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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-27 20:15:41
April 27 2014 20:07 GMT
#15921
On April 28 2014 05:02 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2014 04:57 Mensol wrote:
On April 28 2014 04:39 Steveling wrote:
On April 28 2014 04:32 Mensol wrote:
Mourinho's team plays defensively only when they need to.


Yeah rm needed to play that disgusting defensive games, they have a bad team, cristiano who?
Better let Pepe gun down the attackers and all is well.
I guess mou is a genius after all.

You have a good team doesnt mean that you have to play attacking style all the time. If you want to be the best team in the world, both your defence and attack have to be strong.

btw Pepe&David Luiz to cdm is totally genius. Especially for D.Luiz because his technique is one of the best.

Isn't Ancelotti proving that Real Madrid can play incredibly well offensively and how is Pepe to cdm genius in any way?

didnt Ancelotti played defensive/counter against Bayern Munih?

Well Pepe is a butcher, he prevent opponent to play straight.

Barca losing 2-0 against Villarreal lolololol.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 27 2014 20:22 GMT
#15922
On April 28 2014 05:07 Mensol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2014 05:02 RvB wrote:
On April 28 2014 04:57 Mensol wrote:
On April 28 2014 04:39 Steveling wrote:
On April 28 2014 04:32 Mensol wrote:
Mourinho's team plays defensively only when they need to.


Yeah rm needed to play that disgusting defensive games, they have a bad team, cristiano who?
Better let Pepe gun down the attackers and all is well.
I guess mou is a genius after all.

You have a good team doesnt mean that you have to play attacking style all the time. If you want to be the best team in the world, both your defence and attack have to be strong.

btw Pepe&David Luiz to cdm is totally genius. Especially for D.Luiz because his technique is one of the best.

Isn't Ancelotti proving that Real Madrid can play incredibly well offensively and how is Pepe to cdm genius in any way?

didnt Ancelotti played defensive/counter against Bayern Munih?

Well Pepe is a butcher, he prevent opponent to play straight.

Barca losing 2-0 against Villarreal lolololol.


There's like 0 things in common between mou's rm and ancelotti's.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
April 27 2014 20:24 GMT
#15923
[image loading]

I don't mind Chelsea playing defensive football. I just wish that Mourinho wouldn't throw a fit and criticize other teams for doing the same against him (ie West Ham).
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
BeaTeR
Profile Joined March 2003
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
April 27 2014 20:34 GMT
#15924
lol villareal equalizes the score with two owngoals
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
April 27 2014 20:43 GMT
#15925
#matchfixing
This is our town, scrub
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
April 27 2014 21:04 GMT
#15926
On April 28 2014 05:43 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
#matchfixing

shhhh there is no matchfixing here

Just like there is none in Italy ...
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
April 27 2014 21:06 GMT
#15927
so barcelona actually won 3:2 good for them
This is our town, scrub
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 27 2014 21:08 GMT
#15928
On April 28 2014 06:04 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2014 05:43 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
#matchfixing

shhhh there is no matchfixing here

Just like there is none in Italy ...


You are kinda naive if you think that not every league in the world is not match fixed.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 27 2014 21:08 GMT
#15929
In all sports too.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
April 27 2014 21:11 GMT
#15930
i think you misread what he was trying to say
This is our town, scrub
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 27 2014 21:16 GMT
#15931
On April 28 2014 06:11 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
i think you misread what he was trying to say


Well I had to make it clear, xP.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2089 Posts
April 27 2014 22:08 GMT
#15932
Props to Alves for reaction like this to racism in spanish football
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=814438691901296&set=vb.161648517180320&type=2&theater
~~Yo man ! MBCGame HERO Fighting !! Holy check !
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
April 27 2014 22:11 GMT
#15933
LOL
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
April 27 2014 22:37 GMT
#15934


no comment :O
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-27 23:01:39
April 27 2014 22:40 GMT
#15935
On April 28 2014 01:45 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2014 01:40 Rebs wrote:
On April 28 2014 00:58 WillyWanker wrote:
On April 28 2014 00:37 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah Neville were saying and i think i mentioned it once or twice, Liverpool have Plan A....and thats it. They needed a different approach to when a team can defend in front of them. Oh well.
Mourinho also laying into Jamie Redknapp in his after match report ^_^
Those two really don't like eachother

This whole "plan A" stuff is getting annoying. At least they have a plan A...


