-attack though.

Ribery = top 10 world in his position, maybe top 3 for some people (not me) BUT has never been really good with France since 2006. The only "fantastic" player we might have.
Benzema = good 9, but cannot compare to the likes of Ibra, Cavani, Falcao, Van Persie, Rooney, ... AND he has never been good with France AND he doesn't want to play on a wing, so we cannot even put him with Giroud
Giroud = good 9 but definitely not top tier

This is what our best team could look like. On paper it's a 7-10th spot on the FIFA ranking, but in reality, most of them suck when they play with the blue shirt, so our 20th-ish ranking is deserved. If they played at their full potential, they would be annoying to play against and we could beat almost anyone on a good day, with courage, impact and a counter-attacking style. With the right players we could even possibly develop some good football. But there is a huuuuuge gap between their potential and what they are showing... No passion, ego, stupidity... x)
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2397 Posts
November 16 2013 15:10 GMT
#166
If you scrutinize the Ukraine team the way you're doing the French team though, you'd agree that France has more talent. France might not be a top 5 team right now, but at this point they're only asked to be better than the Ukraine.
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 15:22:35
November 16 2013 15:21 GMT
#167
Yeah but if putting 11 good players on the pitch was enough to win trophies, Manchester City or Real Madrid would have won a lot more CLs by now
My point was also to clarify some things to people that don't follow France every day like we do. France don't have "fantastic players on every position" and France isn't a "big gun" anymore, period.

France has ON PAPER a bit more talent than the Ukraine team, but in reality, they are just inferior or at least about the same level as Ukraine. Ukraine can do short passes, long passes, their players are smart. France cannot do that :s We don't have smart players except for Cabaye, but he's not even playing and he's no Xavi... Right now I don't think France deserve to be called better than Ukraine and they proved it yesterday!
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
November 16 2013 16:33 GMT
#168
NIgeria about to be the first african team to formally qualify. Ethiopia would need 2 away goals in the last 15 minutes to force overtime.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
November 16 2013 16:56 GMT
#169
after the fail qualification of 1993 we won something , maybe something good for the euro 2016
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 16 2013 19:17 GMT
#170
[image loading] Ethiopia vs [image loading] Nigeria

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[image loading] Ethiopia 1-2 [image loading] Nigeria


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[image loading] Ethiopia 0-2 [image loading] Nigeria


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[image loading] Nigeria Are Going to Brazil!
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ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 20:48:15
November 16 2013 20:44 GMT
#171
Senegal only one goal away from beating Ivory Coast with like 15 mins left.

Though that penalty kick was completely illegal, you can't full stop in your run up. Drogba gave it, .
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 21:16:56
November 16 2013 21:02 GMT
#172
KALLLOOUUUU
GG Ivory Coast

On November 17 2013 06:06 Mensol wrote:
YAY DROGBA&YAYA fkn TOURE at WC2014!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And Kalouuuuuu :3
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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
November 16 2013 21:06 GMT
#173
YAY DROGBA&YAYA fkn TOURE at WC2014!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
November 16 2013 21:21 GMT
#174
I'm very happy for Yaya, can't forget his path to stardom started at olympiacos, ♥.
Drogba will make some defenses sweat next year.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 21:24:59
November 16 2013 21:21 GMT
#175

[image loading] Ivory Coast vs [image loading] Senegal

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[image loading] Ivory Coast 3-1 [image loading] Senegal


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[image loading] Senegal 1-1 [image loading] Ivory Coast


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[image loading] Ivory Coast...Are Going to Brazil!
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don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3007 Posts
November 16 2013 22:48 GMT
#176
Watch Ivory Coast drawn into the group of death for the 3rd straight WC.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-17 15:44:21
November 17 2013 15:42 GMT
#177
I just realized, if Algeria defeats Burkina Faso, we will have the same african teams qualifying as in 2010 (minus South Africa, and assuming Ghana and Cameroon don't collapse ofc). And I always thought the african football was unpredictable.
On November 17 2013 07:48 don_kyuhote wrote:
Watch Ivory Coast drawn into the group of death for the 3rd straight WC.

With the benefit of hindsight, I'd argue that the group of Germany, Ghana, Australia and Serbia was the true group of death in 2010.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
November 17 2013 16:14 GMT
#178
Cameroon beat Tunisia 4-1 to win 4-1 on aggregate. Cameroon are going to Rio!
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-17 17:13:29
November 17 2013 17:13 GMT
#179

CAF
Ties to take place over 12/13/15th October & 16/17/19th November

[image loading] Ivory Coast vs [image loading] Senegal

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[image loading] Ivory Coast 3-1 [image loading] Senegal


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[image loading] Senegal 1-1 [image loading] Ivory Coast


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[image loading] Ivory Coast Are Going to Brazil!


[image loading] Ethiopia vs [image loading] Nigeria

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[image loading] Ethiopia 1-2 [image loading] Nigeria


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[image loading] Nigeria 2-0 [image loading] Ethiopia


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[image loading] Nigeria Are Going to Brazil!


[image loading] Tunisia vs [image loading] Cameroon

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[image loading] Tunisia 0-0 [image loading] Cameroon


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[image loading] Cameroon 4-1 [image loading] Tunisia


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[image loading] Cameroon Are Going to Brazil!

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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-19 19:06:35
November 19 2013 14:07 GMT
#180

EUROPE PlayOffs Leg 2!
Ties to be played over 15th November & 19th November

pt Portugal vs se Sweden

1st Leg 15 November Kick Off 19:45 GMT (+00:00)
Referee: Nicola Rizzoli (Italy)
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pt Portugal 1-0 se Sweden


2nd Leg 19 November Kick Off 19:45 GMT (+00:00)
Referee: Howard Webb (England)
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se Sweden vs pt Portugal


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TBA


ua Ukraine vs fr France

1st Leg 15 November Kick Off 19:45 GMT (+00:00)
Referee: Cüneyt Çakır (Turkey)
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ua Ukraine 2-0 fr France


2nd Leg 19 November Kick Off 20:00 GMT (+00:00)
Referee: Damir Skomina (Slovenia)
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fr France vs ua Ukraine


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TBA


gr Greece vs ro Romania

1st Leg 15 November Kick Off 19:45 GMT (+00:00)
Referee: Pedro Proença (Portugal)
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gr Greece 3-1 ro Romania


2nd Leg 19 November Kick Off 19:00 GMT (+00:00)
Referee: Milorad Mažić (Serbia)
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ro Romania vs gr Greece


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TBA


is Iceland vs hr Croatia

1st Leg 15 November Kick Off 17:00 GMT (+00:00)
Referee: Alberto Undiano Mallenco (Spain)
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is Iceland 0-0 hr Croatia



2nd Leg 19 November Kick Off 19:15 GMT (+00:00)
Referee: Björn Kuipers (Netherlands)
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hr Croatia vs is Iceland vs



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TBA


Africa PlayOffs Leg 2!

[image loading] Ghana vs [image loading] Egypt

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[image loading] Ghana 6-1 [image loading] Egypt


2nd Leg 19 November Kick Off 16:00 GMT (+00:00)
Referee: Noumandiez Doué (Côte d'Ivoire)
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[image loading] Egypt 2-1 [image loading] Ghana


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[image loading] Ghana Are Going to Brazil!


[image loading] Burkina Faso vs [image loading] Algeria

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[image loading] Burkina Faso 3-2 [image loading] Algeria


2nd Leg 19 November Kick Off 18:15 GMT (+00:00)
Referee:Badara Diatta (Senegal)
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[image loading] Algeria vs [image loading]Burkina Faso


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TBA...Are Going to Brazil!

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