Yea its such a load of bullshit. Especially since no one really knows what the fuck they mean by Plan A and Plan B or they come up with some BS tactical adjustment that makes sense in hindsight.

At the end of the day if a team parks the bus there is no Plan B, hindsight is 20 20 and when stuff doesnt work the armchair experts come out with the same shit, "dont know how to break teams down that defend with 10"

They know exactly how to do it the same way they do it every other week. Its just really really hard. If you give me a 200 million something squad i can make them park the Bus to, watch some film, setup matchups, pickout player tedencies,
and then spend the week playing upto the game playing 10s in your half to get comfortable with it.

Its the same thing Sam Allardyce does and Mourinho does it no differently, he just has better players to do it with

Teams play with an identity, Mourinho teams have none, that is why Madrid hated him. That is also why his teams lose to shittier teams because they dont have an identity but can deflect teams that refuse to throw theirs away.

Thats not to say he cant give teams an identity, he just chooses not to because that gets in the way of him playing the percentages of what he needs to do to win. And when it comes to big games, he sure can win, and winning is nice and all but my God for the neutral its such a drag and it sucks for football in general


Its the same reason shit players like Lleyton Hewitt who have 0 weapons would win Grandslams a decade back, simple counter punching + Show Spoiler +
(thank God tennis doesnt reward that shit anymore)


But it works so thats that. But please enough with this BS about plan B's. As much as I would have liked for Liverpool to play for the draw I wouldve have also lost a fair bit of respect for them.

Mourinho's teams have a clear identity : Do whatever you need to win.


No, its do whatever to not lose, and see where you go from there..

And I very specifically said that for the neutral its a drag, for football in general its a drag, I personally dont mind it since atleast one team is always out to win the game.

Its when both teams have the same idea (i.e Atleti v Chelsea) that you realise how bad it is for football if everyone played not to lose

You can throw scorelines all you want but if switching to Big Sam tactics because you dont have belief in your players is what is a "winning" strategy I am afraid thats very off. I repeat its a way to not lose, its smash and grab. Ofcourse if I support the team I dont care how they win, but I dont support any of these teams and I want to enjoy the game, and I am not alone in that sentiment. Does it matter to specific sets of fans ? Probably not. But it matters to football.

+ Show Spoiler +
Infact as that smug ass who passes one liners pointed out Liverpool fans dont care about my respect and I dont want them to. Which is why i pointed out they were naive and shouldve just played Mou's game. But obviously Sharkie as usual just trolling with his "im horny for Mou" one liners. Stop being an ass dude, to me and other people. I know you get your panties wet whenever Mourinhos so much as breathes but atleast contribute something.


Its a glorified Catennacio and we all know how successful that was so Im not saying you cant win that way but Catenaccio does nothing for football, it doesnt attract anyone to football, for the neutral it was a load of shit.

I mean its so fucking stupid to say ohh look Mourinho so clever, he has plan B's

I mean come the fuck on, theres 2 ways to play, attack or defend. If you defend then what other fucking plan is your opponent going to have ? Heres the answer, they attack. Does that translate to goal threats? Not all the time because the whole point of the game is one team ensuring they dont have any.

Then you get Atleti Chelsea and both teams play Defend.. o noes what plan do we use now ?

Tactical adjustments within a style of play is one thing. But not having one at all and operating your team through "shots in the arm" is why I call him a "5 hour energy manager" just like Van Gaal but more successful and with less penchant for flair in his teams.



Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
April 27 2014 22:42 GMT
#15936
On April 28 2014 07:08 Copymizer wrote:
Props to Alves for reaction like this to racism in spanish football
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=814438691901296&set=vb.161648517180320&type=2&theater


Hahaha that's hilarious.

Sad to hear about Liverpool. Completely missed the match unfortunately but had to watch Ajax win their fourth title in a row today!
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18420 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-27 23:50:34
April 27 2014 23:12 GMT
#15937
On April 28 2014 07:40 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2014 01:45 Otolia wrote:
On April 28 2014 01:40 Rebs wrote:
On April 28 2014 00:58 WillyWanker wrote:
On April 28 2014 00:37 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah Neville were saying and i think i mentioned it once or twice, Liverpool have Plan A....and thats it. They needed a different approach to when a team can defend in front of them. Oh well.
Mourinho also laying into Jamie Redknapp in his after match report ^_^
Those two really don't like eachother

This whole "plan A" stuff is getting annoying. At least they have a plan A...


Yea its such a load of bullshit. Especially since no one really knows what the fuck they mean by Plan A and Plan B or they come up with some BS tactical adjustment that makes sense in hindsight.

At the end of the day if a team parks the bus there is no Plan B, hindsight is 20 20 and when stuff doesnt work the armchair experts come out with the same shit, "dont know how to break teams down that defend with 10"

They know exactly how to do it the same way they do it every other week. Its just really really hard. If you give me a 200 million something squad i can make them park the Bus to, watch some film, setup matchups, pickout player tedencies,
and then spend the week playing upto the game playing 10s in your half to get comfortable with it.

Its the same thing Sam Allardyce does and Mourinho does it no differently, he just has better players to do it with

Teams play with an identity, Mourinho teams have none, that is why Madrid hated him. That is also why his teams lose to shittier teams because they dont have an identity but can deflect teams that refuse to throw theirs away.

Thats not to say he cant give teams an identity, he just chooses not to because that gets in the way of him playing the percentages of what he needs to do to win. And when it comes to big games, he sure can win, and winning is nice and all but my God for the neutral its such a drag and it sucks for football in general


Its the same reason shit players like Lleyton Hewitt who have 0 weapons would win Grandslams a decade back, simple counter punching + Show Spoiler +
(thank God tennis doesnt reward that shit anymore)


But it works so thats that. But please enough with this BS about plan B's. As much as I would have liked for Liverpool to play for the draw I wouldve have also lost a fair bit of respect for them.

Mourinho's teams have a clear identity : Do whatever you need to win.


No, its do whatever to not lose, and see where you go from there..

And I very specifically said that for the neutral its a drag, for football in general its a drag, I personally dont mind it since atleast one team is always out to win the game.

Its when both teams have the same idea (i.e Atleti v Chelsea) that you realise how bad it is for football if everyone played not to lose

You can throw scorelines all you want but if switching to Big Sam tactics because you dont have belief in your players is what is a "winning" strategy I am afraid thats very off. I repeat its a way to not lose, its smash and grab. Ofcourse if I support the team I dont care how they win, but I dont support any of these teams and I want to enjoy the game, and I am not alone in that sentiment. Does it matter to specific sets of fans ? Probably not. But it matters to football.

+ Show Spoiler +
Infact as that smug ass who passes one liners pointed out Liverpool fans dont care about my respect and I dont want them to. Which is why i pointed out they were naive and shouldve just played Mou's game. But obviously Sharkie as usual just trolling with his "im horny for Mou" one liners. Stop being an ass dude, to me and other people. I know you get your panties wet whenever Mourinhos so much as breathes but atleast contribute something.


Its a glorified Catennacio and we all know how successful that was so Im not saying you cant win that way but Catenaccio does nothing for football, it doesnt attract anyone to football, for the neutral it was a load of shit.

I mean its so fucking stupid to say ohh look Mourinho so clever, he has plan B's

I mean come the fuck on, theres 2 ways to play, attack or defend. If you defend then what other fucking plan is your opponent going to have ? Heres the answer, they attack. Does that translate to goal threats? Not all the time because the whole point of the game is one team ensuring they dont have any.

Then you get Atleti Chelsea and both teams play Defend.. o noes what plan do we use now ?

Tactical adjustments within a style of play is one thing. But not having one at all and operating your team through "shots in the arm" is why I call him a "5 hour energy manager" just like Van Gaal but more successful and with less penchant for flair in his teams.





I am not horny for mourinho nor do I wear panties
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-27 23:43:17
April 27 2014 23:23 GMT
#15938
lol sharkie you made me laugh :d

If Liverpool loses PL this year then i can't see them winning for at least five years. Yanited will be stronger without Moyes next season, it'll be much harder in the next season.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13029 Posts
April 28 2014 00:23 GMT
#15939
I think some are being harsh on Chelsea and I say that as a Liverpool fan. I think he was just trying to keep it close for as long as possible. I think if it was still 0-0 at about 60mins, Mou would have pushed harder for the win.

Chelsea had to win so they would have had to make a push at some stage. Fortunately for Mou, Gerrard gifted him a goal and could then afford to play to his defensive strengths.

It sucks that only one team was attacking but chelseas defence was great.

It's Man C's to lose now. If they beat Everton Ithink tthey're home.
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Kkxtrouble
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil575 Posts
April 28 2014 01:24 GMT
#15940
Although I'm not a particular fan of Mourinho I think people sometimes are unfair to him. For examle, in 2011-2012 season RM scored 121 goal, a league record, that is almost 3,2 goals per game.
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